Guest MattP Posted 23 August 2016 Posted 23 August 2016 He actually gave his seat to Harambe, but you won't read about that in the mainstream media.
Darkon84 Posted 23 August 2016 Posted 23 August 2016 I shit you not, Emma Rees, the head of Momentum (I think), has just been on Sky News and said (roughly).... Quote Considering the journey occurred on the 11th August, I find the timing of this very curious and suspicious. With Virgin trains being privately owned by Richard Branson, the last thing he will want is Jermy to get in power and Nationalise the railways Jesus, this is priceless. Arguing with train timetables, and now the conspiracy begins. Called this hours ago
Guest MattP Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 The plot thickens. Corbyn today: "Yes I did look for two empty seats together so I could sit down with my wife to talk to her." Last night: "That line about only wanting to sit with his wife is nonsense and not from us." http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-admits-walked-past-8695739 "Porkies" Corbyn should really have just fessed up here straight away, admitted they wanted to do a video about rail renationalisation and were surprised they found empty seats but just decided to do it anyway, admit it was wrong and move on. The denials have kept this in the news and it's probably only going to get worse as it unravels. We've now also got the embarrassment of that girl from Momentum on Newsnight Darkon mentioned trying to claim the empty seats yo his right here are actually held by young children or luggage, all while keeping a straight face.
Guest Bilo Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 7 minutes ago, MattP said: The plot thickens. Corbyn today: "Yes I did look for two empty seats together so I could sit down with my wife to talk to her." Last night: "That line about only wanting to sit with his wife is nonsense and not from us." http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-admits-walked-past-8695739 "Porkies" Corbyn should really have just fessed up here straight away, admitted they wanted to do a video about rail renationalisation and were surprised they found empty seats but just decided to do it anyway, admit it was wrong and move on. The denials have kept this in the news and it's probably only going to get worse as it unravels. We've now also got the embarrassment of that girl from Momentum on Newsnight Darkon mentioned trying to claim the empty seats yo his right here are actually held by young children or luggage, all while keeping a straight face. Those seats are clearly occupied by Murdoch employed, neo-liberal, Tory Blairite dwarves from Israel.
Dr The Singh Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 14 minutes ago, Bilo said: Those seats are clearly occupied by Murdoch employed, small willied, neo-liberal, Tory Blairite dwarves from Israel. SO you took the seats!!
Guest MattP Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 26 minutes ago, Bilo said: Those seats are clearly occupied by Murdoch employed, neo-liberal, Tory Blairite dwarves from Israel. We're laughing but someone somewhere on The Canary has probably written that in a serious article. Seuman Milne has just been on Sly News stll peddling the "he couldn't find a seat" line - so no one has even bothered to notify the Head of Communications that the line has now changed to "He couldn't find two seats for him and his wife". I'm so torn on this leadership election, for the country, for people like Bilo and Alf I hope Smith wins and they can start rebuilding some credibility as an opposition but for political interest and pure hilarity this has been something we'll never see again and the thought of four more years of watching this lot run the circus is so enjoyable, I knew it would be funny under Corbyn but I didn't realise it would be this funny.
cityfanlee23 Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 Just shows how manipulated people are that the media have people still arguing over this. I'm a former thatcher supporter who now backs Corbyn over this mainstream, Elite, brainwashing society we are being manipulated into. The media are scared of him, democracy is NOT something they want. His economic policy makes the Tories look illiterate, I'm ashamed to say I was one.
Guest MattP Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 20 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: Just shows how manipulated people are that the media have people still arguing over this. I'm a former thatcher supporter who now backs Corbyn over this mainstream, Elite, brainwashing society we are being manipulated into. The media are scared of him, democracy is NOT something they want. His economic policy makes the Tories look illiterate, I'm ashamed to say I was one. How has this been manipulated? It's pretty clear he's walked past numerous empty seats both reserved and unreserved, then decided to sit on the floor and directly lie into a camera about the state of the train he is on. To suggest the media are scared of him is laughable, he's the most bungling incompetent to lead a major political party in history, everything he touches go wrong. What economic policy are you talking about? I still can't find a serious coherant one from him. Even the countries most prominant left wing economists are saying they told him to learn about economics and he decided not to bother - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/02/i-advised-jeremy-corbyn-economics-team-learn-fast--no-credible-plan-labour-leadership
Fox92 Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 It's embarrassing that this is still making headline news. Corbyn turned up to talk about the NHS and the reporter reportedly asked him about the Virgin service in question. He probably did walk past unreserved and reserved seats to sit on the floor, but lets not forget a pregnant woman was also on the floor too. Train services in this Country are appalling and I think he was looking at this to back up his idea to renationalise the railway but it's sadly gone wrong. I just don't know why he wouldn't think there would be CCTV though. Corbyn got his point across today, clearing it up, Virgin and Branson released images (I'm still looking for a full video though) but there are much bigger issues to talk about.
