When did we become so dull and boring to watch?

[melrose]

1 hour ago, 5waller5 said:

 

I know i know ..... I'm as frustrated ..... just get sick of the moaning from our fans.

I get sick of the moaning about the moaning from our fans.

[Thracian]

8 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

I think we even put Leicester fans to sleep.

 

Drab, slow, boring, rigid, long ball...

 

 

Ranieri's the man to answer the question but he's sure changed my opinion of him. I've rarely seen such a dramatic change for the worse in a team from one season to the next. And if that's the way our owners want to grow our brand name they're welcome to it. Cos I wouldn't put up with it.   

[foxes_rule1978]

When Pulis side is more entertaining to watch then you know something isn't right...

[Thracian]

5 hours ago, melrose said:

I get sick of the moaning about the moaning from our fans.

Our fans were gems today. Full of wit and outsung the locals most of the time, even when the third goal went in. They deserved better. A lot better and I think most of the players knew it.   

[harpendenfox]

1 minute ago, Thracian said:

Our fans were gems today. Full of wit and outsung the locals most of the time, even when the third goal went in. They deserved better. A lot better and I think most of the players knew it.   

Agreed. Plenty of good humour, laced with borderline horror at what we were witnessing.

 

the players cannot be happy with this can they? They really need to get together tomorrow and take a long hard look at themselves. We are sliding towards the basement. Only they can put it right 

[Koke]

Watch the second goal by King. Wonderful build up from the back and carved up Derby.

 

Now we just hoof it.

 

 

[Stadt]

Signing Slimani hasn't helped, obviously he's not been in the side recently but now we can add the failed long ball to the 'target man' to the failed long ball into the channel for Vardy to our arsenal of absolutely dreadful football and chance creation.

[norwichfox]

Can't wait for the 2016/17 DVD to come out.....

[Chester Dontlie]

Last season we were scoring goals pretty consistently end were a joy to watch, even when grinding out one-nils... This season we've been struggling since the start. Everything seems wrong, it's like they completely forgot to play football over the summer. Once in a while there is a game that injects you with some hope and seems like it could be THE turning point, then the next week comes and we're back to hoofball, our attackers are toothless, our midfielders vanishing and seasoned title-winning defenders look like children in the mist.

 

Still quite a lot of time to turn this around, there are many games ahead and points to fight for. And the transfer window is still open. Hopefully it will bring a new option(s) and some much needed hope  

[Thracian]

5 hours ago, Wookie said:

Signing Slimani hasn't helped, obviously he's not been in the side recently but now we can add the failed long ball to the 'target man' to the failed long ball into the channel for Vardy to our arsenal of absolutely dreadful football and chance creation.

The long ball to anyone as our only approach to attack is a nonsense. In fact it's not even good as a "go to" because it's so easily negated.

 

Unfortunately we've got so few passers in our side - and none that pass it quickly enough now Kingy's been sidelined, we've left ourselves snookered and more particularly since whichever striker we play is isolated with no worthwhile support.

 

Because I say this people will claim I think King's irreplaceable but it's not true in the least and I've said on at least two occasions that he should probably have moved on if it's regular football he wants.

 

But to a good portion of Leicester fans on here King's next to useless because they simply fail to acknowledge the vital work he does in his quiet way.

 

And he's often maligned as worse than useless when another signing's on the horizon to replace him, even when they don't have the first idea how good the potential newcomer is. 

 

Did I ever once complain about Kante taking King's position. No. Kante was a massive exception to what I've said above because he was clearly quality from the off. 

 

But right now we have a midfield that can't seem to pass, shoot, defend or support. Yet we leave a player who can do all those things pretty capably on the sidelines. 

 

Even Drinkwater's been so bad that if his name had been "King" he'd have been villified. Yet Drinky's never been able to shoot and has considerable shortcomings in other departments apart from his attitude and workrate which have been exception in the main. 

 

You could say the above makes it desperately hard for our strikers to get any backing and our wide players to get sufficient ball supply to work with. 

 

But really that's just a part of the problem. Another part is that we have no full-backs to provide support or overlapping runs to take some of the markers away.

 

Nor do any of our wide players (except Mahrez when he's playing and in the mood to be bothered) have sufficient pace to warrant double-banking by oppositing defenders which means defenders only need to negate the increasingly frustrated Vardy and it's job done, more or less.

 

Altogether we've contrived to snooker ourselves because we've basically gone weapons neutral and thus our defence is under increasing pressure from teams who no longer have a great deal to worry about. 

 

The tragedy is that our disarmament has evolved through so many failings it's hard to believe professionals would be so blind. Indeed, most of what I've highlighted has been referred to on here countless times.

 

But still we've got people denying Schlupp made a difference, that King's fast passing and positioning made time and space for others, that close support for Vardy was vital to help him find space, and that hoofing the ball hopefully into the air was and is a nonsense.           

