Callabinho Posted 4 October 2016 Posted 4 October 2016 We don't stand a chance. Ranieri will play 4-4-2 and the only change will probably Be Mendy to replace Amartey. Our static lifeless back four will be horribly exposed as will our pitiful attempts at defending set plays. We've been like lambs to slaughter at all of the "top teams" back yards so far and this will be no different.... I can't see anything other than another heavy away defeat, and another post match interview where Ranieri says they are excellent we made mistakes but it's okay bad times will happen....dreading this one.
RoyFox Posted 4 October 2016 Posted 4 October 2016 On 3 October 2016 at 12:26, Foxin hell said: Kasper Simpson Morgan Huth Fuchs Mahrez Drinkwater Mendy Gray Slimani Okazaki This and Okazaki plays almost as a midfielder, 451 when we defend, 442 when we attack. Okazaki to give us 60 mins of insane pressing, if only Vardy had an ounce of his self sacrifice this season?
RoyFox Posted 4 October 2016 Posted 4 October 2016 On 3 October 2016 at 20:43, Koke said: Remember 2 years ago we played Dean Hammond and Gary Taylor Fletcher in midfield away to Chelsea. I'm amazed Chelsea only won 2-0 that day. They ran away with the league that year 1Schmeichel 2de Laet 5Morgan 18Moore 3Konchesky 26MahrezSubstituted forAlbrightonat 68'minutes 10King 7HammondBooked at 51minsSubstituted forTaylor-Fletcherat 73'minutes 15Schlupp 35Nugent 23UlloaSubstituted forWoodat 84'minutes That defence
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 4 October 2016 Posted 4 October 2016 3 hours ago, FoxinNotts said: Yes, you'd think so. But that would mean dropping a striker (he defo won't go three at the back), so will it be Vardy or Slimani? Drop Vardy at present
brucey Posted 4 October 2016 Posted 4 October 2016 Claudio hinted at making many more changes in his post match. Think Slim may be dropped for Chelsea and played against Copenhagen, which is of a higher priority. Slim is apparently too knackered to train for Algeria today after playing Southampton 2 days ago. He may well rest Vardy for this as well, in order to play his usual favourite XI vs Copenhagen. But if he does that then there's no proper striker left to play. Musa's speed may counter Kante but he's not ready yet. Ulloa/Oka bit too slow and leaves a 2 man midfield. Though really only care about the CL tbh, and the upcoming Copenhagen double header. It's a 3 horse race for 2 spots atm, seems like all 3 teams are set to take 6 pts from Brugge, their coach seems to have given up on the CL in interviews saying Brugge is not at CL level and they will prioritise the domestic league. Slim crippling their best defender only made it easier for the other two teams to collect their pts from Brugge. Makes Copenhagen home absolutely crucial, then avoid messing up at Brugge home, Porto meanwhile seems to have hit form in their league.
erlee Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 03:04, Koke said: If we go 442 we will get slaughtered again. If Mendy is back I'd go 433 Drinkwater - Mendy - Amartey Mahrez - Slimani - Albrighton take out Albrighton & we 're good to go
foxes21 Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 I just can't see 4-3-3 working without two box to box cm's. However if Amartey can do what he did in this video more regularly, then yes 4-3-3 could be a good system to use. I haven't seen a lung busting run like this from him yet, apart from the late run into the box at Sunderland away last season where he nearly scored.
TJB-fox Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 4 hours ago, Callabinho said: We don't stand a chance. Ranieri will play 4-4-2 and the only change will probably Be Mendy to replace Amartey. Our static lifeless back four will be horribly exposed as will our pitiful attempts at defending set plays. We've been like lambs to slaughter at all of the "top teams" back yards so far and this will be no different.... I can't see anything other than another heavy away defeat, and another post match interview where Ranieri says they are excellent we made mistakes but it's okay bad times will happen....dreading this one. Have you listen to his last couple of post match interviews?
Aidan Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 08:16, CityFan 06 said: That's a very good formation there with a lot of potential. I actually think that formation could suit our system well. Good formation except replace Simpson with Hernandez.
Aidan Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 10 hours ago, biggs said: Would love to see Mahrez allowed the freedom to move left to right behind the forward(s). His talent needs more time on the ball Exactly!
sk3since03 Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Always said dont change a winning formula but at the minute league wise were looking average! The Tinkerman needs to get tinkering and get this team rotated and freshened up! Let players know theyre places arent as safe as they would maybe like to think. Would be nice to see Kaputska, Musa and even Benny in the squad at some point! Oh and Shinji needs to start this one
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Pardon my ignorance but have we got another one of those fookin pointless international breaks this weekend? Malta?
TrentFox Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 8 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Pardon my ignorance but have we got another one of those fookin pointless international breaks this weekend? Malta? Any international involving England is pointless. We already know we're crap. Why do we need to keep finding teams to play to prove a point that's already been proven? We should retire from international football and let the big boys get on with it.
sl27 Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 433 defence Drinkwater - Mendy - Amartey / Albrighton Mahrez/Gray - Slimani/Okazaki - Musa/Kapustka
norwichfox Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Do we know yet which player Costa will get sent off....it could have a big bearing on the result
Fox92 Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 59 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Pardon my ignorance but have we got another one of those fookin pointless international breaks this weekend? Malta? It's a qualifier though so it's not pointless.
lcfcdamo Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Same back 5 with Amartey mendy and drinkwater midfield 3 with gray Mahrez each side of slimani whos up top will be solid in midfield then if he goes 442 and we get battered again some serious questions needs to be asked surely he wont go with 442 against these though
jaqo88 Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 On 10/4/2016 at 06:43, Koke said: Remember 2 years ago we played Dean Hammond and Gary Taylor Fletcher in midfield away to Chelsea. I'm amazed Chelsea only won 2-0 that day. They ran away with the league that year 1Schmeichel 2de Laet 5Morgan 18Moore 3Konchesky 26MahrezSubstituted forAlbrightonat 68'minutes 10King 7HammondBooked at 51minsSubstituted forTaylor-Fletcherat 73'minutes 15Schlupp 35Nugent 23UlloaSubstituted forWoodat 84'minutes I remember Nugent missing a crucial 1 on 1 as well, how did we even get close with that team ?!?!
