What I do not understand about Spurs fans...

[Babylon]

but my point is that everyone seems to hate us because we 'challenged' your boys for the title.. we just carried on doing what we have been doing - why hate us for that? If the reason for dislike are the comments of a few individuals.. well quite frankly that makes you just as bad as them.

That's absolutely no true at all, there was huge praise on here for Spurs and nothing negative at all said until we played at yours. We then witnessed the utter mouth breathers on the fighting cock and twitter, chucking their bile everywhere about us. It was from that point onwards people started to get a hatred for Spurs, as they all talked out of their arses.

[Mampi]

"I can take criticism about myself or my club."

Excellent.

You're a bellend.

The fact you're comparing incomes from the championship and premier league just shows how much you really know.

The fact that you are pointing out every little thing to try and make our achievement seem less than it is comes across as pathetic.

The fact that you feel the need to try and justify just how great spurs is compared to our "little leicester" should tell you what an achievement it is.

 

I don't claim to know about Leicester's finances. My tabloid media source is what Google returned me as a start of season snapshot of finances. Those that correct me with a source I genuinely appreciate. I'm learning while here which is a good thing.

 

Your achievement is completely amazing - as is well documented. If you interpret discussion as belittling your club then I can't really help you.

 

There's nothing to justify. Leicester are better than Spurs on the field - there's no shame in that for me. This thread is basically a Spurs slag off, and Leicester are not as little as you might think.

 

As for name calling - I don't know. Are you trying to make this forum like 'The fighting cock'?

[foxfanazer]

The only thing that matters is we have won the league. However the Spurs fans dress it up they are gutted, as we would've been to miss out. We have done it on a small budget and all of this net spend rubbish is irrelevant. They have bought players for the same amount as our starting 11

Respect to them for some of the football they've played this season and for getting players in the England squad. Pochettino seems a very good young manager and the future looks promising for them. It just makes our achievement all the more remarkable and it's something nobody can ever take away from us

[Guest Col city fan]

We hit the jackpot selling Bale, but we are always good in the transfer market - and it's certainly no secret TV money is the reason behind every Premier League clubs financial situations.

Even with this TV money clubs still make to make a mess of things somehow - and think that should be severely punished.

I don't know about the £800m club valuation. I thought it was more like £600, and Joe Lewis wanted to sell for no less than 1 billion - but also saw a Forbes article saying Spurs are top 10 valued soccer team at around £750m.

The cynicism and arrogance you supposedly sense is probably just your natural defence mechanisms. I work for Leicester FC & Tottenham FC, have a reasonable bit of 'inside information' and have respect for the way both clubs are run.

Always good in the transfer market?

You've wasted many many millions over the past few seasons. Who was that duffer you signed from Spain who couldn't hit a barn door? The Bale money was essentially wasted on some very average players.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

As for name calling - I don't know. Are you trying to make this forum like 'The fighting cock'?

Nah FT will never be like The Fighting Cock becasue the word "cvnt" gets blocked on here and that seems to be their favourite word over there. 

[Shelf Side Spurs]

We don't have debt, and the initial £400m stadium budget could end up as high as £800m by the end of the project. I didn't say we will borrow £400m - who knows what will or wont be needed.

I do support your clubs HR and Payroll systems, so I do know a little bit - but nothing about the overall finances as I have said throughout. The media is my source and thank those of you that have pointed out when you cleared your debts.

 

I can compare any club to any club - as can you if you like. What's the issue with comparing Leicester and Spurs?

 

I haven't been talking about net spend, amazing football, children or bottles - but the stadium and area redevelopment will have an effect that lasts well over 20 years.. More like 100 years.. 

I'm getting the impression you scanned over parts of a couple of posts and came back shooting from the hip. Don't worry, I can forgive you. If that's patronising enough for you?

 

Look I'm not here to flame, argue, patronise, belittle or anything negative. I can take criticism about myself or my club.

