Col city fan Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 4 minutes ago, lgfualol said: Feel sorry for him, as service is non-existent, but then I wonder if he is the reason. I think we have a mentality that if he is on the pitch with Okazaki, we have to play only long balls or quick passes in the channels which every team in England knows about now. Vardy obviously hasn't helped by not running as much, but he is getting older which makes his 100k a week seem great. Slimani comes on and we know long balls over the top and in the channels wont work with him (although he can probably do that role, fast as a big man), so start passing along the ground, with quick exchanges to whip a cross in WITH SOMEONE ACTUALLY BEING AIMED AT and defences struggle. He is a big guy but he can also move quite quickly, and links up well. Vardy and Slimani still could work, but right now it's Slimani and either Okazaki/Gray/Mahrez behind him for me. He has nothing to feed off. King and Amartey will never supply him with great through balls. And Mahrez, frankly this season has been fookin shite. I mean that...he's been absolutely awful in the league. If we didn't know what he could play like, (if we had signed Mahrez THIS season) we'd all be thinking wtf have we signed this chump for. It is AMAZING how the league player of the season, last year, can go off as much as this. In fact, it's embaressing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 2 minutes ago, ttfn said: Slimani's movement is a million times better than Vardy's at the moment. He's successfully pulling centre backs around, which even if he's not scoring is at least benefiting the team. Vardy is offering literally nothing at the moment. It's all well and good saying he doesn't get any service but in the time he's not scored Slimani has scored 5 and Okazaki 4. Even Musa's got 2 goals. We look like a much better side without him in it and before Boro scored their second against the run of the play we were starting to play some decent stuff around the edge of the box. Pretty much this. The lack of service statement doesn't hold much weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 Just now, ealingfox said: I thought this until last week but it's a two-way street. He isn't making half the runs he was making last season and he isn't doing as much pressing either. A lot of the time he's stood around in the oppo half waiting for a pass that isn't coming. As I said earlier he's playing like Beckford did for us. No (or when it does come, unintelligent) movement, poor touch, little pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 We just have so many problems. Maybe Vardy's efforts will increase when he starts advertising his book for Christmas. I might buy it and lob it in a pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 1 minute ago, Col city fan said: He has nothing to feed off. King and Amartey will never supply him with great through balls. And Mahrez, frankly this season has been fookin shite. I mean that...he's been absolutely awful in the league. If we didn't know what he could play like, (if we had signed Mahrez THIS season) we'd all be thinking wtf have we signed this chump for. It is AMAZING how the league player of the season, last year, can go off as much as this. In fact, it's embaressing, Luckily he's contributed far more than Vardy this season then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 Just now, SecretPro said: Luckily he's contributed far more than Vardy this season then. How has Mahrez contributed 'far more'? In what way? Or is this yet another throwaway statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 11 minutes ago, shade said: i still maintain we're creating absolutely nothing for him at all, his form is a symptom of our team performance, not the cause. The same with slimani. The only deference is that slim can score from half a chance. And it seems that slim have a better work rate then vards atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 Just now, Col city fan said: How has Mahrez contributed 'far more'? In what way? Or is this yet another throwaway statement. Erm?..... Goals and match winning performances in the Champions league. Goals in the prem from the penalty spot. Some assists. Some times a flash of effort and skill. What has Vardy done? Don't put it down to service being as Musa, Oka and Slim have all bagged. How much effort is he putting in? At least SOMETIMES mahrez looks mildy arsed. This blind faith in Vardy is letting us down, how long do you persist with him? Seriously? He's done naff all. Can't dine out on last season for the rest of this one. No point attacking Mahrez when he is having to defend so much too, in a team like Chelsea he would be a world beater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAprice_ Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 This is more like the Jamie Vardy thread of 2012. And so the football merry-go-round goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 No service, no Vardy Andy King and Amertey, do not have the ability of DD, so how was he able to get some service. Mahrez is going through some mid life crisis. All in all, we are fooked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 8 minutes ago, Col city fan said: He has nothing to feed off. King and Amartey will never supply him with great through balls. And Mahrez, frankly this season has been fookin shite. I mean that...he's been absolutely awful in the league. If we didn't know what he could play like, (if we had signed Mahrez THIS season) we'd all be thinking wtf have we signed this chump for. It is AMAZING how the league player of the season, last year, can go off as much as this. In fact, it's embaressing, Yeah. A chump with 7 goals( I know. 5 pens). 2 assists. 4 goals and an assists out of the 7 goals that the team scored in the CL. At least 3 game wining displays and 3 MOTMs. You are talking like he did nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 5 minutes ago, Col city fan said: How has Mahrez contributed 'far more'? In what way? Or is this yet another throwaway statement. Mahrez has been bagging penalties col. Seems on here if Nugent bagged they did not count. But everyone by Mahez is a mega finish. I really thought you had been on here long enough to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 3 minutes ago, the fox said: Yeah. A chump with 7 goals( I know. 5 pens). 2 assists. 