NGoloMode Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 2 hours ago, GazzinderFox said: This may have been mentioned already, apologies if it has, but was 4 friendlies in 4 different countries really the best prep for this game? If it's good enough for PSG, Barca, Man City, Arsenal.. and so on its good enough for Leicester. Too much is being made of this I think. The tactics are more of an issue.
iamafox Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 Haven't felt so disappointed after watching a poor performance like that for a long time.
Callabinho Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 1 minute ago, dominicmsb said: If it's good enough for PSG, Barca, Man City, Arsenal.. and so on its good enough for Leicester. Too much is being made of this I think. The tactics are more of an issue. We have nowhere near the strength in depth, quality or experience of those sides mentioned. We won the league through sheer determination, team work, a bit of unique quality and the shortcomings of the 'big six'. All of the sides you have mentioned have the technical ability to make up for the lack of match practice at the start of the season, we don't. We needed a few more games in between to work on the team and work on a new way to play. We lost today because were disorganised, unrehearsed and according to Claudio only 60% fit......Which frankly is unacceptable for champions.
Great Boos Up Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 Not angry or upset; just a little disappointed that we didn't start with what we know would work, especially as it was Hull. We knew Huth needed a new face in that position but it surely was a case of too many changes too soon. Positional play was the downfall here, too many players interfering with other players positions causing Drinky and King, Musa and Vardy to almost join hands in parts of the game. Keep the basic team and introduce the faces when we are up. I think Claudio went for the kill and it backfired against a balls to the wall Hull team.
splinterdream Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 17 minutes ago, dominicmsb said: If it's good enough for PSG, Barca, Man City, Arsenal.. and so on its good enough for Leicester. Too much is being made of this I think. The tactics are more of an issue. The thing is the game we play is based on organisation and fitness, those other teams and players don't need to chase the ball down and make so many runs, that's the difference
ARTY_FOX Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 1 hour ago, Great Boos Up said: Agreed, and I thought that Hull did! It wasn't even just the defending or that kante was missing. Going forward we just didn't seem like the Leicester of last year. There was something missing.
los dedos Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 1 hour ago, ARM1968 said: We were champions. No way we will make top 10 with effort that lacking. Ok spade a spade that is knee jerk my friend.
suffolk fox Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 3 hours ago, Col city fan said: Is Gray going to be the next player who receives accolades from many, for some reason, when actually he doesn't look at all brilliant?Today he couldn't keep the ball at all and couldn't find a blue shirt for his life. Hes got all the potential, I'm yet to see much of it. Totally agree. His first touch is appalling. Many times today it bounced off his foot straight to the opposition. He is only young though and can develop in this league. Albrighton should have started.
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 I think also which wasn't ideal for us today was the unknownness about Hull. We know their situation, but what came with it was difficult to tactially play against. Claudio is renowned for his tactical ability but today it would of been harder to analyse Hull as their personal, shape and tactics were all different most likely to what you'd expect of a newly promoted team. The fact they haven't invested in their squad made their lads stick together even more. Whereas if we play teams such as Everton, Stoke, Arsenal etc you know what you're more likely getting, making it easier to set up against and analyse tactially.
Foxesmints Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 Dropping both Albrighton & Okazaki today was a huge mistake. They are two of our hardest working players, link up defence/midfield/attack and whilst never being the star player put in 7/8 out of 10 performances every week. I would bring them both back in for the Arsenal game, play Hernandez at right back and Mendy alongside Drinkwater. Sorted.
Bernieboots76 Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 That was a really poor start to the season and to be honest not a complete surprise there were times in the first half were we went in for tackles and not winning them just like last week against United. We need to sort out who is going to partner Drinkwater in the middle because I just don't think him and King make a effective partnership long term, we do need a ball winner that is clear for anyone to see.
phildw Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 34 minutes ago, Bernieboots76 said: That was a really poor start to the season and to be honest not a complete surprise there were times in the first half were we went in for tackles and not winning them just like last week against United. We need to sort out who is going to partner Drinkwater in the middle because I just don't think him and King make a effective partnership long term, we do need a ball winner that is clear for anyone to see.