             

They don't seem bothered that our close control and passing is laboured, that we've no free-kick speciialist, that we show no imagination with our free-kicks and corners, that we don't field enough players who can shoot, that we function as separate entities rather than one fluid team and that our fast-counter-attacking style is now impossible because we're neither fast enough nor accurate enough, even via Mahrez this season because he's largely become like Knockaert, a man who mostly runs into blind alleys and plays on his own.

 

Mahrez's success was based on two things. Finding the right balance between passing and dribbling which kept defenders guessing. And retaining the energy to do damage instead of wasting that energy doing defensive jobs. Yes, he was a luxury but a lethal one like one or two others I could mention who were equally effective over the years.

 

But, again, all that seems to have been negated now. Mahrez has not responded to close marking by laying the ball off quickly and he's not been helped by being asked to do so much defending post Kante and King.

 

     

[Merging Cultures]

On 22/01/2017 at 14:52, the fox said:

Since December 2015. We where a counter attacking team and after  teams started taking us seriously we became boring ( apart from the man city games) we played like this in the second half of last season. The only deference is that defense became dreadful.

Yep. Beginning of last season we pressed and forced teams to make errors, which was very successful. Then in December, as it looked more likely we were going to finish near the top, we changed to defending deep  and long balls.

[Chico1958]

This isn't boring this is excitement

 

Still in FA Cup

 

Still in Champions League

 

Still in a dog fight at the bottom of the table

 

What bores me is moaning about how bad we are.............. which I agree with to some extent.

 

Obviously people are forgetting the pain inflicted on us by Taylor,Bassett, Adams,Levein,Kelly, Allen, Megson and of course the Mega Pain Holloway did to the Team and City.

 

Yep, we're bad but I've seen worse. Boring we maybe at times but my memories of Milne, Bloomfield, O'Neill, Wallace,Pearson and of course Ranieri brings a smile to my face.

 

Watch out people it's going to be a hell of a ride, but it's never boring supporting this Team

[lestajigs]

Hull away , actually community sheild 

[sdb]

Community Shield. When the players realised you know who did half their dirty work. We've not played well since (Palace at home perhaps?). Awful whe. You think about it actually. 

[Bayfox]

I'm basing this roughly on the majority of posts on here.

 

I'll go for the minute Eden hazard bent the ball into the top corner.

 

Now give me a minute. We were poor under pleat. But with limited resources. The football was not world class under little, but we starting winning games and compared to relegation battles it was a step up.

 

Martin took that on another level. OK at 1st results went down hill and compared to the football under mcghee we went backwards. But eventually we loved upsetting the apple cart. Winning at anfield and old Trafford. Then we had many barren years. Bar 1 under Adams.

 

Stick with me. Now the football under Adams was very much big man little man up top. Defenders who basically defend. Remind us of anyone?

 

But based on the mess Taylor left we were happy with results. But was the football actually better. Now that's in the eye of the beholder. But we forgive a lot if results go our way.

 

Now personally the whole CL, RK, IH era was ****ing garbage both football and results wise. Yet our year in L1 was class. Pearson again was a very rigid 442 big man little man up top, was the football sparking? No let's be honest we played the odd Cheltenham side of the park. But we all loved the fact we starting winning again even if it was at a level we had never played at before.

 

Anyway let's be honest at times Sven had us playing some silky football. But it never really went anywhere. Pearson got results but I'm not sure we touched peaks of football beauty other than everytime we played the sheep shaggers. Infact Cardiff away was as in your face route one as you could have got. But it's what we required and apart from a missed penalty or 2 would have got us to Wembley. 

 

Now let's take a step back. I backed us last season as results matter. Our performance at man city away was as good as an away performance you are likely to see. But most other clubs suggested we played boring route one football. Where they correct? Did we have our Blue tinted glasses on?

 

Maybe not. But isn't half the problem that we are judging what goes on in the present against what went before?

 

I'm not saying this season has been good Infact it has been horrible to watch at times. But we are judging it against the greatest thing to every happen to our club. Maybe if we judge it against Jimmy wills, Alan parris, Alan maybury, rab Douglas.

 

Times are hard but I'm sure part of it is we all brought into mahrez being the new Messi, Vardy being world class and a mouth breather from spurs being shite.

 

I'm very much of the opinion we wasted out 1 great chance to stick around the top 6 and we have spunked a whole load of cash in the wrong areas.

 

But we are currently judging everything against the dream.

 

Come on we don't even have an fa cup to our name.

 

 

[jim5000]

We should play King in the #10 position. He scores goals and is an attacking midfielder. It was pointless playing him in a two with Amartey, but with Ndidi and Drinkwater behind him, surely he couldn't be worse than Shinji

[Koke]

1 hour ago, Thracian said:

The long ball to anyone as our only approach to attack is a nonsense. In fact it's not even good as a "go to" because it's so easily negated.

