lifted*fox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 29 minutes ago, adejo92 said: even the mince pie was sh!t. Woah, steady on mate. We're all upset this evening but don't say something you might regret.
MattCan Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 1 minute ago, Benguin said: Okay we're not doing well at the moment and Ranieri does seem to be a little lost but please remember we lifted the premier league mere months ago. If you're Chelsea or united and have to put up with appalling performances following a title win then fair enough but we Leicester city won the premier league at 5000-1 under ranieri's management. He's earnt the right to serve up at least two seasons worth of bollocks as far as i'm concerned. The issue for me and where blame needs to go is at the billy big bollock players like Mahrez, Slimani etc. They need to pull their fingers out there arse and give us some fight. Why blame Mahrez? He was not even in the fvcking starting XI? it is not his fault that most of the team players can't play football. smh
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 4 minutes ago, dannythefox said: Grey was the only playing who had a shot and attempted to take players on and cross the ball he was having a decent game. King did not warrant being subbed over albrighton and Slimani so yes it does matter he got it wrong again! How many of Gray's crosses into the box did reach any of our players? Attempting to hit the intended target is, in the end, just not good enough. The same goes for Albrighton.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 9 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: Agreed and it's not difficult to grasp why. As much as King is loyal blah blah blah and is a very nice bloke, he's simply not good enough imo. As for Amartya, should we really expect a kid who was a medium sized fish in a tiny pond to suddenly turn up and perform like a seasoned Premiership footballer. He may have improved but is out of his depth. Just as worrying is that we're about to make exactly the same mistake with a 20 yrs old kid from Genk! Great prospect maybe but Premiership ready? Really? If he's worth £15 million, wouldn't a proven individual like Sneiderlin be worth a punt? Spot on. You get a CM of Drinkwater and Sneiderlin and see the difference it would make. I'd have no qualms making it a three, with Amartey running around behind them two. But our 442 at the moment!! How many losses does it take before Ranieri realizes what is going on??
Dan Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 Depressing game. We were awful, the lack of quality genuinely frightening. 16th in the league, only three clear of the bottom three. If we stay up it's because the others are shite.
Slim Dog Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 1 minute ago, Col city fan said: Spot on. You get a CM of Drinkwater and Sneiderlin and see the difference it would make. I'd have no qualms making it a three, with Amartey running around behind them two. But our 442 at the moment!! How many losses does it take before Ranieri realizes what is going on?? We played 4-3-3 in the second half and look how that went.
yorkie1999 Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 31 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: Wait, what? We're so thin on the ground in certain areas. We must have at least 2 players for every position, but the reason were thin on the ground is half of them are pretty shit and not really premiership standard. I mean surely vardy should have been replaced by musa for us to be able to play our way of playing today, but no, king Claudio obviously doesn't rate him enough to be a starter, so we lose our talisman and end up with a poor mans ulloa up front playing a system that Everton could have contained all year
Hammo Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 Another turning point that wasn't. We are in serious bother now. Can Claudio please explain why on earth he kept Albrighton and Slimani on for the full 94 minutes? I would say those are two of the worst individual displays I have ever witnessed from Leicester City players in a meaningful top-flight game. They both had loads of the ball and gave it away pretty much every single time. Absolute garbage. Well done Ben Chilwell though. Play both him and Fuchs (further forward) on the left v West Ham and we might get some decent delivery into the area. Albrighton should be banished and preferably sold. He's been shit all season. As for Slimani, I'm staggered. I thought he was overpriced but never imagined a £30m striker could play that badly. Ulloa must start on Saturday, maybe with Mahrez just behind because Okazaki is a waste of space too.
dannythefox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 4 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: How many of Gray's crosses into the box did reach any of our players? Attempting to hit the intended target is, in the end, just not good enough. The same goes for Albrighton. But he should of never been taken off because there were far worse players on the pitch, shit from Raniari.