Ted Maul Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Hopefully Mendy is fit again. 2 CMs this season just isn't going to work. Schmeichel Simpson Morgan Huth Fuchs Amartey Mendy Drinkwater Mahrez Gray Slimani Having Amartey screening the back 4 should stop him wandering out and leaving a hole in behind our midfield, as he seems to do too often. An extra body in midfield should stop teams getting through the middle at will and put the defence under less pressure, which will make them look a lot more assured. It should also allow Mendy or Drinkwater to close down out wide when required without leaving us too exposed, and could give Mahrez & Gray a bit more freedom to express themselves at the right end of the pitch. If Mendy's not fit, I wouldn't be too against King getting a game- I'd feel a lot more comfortable with him in a midfield 3, with others helping him on the defensive side and giving him licence to get forward and do what he does best. The only issue may be not having 2 up front, but with Mahrez & Gray playing slightly further forward we should be able to adjust.
FraserSorensen Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 2 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: The only issue may be not having 2 up front, but with Mahrez & Gray playing slightly further forward we should be able to adjust. Having one up front is fine, but we need runners to be playing further up the field when the long ball is played over the top to be taking the knock downs from CF (either Slimani or Ulloa). I remember being at OT seeing Slimani screaming at Gray and Schlupp for not picking up ball from headers that he was working so hard to bring down to them. This happened nearly every time the ball was pumped forwards. If Gray/Albrighton and Mahrez can pick these up then 4-5-1 can work, it just seems like it never works when the players fail to adjust their game to suit the formation.
kingcarr21 Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Kasper Simpson Huth Morgan Fuchs Mahrez Drinkwater King Amartey Albrighton Slimani
Ted Maul Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 2 minutes ago, FraserSorensen said: Having one up front is fine, but we need runners to be playing further up the field when the long ball is played over the top to be taking the knock downs from CF (either Slimani or Ulloa). I remember being at OT seeing Slimani screaming at Gray and Schlupp for not picking up ball from headers that he was working so hard to bring down to them. This happened nearly every time the ball was pumped forwards. If Gray/Albrighton and Mahrez can pick these up then 4-5-1 can work, it just seems like it never works when the players fail to adjust their game to suit the formation. We need to make sure we're making the transitions from defence to attack as quick as possible, and vice versa. Last season there was always someone sprinting into space whenever we got the ball, this season we're having to turn back and mess about with it around the back 4.
FraserSorensen Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Just now, Ted Maul said: We need to make sure we're making the transitions from defence to attack as quick as possible, and vice versa. Last season there was always someone sprinting into space whenever we got the ball, this season we're having to turn back and mess about with it around the back 4. Exactly. Last season there was a desire to release a ball as soon as it was intercepted. Every PL team knows this is our game but when it's executed well there's nothing they can do to stop it. This season we just can't seem to release the ball quick enough. There is an argument that CB are wising up and dealing with a lot of balls played forwards. Fonte and Van Dijk stood up well and dealt with most balls that came their way, and Vardy's game of standing off and gambling for a knockdown just didn't work for much of the afternoon. But totally agree, pace of releasing the ball has dramatically dipped and we seem caught in two minds, not sure where to go, no creative movement ahead of the ball and when we finally decide to move the ball forwards, the opposition have re-grouped and put bodies behind the ball and we have no end product.
tsintskaro Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Mendy is no 4-4-2 player,i doubt Ranieri did not know it. He and Drinky are more creative then other ones.Drinky is all alone and he is struggling a lot,he was calling teammates to back down because it was hard to give proper pass and all those long balls to Vardy should stop,it doesnt work,really Second Drinky type passer would be such a relief Amartey staying behind these two and helping defense 3 men in centre should work for a while and in winter transfer window there will be new signing incoming i think
lcfcdamo Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 2 hours ago, Ted Maul said: Hopefully Mendy is fit again. 2 CMs this season just isn't going to work. Schmeichel Simpson Morgan Huth Fuchs Amartey Mendy Drinkwater Mahrez Gray Slimani Having Amartey screening the back 4 should stop him wandering out and leaving a hole in behind our midfield, as he seems to do too often. An extra body in midfield should stop teams getting through the middle at will and put the defence under less pressure, which will make them look a lot more assured. It should also allow Mendy or Drinkwater to close down out wide when required without leaving us too exposed, and could give Mahrez & Gray a bit more freedom to express themselves at the right end of the pitch. If Mendy's not fit, I wouldn't be too against King getting a game- I'd feel a lot more comfortable with him in a midfield 3, with others helping him on the defensive side and giving him licence to get forward and do what he does best. The only issue may be not having 2 up front, but with Mahrez & Gray playing slightly further forward we should be able to adjust. 100% really want to see that team then musa can replace gray or Mahrez about 60 mins and a fresh vardy to come on for the last 30 for slimani this team makes so much sense gives Mahrez and gray abit more freedom and makes us more solid with a midfield 3
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