kingfox Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Those two halves told you everything. First half for the first 25 minutes we were the better side, after the goal we went to pot. Same as Liverpool, United players picking up pockets of space, players not tracking runners *cough Amartey*, Pogba ran the show until half time. Second half, change of formation, we score a goal, we don't concede. 4-4-2 will work in some games not in others, 4-3-3 is the way forward against the big teams in my opinion. As for Amartey he is a good player on his day, against Swansea he did everything we wanted from him, not as effective against Burnley but he still played well. You just can't throw him in a 4-4-2 formation against the likes of Liverpool & Man Utd, he can't contend with quick movement. As for positives, Drinkwater was the stand out player again, Gray was a beast in the second half.
Guest ttfn Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Taking out the 20 minutes when United battered us we actually played ok. A great example of how goals change games and the ease with which they scored their first from a corner (and for that matter the 3rd and 4th) emphasises again the need for attention to detail and how the small things just aren't being done properly at the moment.
Buzzell Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Time for Gray to start. He looks hungry to start and nows the time to get him involved.
Keith Wellers Tights Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 14 minutes ago, ashfosse said: 'Ranieri out' comments also massively embarrassing We won the ****ing league. WYS Not a great start but we were shipping goals the start of last season and Ranieri sorted it out. Fortunately we were out scoring teams then though. Any 'Ranieri out' comments are beyond contemptable
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Was like our defenders of set pieces had just started playing with each other today. To let three set piece goals in is just embarrassing. Marking and attempts to get near the ball were not even there. Can't blame Zieler as it hasn't been much better under Kasper either at set pieces. Amartey offers little again today. Can barely move,and seems to panic with the ball. Drinky is having to do two jobs and I can remember him making more tackles than Amartey. Clearly obvious that 442 does no longer work away from home. We get over run time and time again. Surely we have to change to a 433 or 451 or 352. Schlupp came on and although he is still rusty from injury looked like he had forgotten how to control or pass the ball. Mahrez and Vardy going off is a good thing so they're saved for Tuesday. I don't think Slimani had the best of games although service and movement around him were questionable too. Was only 4-1 as they took their foot of the gas second half. Let's not be encouraged by second half... We weren't better just were not tested. Only shining light was Demari Gray and even his goal in the future might be forgotten about due to result of the game. Possibly worst defensively I have ever seen us play. Lower league team could defend crosses better
SecretPro Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Absolute toilet today. How the likes of Schlupp is getting the nod ahead of others is criminal. Don't care what anyone says, he's shite. Mind you, not his fault today, everybody was shite. Utter shite. Why we are still trying to play 442 against better opposition is beyond me. Been crying out for 5 in midfield the moment Kante left and we didn't replace him.
fazzyfox Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Thinking of the fans coming out of the stadium and setting off on their long, long journey home. Thinking of the City fans as well.
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 It was clear what was wrong today for anyone who wanted to see. 1. Amartey in terms of his vision of the game resembles a league one player. Who cares he's 'only 21'. What do we do, leak goals like a sieve until he IS old enough? 2. Drinkwater is knackered. God only knows why he played for so long on Tuesday. 3. The rank midfield today put pressure on the back four who were put under wave after wave of attack for about 30 mins and crumbled. The goals conceded from set pieces WAS the fault of the defenders. That shouldn't happen. 4. Vardy and Slimani were not on each others wave length. When all the stats tell you that Vardy is at his best when Shinji is playing, I'm not sure why the latter has ever been dropped. 5. Gray was exceptional apart from just keeping his head up more. 6. King is average at this level...always has been. Conclusion: The club have fooked up good and proper by not signing better centre mids in the summer UNLESS Mendy is good? A three man midfield is the only way to go against the top sides away from home We'll be OK..we are good at home. Away from home, in a 442 we are being ripped to fookin shreds.
