Everton plan Kasper Schmeichel transfer

[Sol thewall Bamba]

41 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Another with poor ambition.

 

Why won't we be Champions in 12 months time?

 

It might be unlikely right now, it'll be impossible if we lose our best players to sides willing to shell out the going rate.

Building sustainably isn't a lack of ambition.

 

Remember when we were 'ambitious' under Sven and got in 'big names' and paid big wages? That went well.  

[Gerard]

For me Schmeichel was arguably the best GK in the league last season, if he keeps his standards up he is worth it.

 

I'm a firm believe of not rewarding everyone who was a first team player last season but I'm happy to reward our key players. It's imperative we keep the likes of Vardy, Mahrez, Schmeichel, Morgan and Drinkwater as those five along with Kante were our really key players. We shouldn't be offering inflated contracts to our lesser players as otherwise we'll be stuck with them as they won't want to leave as no other club will match their salary. Any contract we offer should be one that they could get at another club and not over inflated.

 

We can afford to pay that kind of money with the new TV deal and contracts like £100k a week will be the norm for good PL players in a year.

 

11 players @ average £100k a week and 11 players at average £50k a week is still only an annual wage bill of £86m

[AKCJ]

1 minute ago, ealingfox said:

No it isn't. Chiefly because you've just decided in your own head that 100k a week is the 'going rate for proven quality' - an absolutely meaningless cliché. How many players in the league do you think are actually on that much? And how many players did we have on 100k a week when we actually did win the league?

 

Kasper isn't good enough to warrant 100k a week and you telling me I can't say that doesn't make it so. You'd want one of the best keepers in Europe for that much. Winning the league doesn't automatically make you 'proven quality'. Look at some of the shite that have picked up medals with Man U over the years. Kasper was shit in 14/15, and had a good season last year, and a lot of that is down to being heavily protected against anything except long-range shots and reflex saves, his 2 strongest attributes.

 

We've already let the one player who put us decisively into the top bracket leave for a relative pittance (How was that for ambition?). Without Kanté, we are a different team. We can't set up in the same way and we can't be as solid defensively.

 

You telling people they have 'poor ambition'. What does that even mean? That we don't want Leicester to be the best? Or don't think we can be? Absolute nonsense.

 

We all want and think the same things, we just don't agree on the way to go about it.

 

 

Kasper is good enough to warrant 100k a week.

 

He's proven quality in this league and, because another team will pick him up and pay him it thus 100k a week is the going rate. Kasper had an exceptional season last season. The short term memory of this forum baffles me.

 

We let Kante go for 32m. Which is the most any midfielder has ever been sold for between clubs in England. Ultimately, the decision rested with Kante and he wanted to leave so I suppose that the lack of ambition falls at his feet.

 

I just find it strange how Leicester fans of all people are writing us off before the season has started. That would obviously all change should we nick a 1-0 win against Barca but that's just the fickle nature of a lot of people on here.

[AKCJ]

8 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Building sustainably isn't a lack of ambition.

 

Remember when we were 'ambitious' under Sven and got in 'big names' and paid big wages? That went well.  

Yeah because this is entirely relatable.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

4 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Yeah because this is entirely relatable.

Building sustainably isn't a lack of ambition.

[Babylon]

Nobody is going to pay a short arse keeper who couldn't catch a cold 100k a week.

[AKCJ]

3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Building sustainably isn't a lack of ambition.

It's a complete lack of ambition to let your best players leave because you won't meet their demands when other teams will.

 

If we were to not pay Kasper 100k a week then it wouldn't take 5 minutes before another club came in and swooped him up.

 

So you need to ask yourself... do we want to be mid table forever or do we want to use our current pulling power and tremendous wealth to build on what we've got and see if we can better ourselves.

[The whole world smiles]

I personally would take the figures in the Mail with a massive pinch of salt but whatever you pay Kasper in his new deal you aren't just paying for his Goalkeeping ability (he is comfortably in the top 6-8 goalies in the prem) but you are also paying for his intelligence (Wes stated that the 2 players he brings into meetings with Claudio are Kasper and King) his influence (It was Kasper who organised the superhero dress up trip to Copenhagen) and his leadership, organisation and communication (he was a massive, massive part in turning a back four of Journeyman defenders turning into one of the most well drilled and well organised defences in the history of the prem).

 

So for me his goalkeeping is premiership class but his intelligence, influence, leadership and organisation are genuine world class and if the club have decided to pay his such a large wage its because they recognise the value of these skills.  

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Just now, AKCJ said:

It's a complete lack of ambition to let your best players leave because you won't meet their demands when other teams will.

 

If we were to not pay Kasper 100k a week then it wouldn't take 5 minutes before another club came in and swooped him up.

 

So you need to ask yourself... do we want to be mid table forever or do we want to use our current pulling power and tremendous wealth to build on what we've got and see if we can better ourselves.

Oh give it a rest, we've got differing opinions lets just leave it at that. 

[TJB-fox]

People are scared of spending any money because every big money signing is obviously a flop and any player on big wages naturally has an attitude and ruins the dressing room

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

It's a complete lack of ambition to let your best players leave because you won't meet their demands when other teams will.

And if he demands 200k a week, should we pay that a well?

 

1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

If we were to not pay Kasper 100k a week then it wouldn't take 5 minutes before another club came in and swooped him up.