 

Unfortunately we've got so few passers in our side - and none that pass it quickly enough now Kingy's been sidelined, we've left ourselves snookered and more particularly since whichever striker we play is isolated with no worthwhile support.

 

Because I say this people will claim I think King's irreplaceable but it's not true in the least and I've said on at least two occasions that he should probably have moved on if it's regular football he wants.

 

But a good portion of Leicester fans on here King's next to useless because they simply fail to acknowledge the vital work he does in his quiet way.

 

And he's worse than useless when another signing's on the horizon to replace him, even when they don't have the first idea how good the potential newcomer is. 

 

Did I ever once complain about Kante taking King's position. No. Kante was a massive exception to what I've said above because he was clearly quality from the off. 

 

But right now we have a midfield that can't seem to pass, shoot, defend or support. Yet we leave a player who can do all those things pretty capably on the sidelines. 

 

Even Drinkwater's been so bad that if his name had been "King" he'd have been villified. Yet Drinky's never been able to shoot and has considerable shortcomings in other departments apart from attitude and workrate where he's been exception in the main. 

 

You could say the above makes it desperately hard for our strikers to get any backing and our wide players to get sufficient ball supply to work with. 

 

But really that's just a part of the problem. Another part is that we have no full-backs to provide support or overlapping runs to take some of the markers away.

 

Nor do any of our wide players (except Mahrez when he's playing and in the mood to be bothered) have sufficient pace to warrant double-banking by oppositing defenders which means defenders only need to negate the increasingly frustrated Vardy and it's job done, more or less.

 

Altogether we've contrived to snooker ourselves because we've basically gone weapons neutral and thus our defence is under increasing pressure from teams who no longer have a great deal to worry about. 

 

The tragedy is that our disarmament has evolved through so many failings it's hard to believe professionals would be so blind. Indeed, most of what I've highlighted has been referred to on here countless times.

 

But still we've got people denying Schlupp made a difference, that King's fast passing and positioning made time and space for others, that close support for Vardy was vital to help him find space, and that hoofing the ball hopefully into the air was and is a nonsense.           

             

They don't seem bothered that our close control and passing is laboured, that we've no free-kick speciialist, that we show no imagination with our free-kicks and corners, that we don't field enough players who can shoot, that we function as sparate entities rather than one fluid team and that our fast-counter-attacking style is now impossible because we're neither fast enough nor accurate enough, even via Mahrez this season because he's largely become like Knockaert, a man who mostly runs into blind alleys and plays on his own.

 

Mahez's success was based on two things. Finding the right balance between passing and dribbling which kept defenders guessing. And retaining the energy to do damage instead of wasting that energy doing defensive jobs. Yes, he was a luxury but a lethal one like one or two others I could mention who were equally effective over the years.

 

But, again, all that seems to have been negated now. Mahrez has not responded to close marking by laying the ball off quickly and he's not been helped by being asked to do so much defending post Kante and King.

 

     

 

I've always wondered how we'd do now if we tried King as a number 10 in a 4-2-3-1. He's got decent passing and a good eye for goal (that goal against  Derby for example where he runs from deep behind the defence). King is better when he's further up the field near the opposition box. He struggles sometimes defensively at this level. I get frustrated with King a lot because he tend to go missing but he's deployed wrongly IMO.

 

Schlupp I'm afraid isn't good enough. If you want a team who passes the ball well and keeps the ball then Schlupp should be nowhere near your side. Very poor technique and very little intelligence.

 

You're bang on the money with the full backs as well. We need full backs who contribute offensively.

[Thracian]

2 hours ago, Koke said:

 

I've always wondered how we'd do now if we tried King as a number 10 in a 4-2-3-1. He's got decent passing and a good eye for goal (that goal against  Derby for example where he runs from deep behind the defence). King is better when he's further up the field near the opposition box. He struggles sometimes defensively at this level. I get frustrated with King a lot because he tend to go missing but he's deployed wrongly IMO.

 

Schlupp I'm afraid isn't good enough. If you want a team who passes the ball well and keeps the ball then Schlupp should be nowhere near your side. Very poor technique and very little intelligence.

 

You're bang on the money with the full backs as well. We need full backs who contribute offensively.

 

 

 

Schlupp wasn't "good enough" of late as much because of his attitude as anything from what I could see. He didn't want to be here. 

 

But that wasn't always the case for all that we could all see that he had more weaknesses than an Emmentaler water dam.    

 

The bloke was so fast, so strong and so random he had to be marked and that meant defences were pulled out of shape for all that so much of his work was wasted by the final ball.  