SecretPro Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 2 minutes ago, Col city fan said: It was clear what was wrong today for anyone who wanted to see. 1. Amartey in terms of his vision of the game resembles a league one player. Who cares he's 'only 21'. What do we do, leak goals like a sieve until he IS old enough? 2. Drinkwater is knackered. God only knows why he played for so long on Tuesday. 3. The rank midfield today put pressure on the back four who were put under wave after wave of attack for about 30 mins and crumbled. The goals conceded from set pieces WAS the fault of the defenders. That shouldn't happen. 4. Vardy and Slimani were not on each others wave length. When all the stats tell you that Vardy is at his best when Shinji is playing, I'm not sure why the latter has ever been dropped. 5. Gray was exceptional apart from just keeping his head up more. 6. King is average at this level...always has been. Conclusion: The club have fooked up good and proper by not signing better centre mids in the summer UNLESS Mendy is good? A three man midfield is the only way to go against the top sides away from home We'll be OK..we are good at home. Away from home, in a 442 we are being ripped to fookin shreds. Agree Col except Vardy, though he was shit today and very lazy, looked disinterested, laughing at 4-0 down, yes service was poor but his first touch and passing today were non existent. He isn't unstoppable and I don't want him getting too big for his boots. Nothing wrong with Slim, service to him was dreadful and he made it known, gave ppl a bollocking and showed his frustration.
EGBFitness Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 9 minutes ago, evostic said: There was I agree. There was always a chance Man U would take their foot off the gas at half-time so prob worth keeping Vardy on at least to see how it goes for 15 mins or so. A bit of a fight-back would have been a confidence booster for mid-week. Amartey appeared quick to blame when at fault. As someone else said, how many lessons do we need ? On to Tuesday That's it true, it's easy to blame pre-season or whatever but lessons should have been learnt by now and we shouldn't be losing in the style we have been. Ive tried to reserve judgement on Amartey but he is absent in every game played, it's easy to suggest a change in formation but if your effectively playing with 1 in the middle of the park anyways why should you sacrifice other positions to cover a position not being used effectively? We will have to see what Mendy brings when he is back but we definitely have a problem in the middle of the park
EGBFitness Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Reminds me of the goal he scored against us for Birmingham last pre season
HankMarvin Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 3 minutes ago, Col city fan said: It was clear what was wrong today for anyone who wanted to see. 1. Amartey in terms of his vision of the game resembles a league one player. Who cares he's 'only 21'. What do we do, leak goals like a sieve until he IS old enough? 2. Drinkwater is knackered. God only knows why he played for so long on Tuesday. 3. The rank midfield today put pressure on the back four who were put under wave after wave of attack for about 30 mins and crumbled. The goals conceded from set pieces WAS the fault of the defenders. That shouldn't happen. 4. Vardy and Slimani were not on each others wave length. When all the stats tell you that Vardy is at his best when Shinji is playing, I'm not sure why the latter has ever been dropped. 5. Gray was exceptional apart from just keeping his head up more. 6. King is average at this level...always has been. Conclusion: The club have fooked up good and proper by not signing better centre mids in the summer UNLESS Mendy is good? A three man midfield is the only way to go against the top sides away from home We'll be OK..we are good at home. Away from home, in a 442 we are being ripped to fookin shreds. maybe hoping having slimani playing would help Mahrez performances, dont understand the logic of Musa being our second record signing and not getting a sniff? shouldve been on the 2nd half at least - if match fit
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 We need a right back a centre back and a mobile midfielder in the Jan transfer window we need a change in tactics for the big away games, come on City we ARE Champions
coolhandfox Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Paying for poor recruitment in the summer, always strengthen when you are on top! Only one signing has strengthen the side, the rest have been squad fillers! We needed a quality midfield player and a quality centre half. We got nether......
DelBoy73 Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 That is a very positive result, because at last it is the end of 4-4-2 away. Talk of a game of two halves. 3 men in the middle is the way to go with the personnel we have at our disposal, as proved in the second half. Claudio will never have any valid excuse if he dares to use once again a two-men midfield, and i don't think he will ever try again that formation away from home, unless he signs a proper quality MD in January, but those are scarce in the market, hence why so few team are fool enough to play a 4-4-2 away...