Mate this is a Leicester City fans forum, that you (and I) have been on for about 5 minutes......to be honest you're coming across as a little bit naive. In their hour of glory and who knows, potential future success as well, I don't get the point in referencing finances and their relevance in Leicester's case to winning the league on merit...in fact by doing significantly better, not just a little bit than anyone else, by playing football and winning more games, securing more points than anyone else.

 

I bit of sincerely deserved congratulations wouldn't go amiss, for they have clearly earned it. We/You can spout on about wealth, debt, mercenary players, legacy and whatever else, but City having spent christ knows how much, Chelsea, United and everyone else have all fallen by the wayside, having arguably, 'bought' success in previous years. Leicester have demonstrated beyond doubt that this season, and the end of last, that team spirit, some great scouting/recruitment, is at least and this season even more so, a more effective strategy than simply throwing money around to try and buy success.

 

You can also argue all you want about not having to deal with Cup competitions and Europe, but also remember that essentially their 'squad' side should have beaten us at WHL in the FA cup.

 

Leicester are a very very good team, have a glance at their results this season and the Premier league table...deserved Champions and I would suggest that a bit of recognition is the way forward. By all means celebrate our own football this season, because it's been (mostly) fantastic and great to watch, together with some notable individual performances, and a young British core at the heart of it all. It's also worth celebrating that we will finish likely the 'best of the rest' again probably deservedly so, a position that any Spurs fan would have taken (and equally probably not believed) at the start of the season. So better than all the 'big' clubs mentioned above plus Arsenal and Liverpool.

 

Leicester have won the league, so if you want to compare the two clubs, they're first and we're most probably second. It's a fantastic achievement on their part, nothing else needs to be said, it's in black and white. I wish them well next season in the league and in Europe, in the Champions League - it could genuinely be the start of big things for both our clubs. Hope so.

[ThaiFox]

I'm glad you've got loads of money spurs, well done

 

We won the league, it was ****ing amazing

I thought we had loads of money as well as winning the league! 

[Bazly]

As an aside from the apparent arrogance of Spurs fans we really should consider if we would have conducted ourselves in a similar manner (apart from using cvunts to describe everybody, every team and every action) if in a similar situation.

 

Would we have been convinced we had the best team, the best individual players, the best manager; simply the best. Any failure was simply a conspiracy of referees, luck and cheats? The answer is definitely no. Every win was a pleasant surprise. Every loss was hailed by Ranierri as a well done to the opposition. A prediction for next year, Spurs definitely wont win the EPL. Their team, their manager and their fans simply aren't good enough tactically or mentally,

 

Its a shame when both LC and TH have crushed the establishment there isn't more collective joy, guess it comes down to there can only be one winner. Remind me again - who was that?

[stripeyfox]

Spurs' tremendously attractive and exciting brand of attractive football has yield ONE extra goal than our band of roided up racists playing hoof ball. It that remains the same after Sunday we should drive the trophy up to WHL and hand it over with good grace...

[foxfanazer]

Mate this is a Leicester City fans forum, that you (and I) have been on for about 5 minutes......to be honest you're coming across as a little bit naive. In their hour of glory and who knows, potential future success as well, I don't get the point in referencing finances and their relevance in Leicester's case to winning the league on merit...in fact by doing significantly better, not just a little bit than anyone else, by playing football and winning more games, securing more points than anyone else.

I bit of sincerely deserved congratulations wouldn't go amiss, for they have clearly earned it. We/You can spout on about wealth, debt, mercenary players, legacy and whatever else, but City having spent christ knows how much, Chelsea, United and everyone else have all fallen by the wayside, having arguably, 'bought' success in previous years. Leicester have demonstrated beyond doubt that this season, and the end of last, that team spirit, some great scouting/recruitment, is at least and this season even more so, a more effective strategy than simply throwing money around to try and buy success.

You can also argue all you want about not having to deal with Cup competitions and Europe, but also remember that essentially their 'squad' side should have beaten us at WHL in the FA cup.

Leicester are a very very good team, have a glance at their results this season and the Premier league table...deserved Champions and I would suggest that a bit of recognition is the way forward. By all means celebrate our own football this season, because it's been (mostly) fantastic and great to watch, together with some notable individual performances, and a young British core at the heart of it all. It's also worth celebrating that we will finish likely the 'best of the rest' again probably deservedly so, a position that any Spurs fan would have taken (and equally probably not believed) at the start of the season. So better than all the 'big' clubs mentioned above plus Arsenal and Liverpool.