[shade]

buy 2 x £30-50m genuinely creative midfielders,  2 x £20-30m young, talented defenders and we might make mid table, easy this management nonsense.

[Thracian]

3 hours ago, jim5000 said:

We should play King in the #10 position. He scores goals and is an attacking midfielder. It was pointless playing him in a two with Amartey, but with Ndidi and Drinkwater behind him, surely he couldn't be worse than Shinji

 

 

It is ironic that King was pilloried when he struggled in an outnumbered  two-man midfield yet there's far less criticism when Drinky and co. got overwhelmed in a three. Then it was the back four got most of the blame,for all that the opposition were constantly given free range near the edge of our penalty box.   

[perthfox]

On ‎1‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 05:01, DB11 said:

It's pretty boring to watch. After only four minutes it had felt like 15  

 

On ‎1‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 06:32, 5waller5 said:

 

I know i know ..... I'm as frustrated ..... just get sick of the moaning from our fans.

feel the same here we watch most prem games here in oz,games go so quick but when my lcfc are playing it seems like a long drag,so boring cant pass,fwds run round like headless chooks and get no supply from midfield,everytime the opposition goes fwd we think oh no here we go again.cmon city sort it out

[zealot]

Time. 

 

More time for Mr Ranieri please.

 

He's trying formations and doing his best to find a Plan B. He can't help it if the defence have just stopped playing short passes to each other and hoof absolutely everything...

Ndidi seems like a diamond of a find - a City defensive midfielder who can shoot! Even Kante couldn't do that!

In a team that doesn't have the confidence to pass Ranieri's doing his best. When they were confident last season they'd be knocking it around little one-touch stuff and it was beautiful to see. I think they had nothing to lose. This year they've got everything to lose and they've already achieved the unthinkable. League this season was always going to be a write off.

 

But let's stop stressing out and over-reacting about it. Let's get to 40 points and take it easy. Make the most of cup competitions and we'll come back stronger next season.

[Renart]

[Arriba Los Zorros]

As soon as Ranieri managed to put his stamp on the team

[Arriba Los Zorros]

22 hours ago, Bayfox said:

I'm basing this roughly on the majority of posts on here.

 

I'll go for the minute Eden hazard bent the ball into the top corner.

 

Now give me a minute. We were poor under pleat. But with limited resources. The football was not world class under little, but we starting winning games and compared to relegation battles it was a step up.

 

Martin took that on another level. OK at 1st results went down hill and compared to the football under mcghee we went backwards. But eventually we loved upsetting the apple cart. Winning at anfield and old Trafford. Then we had many barren years. Bar 1 under Adams.

 

Stick with me. Now the football under Adams was very much big man little man up top. Defenders who basically defend. Remind us of anyone?

 

But based on the mess Taylor left we were happy with results. But was the football actually better. Now that's in the eye of the beholder. But we forgive a lot if results go our way.

 

Now personally the whole CL, RK, IH era was ****ing garbage both football and results wise. Yet our year in L1 was class. Pearson again was a very rigid 442 big man little man up top, was the football sparking? No let's be honest we played the odd Cheltenham side of the park. But we all loved the fact we starting winning again even if it was at a level we had never played at before.

 

Anyway let's be honest at times Sven had us playing some silky football. But it never really went anywhere. Pearson got results but I'm not sure we touched peaks of football beauty other than everytime we played the sheep shaggers. Infact Cardiff away was as in your face route one as you could have got. But it's what we required and apart from a missed penalty or 2 would have got us to Wembley. 

 

Now let's take a step back. I backed us last season as results matter. Our performance at man city away was as good as an away performance you are likely to see. But most other clubs suggested we played boring route one football. Where they correct? Did we have our Blue tinted glasses on?

 

Maybe not. But isn't half the problem that we are judging what goes on in the present against what went before?

 

I'm not saying this season has been good Infact it has been horrible to watch at times. But we are judging it against the greatest thing to every happen to our club. Maybe if we judge it against Jimmy wills, Alan parris, Alan maybury, rab Douglas.

 

Times are hard but I'm sure part of it is we all brought into mahrez being the new Messi, Vardy being world class and a mouth breather from spurs being shite.

 

I'm very much of the opinion we wasted out 1 great chance to stick around the top 6 and we have spunked a whole load of cash in the wrong areas.

 

But we are currently judging everything against the dream.

 

Come on we don't even have an fa cup to our name.

 

 

Disagree with this idea Pearson didn't get his teams to play football. He was practical, when our players were poor he adopted a more direct percentages style (ie playoff seasons under him)

When we had better players than most teams (2x promotion seasons) we played expanisve, attacking football with, shock horror, the players passing to one another. 

I also think we played some good stuff in the Great Escape season. We weren't getting plaudits for being rock bottom for nothing.

The brand of 'football' Ranieri has us playing would be more suited down Welford Road