Kitchandro Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Good point about about the tax, I guess its 45%ish, giving him say 2.4m take home annually, say 10 million over the four years. That might seem like a lot to you and me (and it is), but he is going to want some sound property investments, for a start. Whats the going rate for a swish London pad, and a really nice holiday home somewhere flash? Thats 3 or 4 mills gone, for a start. Maintaining his properties, and not having to worry about counting the pounds too much in everyday life. Shall we say 200k, just as an example. I just don't think you can compare what you and I get paid, with these kind of folks. He doesn't want to be tooling round in a Mondeo in 20 years time, he wants to maintain his lifestyle. Wouldn't you, if you were in his position? The man has made it, and he wants to secure his long term future against any unforeseen eventualities. Long term illnesses or care when you are old can cost a small fortune these days (depending on how life pans out), not to mention helping his kids get a really good education and a foothold on the property ladder, so they don't have to break their backs in a sh***y factory/warehouse, for decades on end. You can call it pure greed if you want, but I'd call it making what you can, when you can. I don't know what you earn, but I would be more than happy to be getting a hell of a lot more than I do now, and be hitting the golf course/beach in my late 50's, as opposed to working til I'm 75 and living off a modest retirement income (which is far more likely). I suppose you could call that greedy too. Yeh I call that greed pal.
BoneDog Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 That's not really to his face though, is it? I'm not even on Twitter really, just trying to express how upset I'd be. But I'd get over it because I'm sure we'll sign some quality.
Dan Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 No-one trotting out this "provide for his family" justifying this is being serious are they? He's on phenomenal money no matter what he does. It is greed.
NeilLCFC Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 There's no chance this could still just be a rumour is there? Just can't accept or understand why any of our team would want to leave after the season we've had. It's not even been a month since 250k were part of one of the biggest parties this country has ever seen! He was the last one I thought would leave
Tuna Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 Wenger is a spiteful old cnut. I'm near enough convinced that he's signing Vardy, just because he can. Just to put little old Leicester back in their box again like the tiny little club we are. 'How dare they be successful. I will take all their players'.
TJB-fox Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 No-one trotting out this "provide for his family" justifying this is being serious are they? He's on phenomenal money no matter what he does. It is greed.Absolutely this. Working very hard, or doing extra shifts or working unsociable hours, or making big sacrifices is 'providing for his family' not demanding an extra 60k a week when he's already on 80k a week! That's still 4m a year! More than some/most will earn in a lifetime. I call it greed.
Kitchandro Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 Wenger is a spiteful old cnut. I'm near enough convinced that he's signing Vardy, just because he can. Just to put little old Leicester back in their box again like the tiny little club we are. 'How dare they be successful. I will take all their players'. People have been saying that Arsenal, Man City & Chelsea will improve next season, but the easiest way to beat us was always going to be to dismantle our team. Hurting us gives the others far more of a chance than if they just signed top players from other clubs. Even if he fails at Arsenal, they have fvcked us up massively in terms of us challenging him for the title. Maybe Wenger is more intelligent than I gave him credit for.
stox259 Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 Can't we just hide him wherever Preki is and have a pint in the Winchester until this all blows over?
BoneDog Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 Wenger is a spiteful old cnut. I'm near enough convinced that he's signing Vardy, just because he can. Just to put little old Leicester back in their box again like the tiny little club we are. 'How dare they be successful. I will take all their players'. He's a lucky old one to keep that cushy number for so long too. If the Arsenal owner and board were only thinking of football glory he'd have been dismissed long ago.
Spiritwalker Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 Sounds like act of desperation by Arsenal too. Already got decent forwards in Giroud, Sanchez and possibly Welbeck. Has to hit form quickly or go under and rot like many have done after moving to The Emirates. Arsenal are managed by a man who has lost his way/ come to the end of his reign. It's an obvious easystrategy to try and cherry pick what he perceives to be the the main players in the title winning side.
Mezeker Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 Absolutely this. Working very hard, or doing extra shifts or working unsociable hours, or making big sacrifices is 'providing for his family' not demanding an extra 60k a week when he's already on 80k a week! That's still 4m a year! More than some/most will earn in a lifetime. I call it greed. why is it greed? Pay him what the market dictates or you can't blame him. If my wages were being doubled I would jet, taxes take half my wage. Many athletes support most of their extended family as well. Anyways i think its unfair to call him greedy. The argument that he makes more than some will earn in a lifetime i don't buy; he is a professional footballer by his own efforts and talent. He owes fans nothing. That being said I would still be salty as a fan if he were to leave.