Leicester have won the league, so if you want to compare the two clubs, they're first and we're most probably second. It's a fantastic achievement on their part, nothing else needs to be said, it's in black and white. I wish them well next season in the league and in Europe, in the Champions League - it could genuinely be the start of big things for both our clubs. Hope so.

The contrast between you two is huge. It is a shame that such a remarkable season for both clubs has been tainted with petty bickering and muscle flexing from the fans

[Babylon]

Always good in the transfer market?

You've wasted many many millions over the past few seasons. Who was that duffer you signed from Spain who couldn't hit a barn door? The Bale money was essentially wasted on some very average players.

To be fair, whilst they have wasted quite a bit they do manage to get good fees for players they sell. They are good at getting rid at the right time.

[ScouseFox]

To be fair, whilst they have wasted quite a bit they do manage to get good fees for players they sell. They are good at getting rid at the right time.

 

cos they're a selling club. not a successful club. 

[katieakita]

So this Spuds fan reckons he works for the club, well seems to have made some odd accusations about the Club and Owners, grounds for dismissal for sure but i'm calling BS. So go worry about finishing higher than Arsenal for the first time this century.

[Shelf Side Spurs]

As an aside from the apparent arrogance of Spurs fans we really do should consider if we would have conducted ourselves in a similar manner (apart from using cvunts to describe everybody, every team and every action) if in a similar situation.

 

Would we have been convinced we had the best team, the best individual players, the best manager; simply the best. Any failure was simply a conspiracy of referees, luck and cheats? The answer is definitely no. Every win was a pleasant surprise. Every loss was hailed by Ranierri as a well done to the opposition. A prediction for next year, Spurs definitely wont win the EPL. Their team, their manager and their fans simply aren't good enough tactically or mentally,

 

Its a shame when both LC and TH have crushed the establishment there isn't more collective joy, guess it comes down to there can only be one winner. Remind me again - who was that?

I think there probably is to be honest......I know I was personally gutted when Arsenal scored with the last kick at the Emirates....and equally honestly I think everyone, not just spurs fans thought you'd have a poor run at some stage....you just never did, hat's off all round. You guys do need to look past that Fighting cock forum though, it really isn't representative of the wider Spurs support. If it hadn't been us as your closest challengers, we'd be in the same boat as everyone else cheering you on.

 

The other thing that some may have missed is the league table after 20 games when Arsenal were top. I don't think we 'bottled' it.....we came second (or third) to a better team over 38 games this season and again personally speaking I'm delighted with our progression, football and goals achieved this year.

 

Much will happen this Summer, with managers and players, especially as the moneyball clubs will be smarting at their lack of success, but if next season is as good as this one, there won't be much to complain about and we could be jointly proud of both clubs performance again.

[Shelf Side Spurs]

To be fair, whilst they have wasted quite a bit they do manage to get good fees for players they sell. They are good at getting rid at the right time.

We had a brilliant Summer last year under Poch's ruthless management style, when he sold at relatively excellent prices the lazy/deadwood/troublesome players in the squad that weren't going to buy into his training regimes and pressing/playing style. Which turned out to be a masterstroke.

 

Prior to that we made the error, with hindsight of spending £80m+ on 7 players to cover the Bales loss, when we should have bought only 2 or three proven high quality. This wasn't down to Poch however and we also have a strict wage structure which means attracting truly 'world class' players is difficult.

 

Leicester have proved this season that you don't really need to follow that path, with Mahrez, Vardy and Kante being the obvious examples in comparison with Inler. Steve Walsh is worth his weight in gold as was Pleat in securing Alli. We now have Mitchell from Southampton, so all being well, this trend will continue for the future, of course both our clubs finances will be even better next season and Champions League football is another carrot in attracting quality. The problem we might both face is that quality players will take a look at the squads and won't fancy sitting on the bench...as I don't see too many weaknesses in either first XI. Investing in youth might be the way forward - Demarai Gray for example....and Chilwell type players.