Anish Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 3 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Spot on. You get a CM of Drinkwater and Sneiderlin and see the difference it would make. I'd have no qualms making it a three, with Amartey running around behind them two. But our 442 at the moment!! How many losses does it take before Ranieri realizes what is going on?? Sadly he will persist until the bitter end. Just because we won the league last season with 4-4-2 it doesn't mean we will succeed this year, especially without the one man who actually made it work. Ranieri is far too stubborn to make the necessary changes, either in personnel or tactics, and this could be his downfall. I don't want him to be sacked but he has to make changes now otherwise it'll be too late. I agree completely with your sentiments on Amartey though. He might try hard, but he's out of his depth.
lcfcdamo Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 33 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: People moaning about Amartey need to take a look over at Albrighton has been consistently shit all season and offers nothing going forward apart from the same cross that hits nothing time and time again giving the opposition possession straight back, I don't blame him though the manager should see through this and try something different. this isn't a dig at Albrighton as I like the guy but I feel he is so wasted on the left flank. Couldn't agree more wots worrying more is ranieri can't see this
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 5 minutes ago, Anish said: Ranieri is far too stubborn to make the necessary changes, either in personnel or tactics In the meantime, Ranieri has played almost all conceivable line-ups. I think, the only players who have not got any playing time in the PL are Kapustka, James and Barnes. Would those guys really be able to solve our problems? I doubt it. Regarding tactics: We have played several times this season 4411 (mostly when Okazaki is in the team) and, at least for a half, 433.
inckley fox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 48 minutes ago, Col city fan said: How many times do I have to say...YES! Amongst a team full of rubbish at the moment, our midfield is one of the worst in the division. If you're seriously arguing, as you are, that today's game was a case in point that Amartey is one of the single biggest reasons why we'll get relegated, then I think I'd be better off paying less attention in future. Amartey isn't a massive problem. Replacing Kante with Amartey, clearly, is a massive problem, but - considering just how good Kante is - one for which there's no easy solution. Not even with a £100m budget to replace him. But there are many, many bigger reasons for today's debacle, and for our poor form in other games, than Amartey. That's a horrible simplification on your part, by which it's easier for you to pick on our younger, up-and-coming players than it is to look at anything approaching a bigger picture. Be it Ranieri's/the team's insistence on 4-4-2, or the pre-season programme, or transfer funds misspent on Slimani/Musa/Kapustka/Hernandez, or the loss of focus of certain players (blame contracts, BMWs, the press... whatever you wish), or Vardy, or Mahrez. or Morgan, or Huth, or Wasilewski's legs going, or Albrighton's brain going, or whatever... the list of bigger factors than Amartey is huge. Yes, if we could replace him tomorrow with the best defensive midfielder in the world, it'd be an improvement. The same would apply to everyone else out there, in their respective positions. Repeatedly stating this, and using it as a rod for Amartey's back, isn't going to help anyone. And you begin to look just a little blinkered when you keep going down that road.
pazzerfox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 28 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Spot on. You get a CM of Drinkwater and Sneiderlin and see the difference it would make. I'd have no qualms making it a three, with Amartey running around behind them two. But our 442 at the moment!! How many losses does it take before Ranieri realizes what is going on?? Correct, it's getting boring now!!!
Footballwipe Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 One of those games where you'd love to do a tl;dr post or a massive, self indulgent Twitter rant. Something feels rotten. I watch our club and the players on their massive contracts not looking like they're too bothered. I'm sick of the nicey nicey player interviews, I was tired of the constant use of the backs-to-the-wall mentality of Stoke being the catalyst with no evidence (and look what happened.) I'm horrified that the club has spent the summer buying rubbish (he says in December, I hope I'm eating my words in May) and how we've gone from Champions to relegation contenders in seven months. Other than a five minute spell we looked ineffective and hopeless. How can a team do that in seven months. Rotten. Ulloa did more in 20 seconds than Slim did in the first 65 minutes and Chilwell looked fantastic, while Gray always had a spark, especially in the first half. Is it a coincidence that the three players looking frozen out a matter of weeks ago are our best performers? Three players who have something to prove. I'm devastated at the state of things, to be honest, especially as I can see no way out unless things change hugely or we have an incredible January.
DMU Fox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 Only positive to come out of today was Ben Chilwell, very impressive debut. Can't knock the effort, simple fact is quite clearly we are not a good football side at this moment in time, and it shows. The insistence on playing 442 is killing us, we need to move to a 433 just to become more solid, even the 352/3412 we used in the great escape as that helped us when we made the move. At the moment Ulloa looks much more of a threat than Slimani which is staggering all things considered. Gray looked like he was at least trying to be positive, which is an improvement of what else was going on. I think he deserves a starting spot as a winger on one side of Ulloa, Drinkwater to come back into the starting midfield 3 as well. Quite a few signings needed in Jan, on current showing many of Ranieri's signings are struggling to justify themselves.