pSinatra Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 He could have got on a thousand trains on any day of the week & exposed problems with overcrowding. It's retarded to pick a half empty train to make his point
foxy boxing Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 well he has done his trains so next on the list for corbyn is planes and automobiles and remember he also has his by which I am sure he'll be told to get on soon
cityfanlee23 Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 50 minutes ago, MattP said: How has this been manipulated? It's pretty clear he's walked past numerous empty seats both reserved and unreserved, then decided to sit on the floor and directly lie into a camera about the state of the train he is on. To suggest the media are scared of him is laughable, he's the most bungling incompetent to lead a major political party in history, everything he touches go wrong. What economic policy are you talking about? I still can't find a serious coherant one from him. Even the countries most prominant left wing economists are saying they told him to learn about economics and he decided not to bother - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/02/i-advised-jeremy-corbyn-economics-team-learn-fast--no-credible-plan-labour-leadership Read my post again, I didn't say anything about evidence being manipulated. I said the people have been manipulated, people are arguing over something so trivial all this time later and it shows how the media have everyone in their clutches, it's no surprise people keep smearing him. The media are scared, no denying that. They are in attack mode trying to discredit anyone and anything related to him. His economy policy makes the tories look stupid. Seeing economists say that "PQE" is inflationary, whilst advocating QE for stock markets and missing the biggest crash in history even when banks were creating 1.2 trillion in just 10 years leading up to it? Modern Neoliberal economists are as thick as they come, they still teach in economics classes that banks are simply intermediaries in the monetary cycle, it's almost laughable. The economy needs investment not cuts, and that's what corbyn promotes, the real economy gets slashed and burned whilst the economists say it's necessary, yet the credit and debt markets keep on growing and they don't say a word. Neoliberal capitalism does not work, our entire monetary system is a complete failure and is propped up by every growing debts being pushed onto the individual. They talk about "growth" like it's some sort of success, anyone can grow an economy that is 78% financial services by expanding the money supply and growing personal debts to record levels, it's not hard. Having studied economics for many years, corbyn represents a complete shake up from the establishment and status quo that has pretty much destroyed all opportunity for our children, That's not to say he can win an election, but he represents the people more than the idiots currently running the show.
Guest MattP Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 35 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: His economy policy makes the tories look stupid. Seeing economists say that "PQE" is inflationary, whilst advocating QE for stock markets and missing the biggest crash in history even when banks were creating 1.2 trillion in just 10 years leading up to it? Modern Neoliberal economists are as thick as they come, they still teach in economics classes that banks are simply intermediaries in the monetary cycle, it's almost laughable. The economy needs investment not cuts, and that's what corbyn promotes, the real economy gets slashed and burned whilst the economists say it's necessary, yet the credit and debt markets keep on growing and they don't say a word. Neoliberal capitalism does not work, our entire monetary system is a complete failure and is propped up by every growing debts being pushed onto the individual. They talk about "growth" like it's some sort of success, anyone can grow an economy that is 78% financial services by expanding the money supply and growing personal debts to record levels, it's not hard. Having studied economics for many years, corbyn represents a complete shake up from the establishment and status quo that has pretty much destroyed all opportunity for our children, That's not to say he can win an election, but he represents the people more than the idiots currently running the show. I don't think it's quite a easy as you say otherwise every country in the World aside from a handful would have done it and enjoyed the same rise in living standards that we have seen in the neoliberal capitalist countries, they are breaking into zoos in Venezuela at the minute to steal animals to eat and that was a country whose economic ideas were lauded by Corbyn just a few years ago. Let's be honest we are never paying the debt we have back, we all know that, we can't even run a surplus let alone come close to reducing the 1.5 trillion t but I don't see how anything Corbyn has proposed is going to deal with this, if this economic policy is so good why is every credible economist completely distancing themselves from it and telling us how wrong he is, evern those who are on the left with him, you an't tell me they are all in it together surely? Again though where is this economic policy he has produced? I still can't find it.