[ScouseFox]

I think there probably is to be honest......I know I was personally gutted when Arsenal scored with the last kick at the Emirates....and equally honestly I think everyone, not just spurs fans thought you'd have a poor run at some stage....you just never did, hat's off all round. You guys do need to look past that Fighting cock forum though, it really isn't representative of the wider Spurs support. If it hadn't been us as your closest challengers, we'd be in the same boat as everyone else cheering you on.

 

The other thing that some may have missed is the league table after 20 games when Arsenal were top. I don't think we 'bottled' it.....we came second (or third) to a better team over 38 games this season and again personally speaking I'm delighted with our progression, football and goals achieved this year.

 

Much will happen this Summer, with managers and players, especially as the moneyball clubs will be smarting at their lack of success, but if next season is as good as this one, there won't be much to complain about and we could be jointly proud of both clubs performance again.

 

"bottled it" is a stupid term, it doesn't really mean anything. 

 

but after we drew with west brom, you played twice before we next played and were 3 points behind. 1 win from two games and you'd have gone top and the pressure on us would've been mad. you then got outfought and outplayed by west ham and fu cked up a 2-1 lead against a ten man, already beaten arsenal. 

 

from then on it was plain sailing for us really. you had one massive chance and blew it. dunno if that counts as bottling or not like. obviously as "bottling" goes arsenal took it to a new level and city might take it to an even better level, going from title favourites in february to the europa league by may . 

[Shelf Side Spurs]

"bottled it" is a stupid term, it doesn't really mean anything. 

 

but after we drew with west brom, you played twice before we next played and were 3 points behind. 1 win from two games and you'd have gone top and the pressure on us would've been mad. you then got outfought and outplayed by west ham and fu cked up a 2-1 lead against a ten man, already beaten arsenal. 

 

from then on it was plain sailing for us really. you had one massive chance and blew it. dunno if that counts as bottling or not like. obviously as "bottling" goes arsenal took it to a new level and city might take it to an even better level, going from title favourites in february to the europa league by may . 

Yes...thanks for the reminder! I was at West Ham, Arsenal and more recently WBA at home. I also went to a certain game in January when we left Robert Huth unmarked at a corner.....it's all about winning games and having the ability to close games down. Apprently we've won more games coming from behind this season but also have dropped more points tham anyone else having been in front....you'll also remember one of those when we were beating you for about 80 seconds....!!

[norwichfox]

His personal wealth makes no difference to the clubs books. He doesn't pump in money - we are self sufficient.

We do things like sell players for world record fees and take out bank loans to fund a £400m - £800m stadium. Joe Lewis will not be putting his hand in his pocket for that.

Also you screw up big time in the transfer market......

Roberto Soldado £26m spent £10m recovered

Paulinho    £17m spent £9.9m recovered

The losses on those 2 would have bought you our 2 most expensive signings ever:

 

Kramarić 9m

Ulloa 8.0m

 

And you would have had enough left over to buy a couple of other players that seem to have fitted in quite well.....

Kante 5.6m

Vardy  1m

Mahrez 750k

 

Oh and they'll be plenty left over for a tub of Jellied eels and a few bunches of sour grapes....

[1972 Fox]

A few quick comparisons between Leicester and Spurs.

 

Leicester have an insurmountable 80 points from 37 games, Spurs have 70 points from 37 games.

Leicester have 1 Premier League title, Spurs have none.

Leicester are praised and lauded by fans of most other teams in England, Spurs appear to be hated and loathed by most. 

 

We won the Premier League because we were better than Spurs and every other team in England this season. Spurs fans need to get over it. Maybe they'll make a better fist of it next season.

[shade]

why cant we all just stop arguing and enjoy our achievements? enjoy winning the league and let spurs enjoy finishing second.

[weller54]

Spuds fans spaffing over Ponce signing a new contract and how long it will be before we lose ranieri!!..

Cocks!!

[HighPeakFox]

Just to remind some of you....we won, it's over, you're allowed to feel happy.

