Vardy & LCFC Charged by the FA - Charges Accepted & Personal Hearing Requested

[clark]

Talk of it being a three match ban. I feel sick.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jamie-vardy-charged-improper-conduct-7782243

[foxes_rule1978]

Moss should get a lifetime ban simple as that he isn't cut out to be a ref especially at this level. Makes me sick knowing he wouldn't have took charge of this game of it wasn't for that stupid UEFA thing

[STUHILL]

Talk of it being a three match ban. I feel sick.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jamie-vardy-charged-improper-conduct-7782243

 

 

Really can't see that happening. It will be the exact same as Costa. 20k fine and extra 1 match added to his original ban. At least he will be fresh for final 2 games but it is such a joke. The ref should not be adding anything extra to a report that already was a disgrace. He is an embarrassment of a referee. Talk of him being taking off other matches as punishment, which I really hope is true. 

[The Doctor]

That reads like they've not understood it at all - it's one match for the sending off, they're then talking about him missing Man Utd (which would be from the extension), then suggesting that a one game extension would include everton. It's like the ones arguing we're not guaranteed champions league because we could finish fourth and have two english european winners.

[Carl the Llama]

Arsenal fan down the pub told me Shearer threatened to pull out of the national team when the FA gave him a ban and they dropped it immediately then suggested Vardy do the same

[Jordan]

Free Jamie Vardy.

[foxes_rule1978]

The question I have is how can the FA take this guys report seriously? based on that game it should be him getting charged and facing a big ban

[TheMightySystem]

Bilic and Carrol having their post match interviews investigated according to the Sun.

[inckley fox]

I don't see how his report can have any credibility. There are too many questions that they have to answer here. If our whole side was guilty of losing control, why wasn't more action taken on the field? If Vardy got a yellow card for cumulative innocuous offences, why isn't this rule applied more consistently across football? Likewise the simulation, or the penalty for shirt-pulling? How come the referee didn't even manage to show consistency on diving, or shirt-pulling in the box over the course of the same half of a single football game? How is it that the FA go out of their way by taking unprecedented measures to ensure refereeing fairness and adequacy in a Spurs game, but we have to deal with the consequences of what the former refs' head called 'the worst refereeing performance of the season'?

 

I'm not sure, when the incompetence is as severe and lamentable as it was on Sunday, that you can expect or demand the highest standards of conduct from players. It's like sending a player off for violence if he rugby tackles an aggressive pitch invader (though I know this has also happened). The circumstances were extraordinary and every ref who has come out to defend him, and there aren't too many, have either ended up listing god knows how many incorrect major decisions he made (Webb, Poll), or simply hopelessly contradicting themselves (Gallagher). And neither am I convinced that the disrepute charge against the side can have much credibility. He didn't send anyone off, I can't even remember more than - if any - one booking. And it was a horribly inconsistent bit of refereeing, so if people were a bit unhappy, well, that happens when you screw them over. If the FA can't see this, but can see the need for better refereeing in Spurs' games, then we're up against it.

 

I know a former PL ref, from the 90s, and he is often saying how the standard is dropping. And he says the biggest problem is that the profession isn't willing to accept its own inadequacies - there are too many refs' dinners, functions, back-slapping dos for that. That's how the likes of Webb and Poll come out to defend him, albeit explicitly detailing why he was so abysmal in the process of doing so.

[STUHILL]

Bilic and Carrol having their post match interviews investigated according to the Sun.

 

I find it offensive you can't criticise a referee especially when the media purposely ask you to comment on the ref's performance. Why should they be immune from criticism. Obviously there is a line and Vardy overstepped it but Bilic especially was fully in his right to suggest the ref had a shocker and was influenced by crowd/earlier bad decisions. Moss deserves to be banned for 3 matches for that performance and it officially announced too! 

[Chrysalis]

The mass media hype up of the incident and the charge who isnt genuinly surprised?

 

We are a little east midlands club, the big money men dont care about our region, its all playing dirty now to get spurs the title.

 

We are going to miss vardy it will hurt, probably easily our most key player, but I think everton and swansea we can win, that leaves us needing one draw from chelsea or man utd.

 

Of course this is assuming no more crazy refereeing.

[Chrysalis]

The whole system is so biased. It actually disgusts me.

If Vardy gets a longer ban for this, then so should Moss for being the shittest ref on earth.