Gazza M Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Time for a fresh approach away from home now. We need to just grind out a result. We aren't relegation fodder, but we need to go to these games and be harder to beat. We have some quality and will score, but please no 4-4-2 in these games for a while. We have learnt the hard way.
WigstonWanderer Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 4 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Agree Col except Vardy, though he was shit today and very lazy, looked disinterested, laughing at 4-0 down, yes service was poor but his first touch and passing today were non existent. He isn't unstoppable and I don't want him getting too big for his boots. Nothing wrong with Slim, service to him was dreadful and he made it known, gave ppl a bollocking and showed his frustration. Don't know what's happened to Vardy. Probably has too much money to be bothered much now.
RastaDog Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 I think I'm going to watch Gray's goal again.... and again.... and again. It's a cracker.
Donut Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 14 minutes ago, Facecloth said: We let them onto us and tried to break, that's what we always do. In the most part we did soak it up, but we were an absolute shambles from corners. If you're going to invite a team to attack you can't defend set plays like that. Being switched on at corners and we come out of that with a draw or narrow defeat, but instead braindead defending has given us a shallacking. Its the same players who defended set plays so well in the second half of last season, it's not the personel, it's that they need waking up. It's not the formation, it's not the loss of Kante, that meant Rashford was all alone a yard out for a ball across the 6 yard box, or that Smalling and Pogba got easy headers. They made LOADS of chances in open play. It wasnt just the corners. Pogba's effort that had Zieler at full stretch Ibra's mis timed volley early on Ibra's volley over the bar after Pogba's chipped pass Ibra's shot in the 2nd half that Zieler tipped around the post Rashford fluffing his lines on the breakaway All the attacking play that led to the corners too To say the formation isnt an issue when we have played several big teams this season and got thumped is a bit ridiculous. Teams have willing runners everywhere getting in on our back 4 and that was with Drinkwater putting in lots of tackles. It was a shit performance that only improved when Man Utd coasted through the 2nd half and there have been far too many abject performances this season already to not take notice and make some changes.
FoxonMaui Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 Hopefully Claudio has now learned his lesson after two 4-1 defeats away from home. We cannot play 442 against the top teams this year. Simple. Second half we looked pretty comfortable defending, shut down the wide open passing lanes and had a platform to get into the game. Gray should start the Porto game, anything else would send a terrible message.
dedlock Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 5 minutes ago, EGBFitness said: Reminds me of the goal he scored against us for Birmingham last pre season Just what I thought
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 6 minutes ago, Donut said: They made LOADS of chances in open play. It wasnt just the corners. Pogba's effort that had Zieler at full stretch Ibra's mis timed volley early on Ibra's volley over the bar after Pogba's chipped pass Ibra's shot in the 2nd half that Zieler tipped around the post Rashford fluffing his lines on the breakaway All the attacking play that led to the corners too To say the formation isnt an issue when we have played several big teams this season and got thumped is a bit ridiculous. Teams have willing runners everywhere getting in on our back 4 and that was with Drinkwater putting in lots of tackles. It was a shit performance that only improved when Man Utd coasted through the 2nd half and there have been far too many abject performances this season already to not take notice and make some changes. Spot on.... The chances they made were so many... It was like watching Pearson's Leicester until the final 7 games. Edit...in fact, under Pearson we were actually a bit less open than that today to be fair.
FennecsForum Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 RUN RANIERI ! RUN BETTER DROP THE ECL OR FINISH BOTTOM 3
Mark Posted 24 September 2016 Posted 24 September 2016 4 minutes ago, FoxonMaui said: Gray should start the Porto game, anything else would send a terrible message. Well best prepare yourself for it as he's not going to drop either of the goalscorers from the last match.
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