ZeGuy Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 I find it absolutely funny that Albrighton and Slim are slated to death while the CBs, who also happen to be responsible for the two laughable goals, are getting away completely unscathed.
MPH Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 3 hours ago, daz*dsb said: Ranieri hasn't got a ****ing clue what he's doing. Anyone that argues otherwise hasn't got a ****ing clue what they're talking about. Prove otherwise. Err... premier league win last season?
foxfanazer Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 If we continue the way we are and change nothing we will be relegated. We are losing to the worst teams in the league
MattCan Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 7 minutes ago, CPW22 said: We are really bad. Can't wait for Saturday. ha ha .. you're looking forward to the badness or to an improvement?
theessexfox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 Gray is worse at tracking back than Mahrez, even when he gets in position he doesn't follow his man and ends up 30 yards ahead of play. He also didn't touch the ball in the second half before the substitution, so I can see why he was taken off, and although he had some bright moments in the first half, he wasn't as amazing as has been made out. However he really is promising, talented and hungry, so I'd give him a run of games - I think he's best behind the striker where he doesn't have to stick out wide (his positional discipline is poor) and he can have license to get between the lines and cause problems.
lifted*fox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 19 minutes ago, MPH said: Err... premier league win last season? Err... currently? Don't pretend you don't understand the context of my original post. Just because Ranieri knew what he was doing last season doesn't mean he has a clue what he's doing currently. I see nothing to suggest he does and judging by your answer, neither do you. This season and last season are now two very different animals and pretending they're not is just silly tbh.
inckley fox Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 18 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: One of those games where you'd love to do a tl;dr post or a massive, self indulgent Twitter rant. Something feels rotten. I watch our club and the players on their massive contracts not looking like they're too bothered. I'm sick of the nicey nicey player interviews, I was tired of the constant use of the backs-to-the-wall mentality of Stoke being the catalyst with no evidence (and look what happened.) I'm horrified that the club has spent the summer buying rubbish (he says in December, I hope I'm eating my words in May) and how we've gone from Champions to relegation contenders in seven months. Other than a five minute spell we looked ineffective and hopeless. How can a team do that in seven months. Rotten. Ulloa did more in 20 seconds than Slim did in the first 65 minutes and Chilwell looked fantastic, while Gray always had a spark, especially in the first half. Is it a coincidence that the three players looking frozen out a matter of weeks ago are our best performers? Three players who have something to prove. I'm devastated at the state of things, to be honest, especially as I can see no way out unless things change hugely or we have an incredible January. I see your point, but those 'players who have something to prove' hardly took their chance against Porto. There are multiple problems on multiple levels: Scouting, pre-season preparation, the adaptability of our tactics, the motivation of some players, the fitness of some players, the confidence of some players, the lack of quality of many of our expensive new acquisitions, the loss of Kante, the advancing years of one or two people, the increased awareness of other teams to our tactics. I wouldn't pin the problem down to any one thing. I also think it's hard to pin down any one, concrete solution. There are many individuals in the side and on the bench who should be taking a long hard look right now. Ranieri's getting a huge amount wrong right now, to the extent where it's hard to see how he'll cope with the relegation scrap, but he's right when he says it needs to be a collective improvement, with him included in that.
ZeGuy Posted 26 December 2016 Posted 26 December 2016 15 minutes ago, theessexfox said: Gray is worse at tracking back than Mahrez, even when he gets in position he doesn't follow his man and ends up 30 yards ahead of play. He also didn't touch the ball in the second half before the substitution, so I can see why he was taken off, and although he had some bright moments in the first half, he wasn't as amazing as has been made out. However he really is promising, talented and hungry, so I'd give him a run of games - I think he's best behind the striker where he doesn't have to stick out wide (his positional discipline is poor) and he can have license to get between the lines and cause problems. You're right on gray but he still should have stayed on the pitch and Albrighton subbed. We were chasing the score and letting a WB who was awful and whose crosses never made to a blue shirt was a terrible mistake. As big as having two slow strikers upfront. Gray could have been an alternative to Mahrez and give the defenders something else to worry about. Musa should also have come for Slim. People are moaning about mahrez but still forget that he put the cross on Ulloa's head who kindly gave it back to the keeper. His dummy in the last minutes has opened a free path in box, should Simpson has followed the game a bit.
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