And why can't refs be interviewed after games? Why not? It would help to get an explanation sometimes.

The FA remain a prehistoric, closed shop organization where the England manager gets paid anything up to 6 million a year.

So wrong in this day and age.

I dont remember arsenal been charged for crowding the ref in our game vs them.

 

Has any club ever been charged for players been upset at decisions before?

[SpinneyHillRanger]

Ranieri will prepare the team... Why are people getting worried.

5 points clear 4 to play. Even if we draw Swansea and man utd. We are still a point clear.

We can beat Everton at home and Chelsea away.

I think we will beat Swansea at home. We will be fired up and have a lot of desire.

[Thracian]

The disciplinary panel will study the referee's report. They will see that the ref showed a second yellow card for a dive and the player reacted furiously and aggressively and with very "Industrial" language. Nothing else is relevant. Whether we are 1st, 2nd, 15th or 20th in the league. Vardy lost his cool and if he is lucky, it will only be a two match ban (in total).

There is no conspiracy here. We just need to suck it up and get on with it.

 

 

And let the referee get away with the kind of performance that provoked widespread condemnation from both sets of supporters. Referees...they're more protected than elephants and white tigers.

 

Footballers soon get dropped for a bad performance but referees get away not only appalling or seemingly thoughtless decisions, but decisions that are totally indefensible on account of not even being able to see the incident.

 

Leicester fans, West Ham fans, the players and both managers were critical of Moss - you'd think that would tell the football authorities something given that neither club are known as badly disciplined or as rabid critics of officials. But I doubt it.    

[Guest Col city fan]

Has Shinji San not been banned yet? I've been banned for lots less than this!

[Chrysalis]

Wow you actually hope he breaks his leg? That's sick

 

I would agree  but there is spurs fans celebrating what moss has done, they are happy to win on the behalf of a ref, so why not.  Break your leg kane and upset all the london mob.  Then vardy refuse to play for england they end up using sturridge and rooney

[Thracian]

What if Vardy took legal action against the referee for effectively labelling him a cheat despite the Hammers defender clearly putting a restraining hand on his shoulder from the video evidence I watched.  

I don't suppose it will happen because i'd imagine it's a major no-no within the the game.

But that's no reason for referees to take advantage of their seemingly unchallenged power.

To my mind Vardy should get an unambiguous apology at the hearing rather than an extended ban.    

[EnglishOxide]

[AyewJoking]

putting vardy to one side for a moment, does anyone think huth and morgan will now be scrutinised by officials over the next 4 games looking for the slightest push, shove, shirt pull and award penalties freekicks and whatnot against us?

 

will opposing players try to rough them up, get in their faces trying to force a reaction so the team can be penalised?

 

im not implying everyone is against us, just maybe something we'll have to take into consideration???

[mozartfox]

The problem with Moss's performance was his inconsistent application of the laws of the game in the same

match. This was bound to cause problems and so it did.

LCFC should turn up with a video of the major decisions and non-decisions and ask the FA to comment,

Referees cannot be above the law and surely must be held accountable for their actions in the same way as

Vardy and LCFC are? Vardy was stupid and Moss was incompetent, both need to be punished. Not that this will change the outcome of last Sunday's game, but it may in the future prevent referees making it up as they go along if they choose to treat identical situations in the same game differently.

Unfortunately, the FA will brush Moss's inept performance under the Axminster.

[teblin]

I'm sorry to say, it is right and he should be banned. You can't put your finger in someones face and called them what he did and get away with it. Not just on a football pitch.

 

There are kids that watch these games, and it's not just Vardy many players are constantly in the refs face swearing. It's not the "grappling in the box" that should be cracked down on, its the decent. 

 

You can understand that he was frustrated and the heat of the moment etc.. and he shouldn't have had his 1st yellow etc.. but if you take the swearing and gesturing as its own incident, he has no defence.

[Thracian]

I'm sorry to say, it is right and he should be banned. You can't put your finger in someones face and called them what he did and get away with it. Not just on a football pitch.

 

There are kids that watch these games, and it's not just Vardy many players are constantly in the refs face swearing. It's not the "grappling in the box" that should be cracked down on, its the decent. 

 

You can understand that he was frustrated and the heat of the moment etc.. and he shouldn't have had his 1st yellow etc.. but if you take the swearing and gesturing as its own incident, he has no defence.