4 goals and an assists out of the 7 goals that the team scored in the CL. At least 3 game wining displays and 3 MOTMs. You are talking like he did nothing Absolutely this. Don't disagree with you often Col but this is a Vardy thread and to come on here and claim Mahrez is worse, given the obvious difference in contribution is just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 Vardy's touch map for today's game + no shots. A bit off thread but does this tool have a pathological hatred of us or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 12 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Absolutely this. Don't disagree with you often Col but this is a Vardy thread and to come on here and claim Mahrez is worse, given the obvious difference in contribution is just plain wrong. I'm comparing Mahrez of this season with Mahrez of last season. Completely different player. And I mean, completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 Why's he playing out wide all of a sudden, he kept doing it Tuesday. It's like watching him for England, out of position, getting no service because of those two points ultimately useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsell1976 Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 No service, lost his appetite due to the service, in a team that isn't performing, but again with this said, if we are not playing the same as last season, he needs to adapt his game, come deeper and looking at taking on the defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinmyhouse Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 42 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Erm?..... Goals and match winning performances in the Champions league. Goals in the prem from the penalty spot. Some assists. Some times a flash of effort and skill. What has Vardy done? Don't put it down to service being as Musa, Oka and Slim have all bagged. How much effort is he putting in? At least SOMETIMES mahrez looks mildy arsed. This blind faith in Vardy is letting us down, how long do you persist with him? Seriously? He's done naff all. Can't dine out on last season for the rest of this one. No point attacking Mahrez when he is having to defend so much too, in a team like Chelsea he would be a world beater Mahez has been scoring the penalties vardy has been winning. Maybe vardy should start taking the penalties he wins to get people off his back over this goal drought, as harry kane did this season. If he had taken the pens and now had 7 goals would people suddenly say hes played well. Although he hasn't played as poorly as people make out this season. He has won penalties, he has won free kicks from good individual runs that have resulted in goals, he has set up good chances for others that have then been missed. Overall this season the service to him has been shocking, im sure the 2 goals he has scored have been from passes from the opposing team rather then a Leicester player. Wasnt there a stat that said mahez had only made one pass to him in 6 weeks. There are times he makes a run but the pass never comes or is over hit. Up until last week when swansea were bottom, on average this season they still had a better pass completion rate, more possession , more tackles, more interceptions, more chances created, more shots etc per match. This just shows how bad we have been as a whole this season in the league, I think the main problem is the midfield and nothing will change until this is sorted out. I could understand the vardy criticism if we were actually creating lots of chances and he was missing but we are not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 1 minute ago, foxinmyhouse said: Mahez has been scoring the penalties vardy has been winning. Maybe vardy should start taking the penalties he wins to get people off his back over this goal drought, as harry kane did this season. If he had taken the pens and now had 7 goals would people suddenly say hes played well. Although he hasn't played as poorly as people make out this season. He has won penalties, he has won free kicks from good individual runs that have resulted in goals, he has set up good chances for others that have then been missed. Overall this season the service to him has been shocking, im sure the 2 goals he has scored have been from passes from the opposing team rather then a Leicester player. Wasnt there a stat that said mahez had only made one pass to him in 6 weeks. There are times he makes a run but the pass never comes or is over hit. Up until last week when swansea were bottom, on average this season they still had a better pass completion rate, more possession , more tackles, more interceptions, more chances created, more shots etc per match. This just shows how bad we have been as a whole this season in the league, I think the main problem is the midfield and nothing will change until this is sorted out. I could understand the vardy criticism if we were actually creating lots of chances and he was missing but we are not . Agree with many of those points but Slimani goal record this season hadn't been shabby at all. Still all of the same factors in play as above. Vardy hasn't been good enough. 8 touches today. No commitment to track back, closing down. No appetite for the chase and looks like he's lost a yard to me too. Don't think we should be blindly playing him waiting for him to find form when we do have Slimani who still manages to find the net on occasion. Service certainly has been poor but Vardy doesn't help himself, he's expecting the service he had last season but it's not possible because other teams are now wise to it. If he isn't a one trick pony he needs to work harder on finding another way to get the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 `Part of Vardy not getting the service is because he doesn't make the runs or create possession for himself and the team like he used to. Half hearted jumps to balls up to him and jogs around up top rather than putting the fear of god into defenders and winning possession and territory from seemingly lost causes. Doesn't look motivated at all. Bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 1 minute ago, Mike Oxlong said: `Part of Vardy not getting the service is because he doesn't make the runs or create possession for himself and the team like he used to. Half hearted jumps to balls up to him and jogs around up top rather than putting the fear of god into defenders and winning possession and territory from seemingly lost causes. Doesn't look motivated at all. Bench. He made runs at two different times but both Albrighton and Mahrez kept hold of the ball instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 1 hour ago, Col city fan said: I'm comparing Mahrez of this season with Mahrez of last season. Completely different player. And I mean, completely different. It's very odd that two of our three best players, have frozen this season. The third joined Chelsea. It's also very worrying, that collectively we are not even a shadow of last season's wonderful side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 3 minutes ago, Fox92 said: He made runs at two different times but both Albrighton and Mahrez kept hold of the ball instead. Wow! Two whole times! Not every run he makes is going to be picked out by a through ball. You make enough good ones and eventually somebody will find you. Yet again, both the quantity and quality of his movement when we had possession was sorely lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxtillidrop Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 Is Vardy injured? Does he have a long-term groin injury? Clearly not moving as much or with the same intensity as in previous seasons. In his book he said he hardly trained during the great escape - had to have injections to get through the games. Just doesn't seem like the same player at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 26 November 2016 Share Posted 26 November 2016 7 minutes ago, ttfn said: Wow! Two whole times! Not every run he makes is going to be picked out by a through ball. You make enough good ones and eventually somebody will find you. Yet again, both the quantity and quality of his movement when we had possession was sorely lacking. I'm guessing Vardy is possibly not running as much because he knows the through balls ARENT coming. Our midfield creativity is fookin awful this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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