TeamRocket Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 What happens if someone else comes in with a say 30mil offer?
Dan Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 why is it greed? Pay him what the market dictates or you can't blame him. If my wages were being doubled I would jet, taxes take half my wage. Many athletes support most of their extended family as well. Anyways i think its unfair to call him greedy. The argument that he makes more than some will earn in a lifetime i don't buy; he is a professional footballer by his own efforts and talent. He owes fans nothing. That being said I would still be salty as a fan if he were to leave. It's relative though isn't it. An increase from £80k a week to £120k a week, yeah it's obviously good for him, but is it so good, and so life changing that you would turn your back on the absolute perfect platform for it? It's a massive risk on his behalf and I think come January, should he go, he will be regretting it.
Kitchandro Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 why is it greed? Pay him what the market dictates or you can't blame him. If my wages were being doubled I would jet, taxes take half my wage. Many athletes support most of their extended family as well. Anyways i think its unfair to call him greedy. Well we know Jamie, for one, certainly doesn't do that. I don't know why it's being questioned that he's greedy if he chooses to go because he's being paid more. Think about it for a second. What else do you call that? It's like a Mr Burns scene from The Simpsons. 'Only £80K a week? How am I going to support my family with that?' It's pretty much the definition of greed. Whether that is his main reason and whether he should be hated for that is another matter but it certainly would be greed if that was the case.
Mezeker Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 What happens if someone else comes in with a say 30mil offer? they would have to not be in the champions league or they could just nab him for the release clause.
The_77 Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 It's not greed. Jesus. He's not f***ing anyone over for the money. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Spiritwalker Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 why is it greed? Pay him what the market dictates or you can't blame him. If my wages were being doubled I would jet, taxes take half my wage. Many athletes support most of their extended family as well. Anyways i think its unfair to call him greedy. The argument that he makes more than some will earn in a lifetime i don't buy; he is a professional footballer by his own efforts and talent. He owes fans nothing. That being said I would still be salty as a fan if he were to leave.It is greed because it is greed, anyone who thinks earning 4 MILLION a year is not enough is being greedy.Market forces is a term used by people trying to justify greed and injustice.
FuchingKante Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 There's no chance this could still just be a rumour is there? Just can't accept or understand why any of our team would want to leave after the season we've had. It's not even been a month since 250k were part of one of the biggest parties this country has ever seen! He was the last one I thought would leave Seems unlikely due to the silence from his social media. We can hope though
oohaahmustafa Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 I imagine it's hard to say no when someone offers to essentially double your wages. He's not a Leicester fan. If it was me and I'd just won the league at Sheffield Wednesday, I'd probably be off tbh.
Vardinio'sCat Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 If they move for more money when they're already set for life on the current contract then it's a move for greed - plain and simple. It's not about providing at that level, you're already more than capable of that: once you're earning more post tax per week than the average person earns per year (pre-tax) talk of having to do what's right for your family financially is ridiculous; they're already sorted either way. You are really saying that 1.2 million sets you up for life, no worries, everything is in the bag? Do you know much about pensions then...
The_77 Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 It is greed because it is greed, anyone who thinks earning 4 MILLION a year is not enough is being greedy. Market forces is a term used by people trying to justify greed and injustice. If that's what he's worth, that's what he's worth. Unless you're siding with the billionaires over the millionaires. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
TeamRocket Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 they would have to not be in the champions league or they could just nab him for the release clause. Alright so some other team could make an offer and as lcfc can accept the offer? Cos at the end of the day he mighy have the only CL tean trigger offer but that shouldnt stop lcfc from saying yeah to anyone else? (not saying he going or what him to go cos i dont think he will ) Obviously overs being over 20mil marck
Mezeker Posted 5 June 2016 Posted 5 June 2016 It is greed because it is greed, anyone who thinks earning 4 MILLION a year is not enough is being greedy. Market forces is a term used by people trying to justify greed and injustice. You call it greed, I call it intelligence and foresight. In all honesty if I was Vardy and the owners did not want to match what was being offered by Arsenal I would feel disrespected and slighted. Its not like they can't afford it. I get very uneasy in a world where tv networks and teams get paid millions but if a player leaves for more money he is called greedy.
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