 

You can't point a finger towards someone's face but you can label them a cheat in public! 

Since when should anyone be able to effectively rule someone a cheat with sparse and questionable evidence and expect them not to react?. Kids have little  to do with it really - they'll cope and set their own standards if people stop pampering them and sheltering them from reality. 

Exactly what is "decent" and defensible in denying someone a penalty when he's clearly and evidentially being held back and then ruling him a cheat for capitalising on the initial offence? That's not cheating it's showing an opponent they shouldn't get away with fouling him.  

Is punishing the victim rather than the culprit the sort of example an official should set the precious kids for all that it is so often the way these days?.

In fact where was the referee's "example" to anyone in the supposedly required "fair administration of the rules"

He was totally wrong in the Vardy instance but in so many others he punished the relatively innocuous but allowed more blatant offences to go unchecked.

Apply that to a courtroom and the judge might just as well forget the tedium of weighing the evidence and simply spin a coin to decide guilt or otherwise. A great example to kids, that, yet it was apparent from start to finish. There was no consistency whatsoever and the level of offending by both sides went from bad to worse until it was all but farcical to see in the end, particularly in the penalty areas.

At any one instance you could see all sorts of fouls. It's hardly surprising that players react when the referee totally ignores so much that's going on (even when it was clear for him to see) but then picks someone out almost at random. 

[roger54]

Since when should anyone be able to effectively rule someone a cheat with sparse and questionable evidence and expect them not to react. Kids have nothing to do - they'll cope and set their own standards if neo-liberals can't leave off trying to do it for them.

Exactly what is "decent" and defensible in denying someone a penalty when he's clearly and evidentially being held back and then ruling him a cheat for capitalising on the initial offence?

Is that the example to set for your precious kids. Ignore one offence but punish another far more questionable one?

In fact where was the referee's "example" to anyone in the supposedly required "fair administration of the rules"

He was totally wrong in the Vardy instance but in so many others he punished the relatively innocuous but allowed more blatant offences to go unchecked.

Apply that to a courtroom and the judge might just as well forget the tedium of weighing the evidence and simply spin a coin to decide guilt or otherwise. A great example to kids, that, yet it was apparent from start to finish. There was no consistency whatsoever and the level of offending by both sides went from bad to worse until it was all but farcical to see in the end, particularly in the penalty areas.

At any one instance you could see all sorts of fouls. It's hardly surprising that players react when the referee totally ignores so much that's going on (even when it was clear for him to see) but then picks someone out almost at random. 

 

Yep Vardy was fouled.   A pull back is a foul anywhere else on the pitch so why not in the penalty area.  He bottled it completely.   Completely and utterly incompetent.  

 

I hope he is a better Head Teacher than a referee

[ARM1968]

Head Teacher? OMG. That explains a lot

[teblin]

You can't point a finger towards someone's face but you can label them a cheat in public! 

Since when should anyone be able to effectively rule someone a cheat with sparse and questionable evidence and expect them not to react?. Kids have little  to do with it really - they'll cope and set their own standards if people stop pampering them and sheltering them from reality. 

Exactly what is "decent" and defensible in denying someone a penalty when he's clearly and evidentially being held back and then ruling him a cheat for capitalising on the initial offence? That's not cheating it's showing an opponent they shouldn't get away with fouling him.  

Is punishing the victim rather than the culprit the sort of example an official should set the precious kids for all that it is so often the way these days?.

In fact where was the referee's "example" to anyone in the supposedly required "fair administration of the rules"

He was totally wrong in the Vardy instance but in so many others he punished the relatively innocuous but allowed more blatant offences to go unchecked.

Apply that to a courtroom and the judge might just as well forget the tedium of weighing the evidence and simply spin a coin to decide guilt or otherwise. A great example to kids, that, yet it was apparent from start to finish. There was no consistency whatsoever and the level of offending by both sides went from bad to worse until it was all but farcical to see in the end, particularly in the penalty areas.

At any one instance you could see all sorts of fouls. It's hardly surprising that players react when the referee totally ignores so much that's going on (even when it was clear for him to see) but then picks someone out almost at random. 

 

I know the decision was bad, but your can't do what Vardy did. I don't want him suspended but you just can't do it. Two wrongs do not make a right.