100k is a massive wage in this league for a keeper, you're talking best keepers in the world territory... which he isn't in my opinion. No top club is going to pay him that to be their no. 2... because they all alreday have better keepers.

 

1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

So you need to ask yourself... do we want to be mid table forever or do we want to use our current pulling power and tremendous wealth to build on what we've got and see if we can better ourselves.

Overspending doesn't better you if you can't afford it, it's not sustainable and will one day lead you on a downwards spiral.

[dylanlegend]

100k is a lot of money, personally shouldn't pay more than 80k however I think he is vital to how we play in terms of starting attacks quick. 5 year deal is a bit of a worry... Hopefully they include reduces in case worse case we go down within those 5 years

[Manc Fox]

Our owners are businessmen firstly so to believe a daily fail article when we don't give them the time of day regarding transfers etc. They know what Kasper is worth & will pay him accordingly. Am glad they're giving out contracts to our champions as it shows ambition to the team & to other clubs who want to try & cherry pick players when they feel like it. Let's not take this article as gospel, my opinion is it's not going to be 100k basic salary but even if it is, it'll be sustainable as they won't be paying all the players that. At least the other players will know that if they work hard & be a major part of our success then they to will be rewarded.

[norwichfox]

53 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Remember when we were 'ambitious' under Sven and got in 'big names' and paid big wages? That went well.  

It did as far a signing a Goal keeper

[Fox92]

He isn't worth that much.

 

With our scouting system we could get a better goalkeeper than him.

[Foxymcoxy]

2 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

He isn't worth that much.

 

With our scouting system we could get a better goalkeeper than him.

I think he's absolutely massive for us. Leadership and distribution are two factors he gets massive credit for in my book over what nearly any keeper in the world could offer Leicester city specifically. 

[norwichfox]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

He isn't worth that much.

 

With our scouting system we could get a better goalkeeper than him.

I'm curious to know what our current scouting system is.....

[Fox92]

Just now, Foxymcoxy said:

I think he's absolutely massive for us. Leadership and distribution are two factors he gets massive credit for in my book over what nearly any keeper in the world could offer Leicester city specifically. 

His distribution is 50/50. Occasionally spot on, most of the time shite. Half of his goal kicks go out of play. We need to start playing it out of the back anyway because we can't keep kicking it long to nobody. His shot stopping is decent, mind, but we could get a better goalkeeper and pay him less than the reported 100k a week. Schmeicel is 30 this year, also. 

 

And there's no point in people asking for better goalkeepers on a forum because we're not scouts. As Champions of England you'd think our pulling power is at it's the highest it's ever been. I liked the look of Portugal's goalkeeper during the European Championships.

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

His distribution is 50/50. Occasionally spot on, most of the time shite. Half of his goal kicks go out of play. We need to start playing it out of the back anyway because we can't keep kicking it long to nobody. His shot stopping is decent, mind, but we could get a better goalkeeper and pay him less than the reported 100k a week. Schmeicel is 30 this year, also. 

 

And there's no point in people asking for better goalkeepers on a forum because we're not scouts. As Champions of England you'd think our pulling power is at it's the highest it's ever been. I liked the look of Portugal's goalkeeper during the European Championships.

His biggest plus is consistency, he very very rarely drops an obvious clanger. There will be discussions about wall position, his position at free kicks, but never a ball going through his hands and those sorts of errors.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

12 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

He isn't worth that much.

 

With our scouting system we could get a better goalkeeper than him.

We may already have done. 

[Fox92]

Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said:

We may already have done. 

True. I'd like to see Ziegler tonight as well. Didn't feature at all against PSG which was disappointing. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Just now, Fox92 said:

True. I'd like to see Ziegler tonight as well. Didn't feature at all against PSG which was disappointing. 

I think KS will remain first choice for a while but he's going to have to be looking over his shoulder a lot more this season. 

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

And if he demands 200k a week, should we pay that a well?

There's a limit. Of course there is.

 

But I would suggest that if any team loses their keeper (United have been reported to lose De Gea and be interested in Kasper for a while now) and we've not got Kasper tied up to a contract befitting of his worth then he will go. Everton are rumoured to be interested (whether that is journalists putting Walsh + Everton + Leicester connections together, his agent getting a better deal or genuine interest I don't know).

 

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

 

100k is a massive wage in this league for a keeper, you're talking best keepers in the world territory... which he isn't in my opinion. No top club is going to pay him that to be their no. 2... because they all alreday have better keepers.

Currently De Gea is on 140, Courtois is rumoured to be offered 120 and Lloris is currently on 80 but rumoured to have been offered a 20k rise.

 

That's three keepers in this league at similar levels to Kasper's 15/16 performances. With the new TV deal, it's just how this league is.

 

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

 

Overspending doesn't better you if you can't afford it, it's not sustainable and will one day lead you on a downwards spiral.

Overspending doesn't make you better. Good scouting and signing good players  makes you better.

 

But we've already done that. We've got good players so lets pay them the right amount to keep them here.

[HankMarvin]

25 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I think KS will remain first choice for a while but he's going to have to be looking over his shoulder a lot more this season. 

Not sure you would be to fussed if you play to the best of your ability and you are dropped and are then sitting on 27million over 5 years

[ajthefox]

Kasper is worth a lot of money but 100k when Vardy has been given that is just a little too much for me. I'm sure if we bumped him up to 80k he would still have been very happy.