cityfanlee23 Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 1 hour ago, MattP said: I don't think it's quite a easy as you say otherwise every country in the World aside from a handful would have done it and enjoyed the same rise in living standards that we have seen in the neoliberal capitalist countries, they are breaking into zoos in Venezuela at the minute to steal animals to eat and that was a country whose economic ideas were lauded by Corbyn just a few years ago. Let's be honest we are never paying the debt we have back, we all know that, we can't even run a surplus let alone come close to reducing the 1.5 trillion t but I don't see how anything Corbyn has proposed is going to deal with this, if this economic policy is so good why is every credible economist completely distancing themselves from it and telling us how wrong he is, evern those who are on the left with him, you an't tell me they are all in it together surely? Again though where is this economic policy he has produced? I still can't find it. You really think capitalist countries (which are run by the same banks that profit from the debt they create) Really want to see an alternative monetary system? Other countries can't do it simply because almost the entire world market is Neoliberal and it's difficult to compete with countries on that system. Its a race to the bottom, world debt is how much? It's going up not down, and it cannot go down because if it does, it means money is disappearing from the economy. Venezuela is not in the state it's in purely through socialism and corbyn is not saying we should have the same policies. Their economy is completely different and they have barely had decent socialism. (I'm not a socialist by the way, I'm centrist) It didn't help they locked their currencies to the $ which pretty much destroyed their economy. Well one of corbyns policies which is fantastic is Peoples Quantitative Easing. Banks hate it, politicians hate it, the finance sector hate it, why? Because it takes power away from them and gives it to the people. The entire monetary system is built on debt, in the short term it provides wealth and higher standards of living, in the long term it destroys the future of our children as we speculate on their futures today. I sound like I've come straight from an "anonymous" demonstration, but debt is slavery. We need a completely new economy, i dont listen to mainstream economists anymore, they are all mostly playing the neoliberal tune, i dont think corbyn is the economic messiah but I do agree with alot of his economic reforms that he wants to make, bank nationalisation for example. A sovereign nation should control it's own currency, instead of the current mess where we allow lloyds, Barclays and santander etc to create money as and when they want into the most profitable things they can find regardless of the economic destruction it causes.
Webbo Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 I guarantee if Teresan May or even David Cameron had been caught lying like this. like this nobody would think it was trivial.
Claridge Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 3 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said: Just shows how manipulated people are that the media have people still arguing over this. I'm a former thatcher supporter who now backs Corbyn over this mainstream, Elite, brainwashing society we are being manipulated into. The media are scared of him, democracy is NOT something they want. His economic policy makes the Tories look illiterate, I'm ashamed to say I was one. Policy? The muppet didn't even book a train seat in advance.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 24 August 2016 Posted 24 August 2016 Great quote here about Corbs in an article: Another complained that the leader was impossible to reach for some time on Tuesday because he was making jam.
Guest MattP Posted 25 August 2016 Posted 25 August 2016 14 minutes ago, Bilo said: It's not a cult though, it's all about policy.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 25 August 2016 Posted 25 August 2016 Another great quote from JC, he comes out with the dankest memes. “I know I am going to be told off for for ever,” he adds ruefully, contemplating the next day’s papers. “It is David Miliband and the banana all over again. [But] his [was a] pathetic little banana – and I have got a massive marrow,” he laughs.
SMX11 Posted 25 August 2016 Posted 25 August 2016 Peoples QE will just speed up the destruction of fiat currencies. How economists think that continuously degrading the value of currencies will lead to prosperity is beyond me. I oppose QE of any kind as it just kicks the can down the road and stops the liquidation of malinvestments. The inflation can be seen in housing and equities and huge bubbles have now been reinflated ready for the next calamity. This time however the central bankers can't cheat and slash interest rates.
Alf Bentley Posted 25 August 2016 Posted 25 August 2016 Well, I fired off my vote for Owen Smith this morning. Much good may it do me. I assume "Messiah Jeremy" will triumph unless something truly extraordinary occurs. We need more episodes like Traingate - and worse - for him to lose, I think. Maybe if CCTV footage emerged from a Virgin Train of the woman in the YouTube video ramming that marrow up Jeremy's arse while singing her little song, that might just do it? A few of the cult members might think twice then, even if the majority blamed Blairites & the MSM.... Short of that, I assume he wins and we're into a new and extended phase of this black farce. Big, big shame for everyone - and for British democracy at this crucial time. I didn't know much about Smith before this, but he's coming across to me as quite a shrewd operator and a potentially credible leader, even if he makes the odd reckless comment. Certainly a lot better than Eagle would have been as a candidate - and infinitely better than Corbyn is as leader.
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