1972 Fox Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 18 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: And a ball playing centre half... Can we afford the very overrated and overhyped John Stones?
AmarteyAndChill Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 1 minute ago, Blue Fox 72 said: Can we afford the very overrated and overhyped John Stones? Read it again? I said ball playing 'centre half'. Not sure what John stones is meant to be.
the fox Posted 15 December 2016 Author Posted 15 December 2016 13 minutes ago, davieG said: Shlupp at LB then This is the kind of idea that looks great on paper but awful on the pitch
Harry - LCFC Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 We played the same way last season, both Fuchs and Simpson were tasked with defending the box and had only a limited offensive role. This worked extremely well. We should have enough to score goals without them but too many of our attacking players are off form or suspended.
Babylon Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 22 minutes ago, Bayfox said: NO just NO, when RDL played we conceded 5, a week later we changed it and went on to win the league, the only real part RDL played in that was his goal v Villa, that's about it. Well we've already conceded 4 against United, 4 against Liverpool (could have been about 20), 3 against Chelsea... 2 against West Brom, Watford, Boro, Sunderland. We've conceded 27 goals... that's exactly the same as we conceded in our first season in this division after 16 games with Konch, De Laet, Moore, Hammond etc. So quite clearly, the defensive system is no longer working, neither is the attacking one.
Innovindil Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 12 minutes ago, Harry - LCFC said: We played the same way last season, both Fuchs and Simpson were tasked with defending the box and had only a limited offensive role. This worked extremely well. We should have enough to score goals without them but too many of our attacking players are off form or suspended. It isn't about us playing the same way as last season for crying out loud. It's about OTHER teams playing differently against us. Look at man city, chatted shit and duly got banged. They played exactly like teams were playing against us last year, everyone else has learnt their lesson.
Fox92 Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 We cannot play like this without Kante who covered. It's ok for Spurs, they've got Dembele and Wanyama to sit in, but we'd be horribly exposed with our lack of midfield.
Koke Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 I watched Chelsea last night against Sunderland and Kante was a beast. People compare him to Makalele but he's got more to his game than him, Kante is better than Makalele. I miss the fella. King and Amartey combined are not fit enough to lace Kante's boots.
ZeGuy Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 30 minutes ago, Koke said: It's painful knowing that we have one of the best players in the league and he spends 2/3 of the game defending. And we finally have the ball he has 3 defenders on his arse with zero help from Simpson. I really feel sorry for Mahrez. You can see he's trying but it's too much for one man. Nah, according to some here he's just lazy and doesn't do enough for the team.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 Sorry sensible reply may be awhile, I've just seen someone say Westley Morgan is fast.
Harry - LCFC Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 19 minutes ago, Innovindil said: It isn't about us playing the same way as last season for crying out loud. It's about OTHER teams playing differently against us. Look at man city, chatted shit and duly got banged. They played exactly like teams were playing against us last year, everyone else has learnt their lesson. Everyone knew what we were about last season, they certainly did by January anyway. Our opponents will have understood and planned for our style of play last season, just as they're doing now. The difference is us, not them
Innovindil Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 4 minutes ago, Harry - LCFC said: Everyone knew what we were about last season, they certainly did by January anyway. Our opponents will have understood and planned for our style of play last season, just as they're doing now. The difference is us, not them Openly admit it or not, post January the vast majority of points we got were closely won, with the help of being in form, full of confidence with a dash of luck. We can't rely on that now and need to adapt. Simple.
ZeGuy Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 2 minutes ago, Innovindil said: Openly admit it or not, post January the vast majority of points we got were closely won, with the help of being in form, full of confidence with a dash of luck. We can't rely on that now and need to adapt. Simple. Nah, they just need to drink more red bull so they can press more. Simples.
CollinsLCFC Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Is it just me that has absolutely no interest in analysing everything to the nth degree? Firstly, there's a reason we aren't professional footballers, coaches or analysts. Secondly, it's fvcking boring. Take it you don't play Football Manager?
blue army 1988 Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 Surly Claudio would have kind of know. What formation he wanted to play and then should have got the players in to suit it in the transfer window.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 3 minutes ago, CollinsLCFC said: Take it you don't play Football Manager? Couldn't think of anything worse
Sammy Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 2 hours ago, ZeGuy said: Yeah, well now it doesn't work at all. Why people are constantly hanging on last year is beyond me. The situation has completely changed. Not trying to cling on to last year, meaning to point out that defensive full backs have provided us with defensive security both last season and this (look at how easily we were picking up clean sheets at the start of this season compared to last). I understand it's more about breaking teams down for this but for me there are more issues in the way we are going about going forward than simply overlapping our FBs.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 Used full backs this time last year and were winning 3-2 a lot. I would actually prefer this to losing with no attacking play at all like currently
AmarteyAndChill Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 1 hour ago, Koke said: I watched Chelsea last night against Sunderland and Kante was a beast. People compare him to Makalele but he's got more to his game than him, Kante is better than Makalele. I miss the fella. King and Amartey combined are not fit enough to lace Kante's boots. It's just because there both small and French. They are nothing alike. I hate it when people compare the two.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 The only way we are going to improve as a side is to have two full backs who are comfortable going forward. Fuchs is brilliant because he's equally as good defensively. Without attacking full backs of we are to easy to defend against as teams sit back, when teams sit back the space is always out wide.
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 We won the league with a solid back 4 without attacking full backs. We didnt need them to attack last year and we don't now. Great for people to say about how this season is different and teams sit back against us etc. But they did that last year too from pretty much December onwards. Why the hell would we allow our full backs to attack when only Drinkwater can pass the ball or retain possession. If you think we're conceding lots at the moment then Do you have any idea how idea how bad it would be if we had a right back and left back in the final third of the pitch without Kante to cover and with Huth trying to pass out from the back! Point being we have no players other than Drinks and Riyad who have any composure or ability to pass between the lines or retain possession. The positioning of full backs is the last thing we need to change for now. Find a midfielder alongside Drinks who asks for the ball and can play a bit and then we can look at the idea of possession based football and attacking full backs but it'd be suicide to do it now
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 2 hours ago, Babylon said: Well we've already conceded 4 against United, 4 against Liverpool (could have been about 20), 3 against Chelsea... 2 against West Brom, Watford, Boro, Sunderland. We've conceded 27 goals... that's exactly the same as we conceded in our first season in this division after 16 games with Konch, De Laet, Moore, Hammond etc. So quite clearly, the defensive system is no longer working, neither is the attacking one. Just as well the midfield is doing well then.
Bayfox Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 5 hours ago, Koke said: I watched Chelsea last night against Sunderland and Kante was a beast. People compare him to Makalele but he's got more to his game than him, Kante is better than Makalele. I miss the fella. King and Amartey combined are not fit enough to lace Kante's boots. Great but it's 2016/17 season now so get over it claudio and find a ****ing solution.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 4 hours ago, AmarteyAndChill said: It's just because there both small and French. You forgot black.
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 December 2016 Posted 15 December 2016 Utter crap. I'm of the school that 'defenders defend and attackers attack' We won the league last season (The Premiership no less ) having defenders that defended brilliantly and atttackers that took the piss. All bound up in the best midfield in the division. Kante has gone and now you're expecting Fuchs to be Roberto Carlos and Simpson, Daniel Alves. For one more time, our midfield is now shite. It's making all the difference.
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