[Mampi]

I'm not here to get in arguments with people - I don't want to start calling people names or accusing them of being something. I have a lot of respect and admiration for Leicester but perhaps me talking about Spurs (on a thread about Spurs fans) makes it not come across that way.

 

To the guy that referenced my working for the clubs - I work as a SQL database analyst for a number of high profile clients, which include lots of football clubs including Leicester and Tottenham. We provide and support their HR and Payroll systems. We are proud of the clients we represent and certainly my comments would not lead towards 'instant dismissal'.

 

I will address the overly criticised 'Bale money' situation though. We don't announce the exact figures per player, so can only go by other clubs information or reports. These transfers are dependant on all sorts of clauses - including appearances, goals, caps etc.

 

Paulinho - paid £14.8m - sold £10.5m

Eriksen - paid £10.1m

Soldado - paid £22.5m - sold £12m

Chadli - paid £6.1m

Capoue - paid £8.25m - sold £6.7m

Chiriches - paid £7.1m - sold £5.25m

Lamela - paid £22.5m

 

Total paid = £91.35m

Total sold = £34.34m

Difference = £57m

 

So we got Lamela, Chadli and Eriksen for £57m

If we were to sell these players, I would suggest £20m Lamela, £10 Chadli, £25m+ Eriksen is realistic.

It's not as bad business as people would suggest - and this is one of our worst bits of transfer activity.

 

My source is http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/

 

- I had better add before I'm accused of something ridiculous, I know the whole title winning team cost as much as 3 of our players. Amazing stuff. It's an interesting thought that Mahrez is probably worth 40-60m within the Leicester 'unit', but wonder how he would get on at a club like Arsenal. (Not that I think it will happen)

[Vlad the Fox]

Just to remind some of you....we won, it's over, you're allowed to feel happy.

Agree, it got tense as we approached the finishing line but now I can relax I enjoyed it. The spurs 'we're coming for you' and our 'we're waiting for you', kanes tweet followed by Vardys, Kasper texting Ericsson, the are you watching tottenham (even funnier because the forest fans were getting their knickers in a twist thinking we were singing nottingham), all added to the title run in. But it's finished now, both teams have had a great season, though ours was greater , and smashed the top 4 apart so much so that they're all scrambling around protesting and winging, and as at the end of any match we should shake hands and have a drink, the rivalries finished, for this season anyway at least.

[ARCHER]

I'm not here to get in arguments with people - I don't want to start calling people names or accusing them of being something. I have a lot of respect and admiration for Leicester but perhaps me talking about Spurs (on a thread about Spurs fans) makes it not come across that way.

To the guy that referenced my working for the clubs - I work as a SQL database analyst for a number of high profile clients, which include lots of football clubs including Leicester and Tottenham. We provide and support their HR and Payroll systems. We are proud of the clients we represent and certainly my comments would not lead towards 'instant dismissal'.

I will address the overly criticised 'Bale money' situation though. We don't announce the exact figures per player, so can only go by other clubs information or reports. These transfers are dependant on all sorts of clauses - including appearances, goals, caps etc.

Paulinho - paid £14.8m - sold £10.5m

Eriksen - paid £10.1m

Soldado - paid £22.5m - sold £12m

Chadli - paid £6.1m

Capoue - paid £8.25m - sold £6.7m

Chiriches - paid £7.1m - sold £5.25m

Lamela - paid £22.5m

Total paid = £91.35m

Total sold = £34.34m

Difference = £57m

So we got Lamela, Chadli and Eriksen for £57m

If we were to sell these players, I would suggest £20m Lamela, £10 Chadli, £25m+ Eriksen is realistic.

It's not as bad business as people would suggest - and this is one of our worst bits of transfer activity.

My source is http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/

- I had better add before I'm accused of something ridiculous, I know the whole title winning team cost as much as 3 of our players. Amazing stuff. It's an interesting thought that Mahrez is probably worth 40-60m within the Leicester 'unit', but wonder how he would get on at a club like Arsenal. (Not that I think it will happen)

Yawn........