phildw Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 48 minutes ago, LeiFosse 06 said: I think also which wasn't ideal for us today was the unknownness about Hull. We know their situation, but what came with it was difficult to tactially play against. Claudio is renowned for his tactical ability but today it would of been harder to analyse Hull as their personal, shape and tactics were all different most likely to what you'd expect of a newly promoted team. The fact they haven't invested in their squad made their lads stick together even more. Whereas if we play teams such as Everton, Stoke, Arsenal etc you know what you're more likely getting, making it easier to set up against and analyse tactially. He knew that they would be playing 2 makeshift very slow but strong tackling centre backs who were just going to sit deep and defend for their lives. So using last seasons long ball behind the defence for the so called quickest two attackers in the Prem was never going to work. I though it it was a pretty poor tactical starting line up against what was a blatantly obvious Hull tactical formation that everybody knew they would play as they only had 11 players to realistically choose from.
dylanlegend Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 People are making a lot of only playing 2 CMs without Kante is difficult. I tend to agree to a degree but I think Albrighton was also a big miss as he puts in a decent shift whereas Gray and Mahrez just want to attack
gurru991 Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 One loss & CR is a tactical disaster !! At least wait till half time against Arsenal before trashing the Coach
splinterdream Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 1 hour ago, Foxesmints said: Dropping both Albrighton & Okazaki today was a huge mistake. They are two of our hardest working players, link up defence/midfield/attack and whilst never being the star player put in 7/8 out of 10 performances every week. I would bring them both back in for the Arsenal game, play Hernandez at right back and Mendy alongside Drinkwater. Sorted. Albrighton was gash in pre-season and Gray needs match time. I thought starting Musa was a mistake against a team likely to sit back though
fuchsntf Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 1 hour ago, ARTY_FOX said: It wasn't even just the defending or that kante was missing. Going forward we just didn't seem like the Leicester of last year. There was something missing. Space to run into, and no movement when we had the ball, so the driving forward was curtailed by Hull playing deep..
Grewks Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 3 hours ago, FIF said: Do you still think Hernandez is keeping the CB role Maybe you'll finally accept that Huth is king (not the Andy variety). What on earth is your issue? I've never said that Huth should not be first choice, unless we keptt a clean sheet and played well. To single out Hernandez, aftEr he made his debut between terribly performing Morgan and Simpson, is harsh. If we dropped players based on performance and the mistakes they makwe then Hernandez, at the very least, would bestarting at rigt back against Arsenal. Today Fuchs > Hernandez > Morgan > Simpson
Grewks Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 1 hour ago, Foxesmints said: Dropping both Albrighton & Okazaki today was a huge mistake. They are two of our hardest working players, link up defence/midfield/attack and whilst never being the star player put in 7/8 out of 10 performances every week. I would bring them both back in for the Arsenal game, play Hernandez at right back and Mendy alongside Drinkwater. Sorted. I dont rate albrighton, but i really rate Okazaki. If anyone went to villa last year they would see why. Imo if you play Musa and Vardy through the middle then albrighton has to play. whereas if you play Gray and Mahrez outwide, Okazaki has tO be in the side. If Okazaki started, we wouldn't have lost today.
Carl the Llama Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 I think it's pretty obvious what went wrong - I can't find a Rachel thread anywhere.
Grewks Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 As for the posts about missing Kante, i didnt see it that way to be honest. It was a lack of quality rather than anything else.
Donut Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 1 minute ago, Grewks said: As for the posts about missing Kante, i didnt see it that way to be honest. It was a lack of quality rather than anything else. We wouldnt have missed so many tackles in midfield with Kante on the pitch. At times they ran through us easily. But hes gone. Cant cry over spilt milk.
Mythyaar Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 We were pedestrian in midfield. Outrun and out battled. Andy King or Daniel Amartey are not the answer.
Guest Col city fan Posted 13 August 2016 Posted 13 August 2016 15 minutes ago, Grewks said: As for the posts about missing Kante, i didnt see it that way to be honest. It was a lack of quality rather than anything else. Did you not see the position that Snodgrass scored the winner from? Edge of the area, loose ball, completely unmarked with all the time he needed to pick his spot? It was like going back two seasons ago. Conceding that type of goal is worrying (as I said two seasons ago)...it shows the lack of defensive awareness in the midfield.
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