lgfualol Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 Just now, Tuna said: It wasn't necessarily a player. Player, backroom staff, give whomever the sack. I bet it was Schmeichel. Seems like a right ****.
Donut Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 1 minute ago, Tuna said: It wasn't necessarily a player. Sack whoever it was. Its absolutely ridiculous
StanSP Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 Quote Team spirit has also suffered and that is not just a product of poor results. It is understood there was a strange incident after one match when the players were told that their opponents had been briefed beforehand about problems with egos and bad attitudes in the Leicester squad. That story caused a storm because it was alleged that the information had initially come via someone in the Leicester camp. Whoever leaked the info, if it was someone from our club, is a massive berk.
smudger63 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 5 hours ago, Koke said: Totally agree. It's not like Ranieri is Mourinho who publicly shames his players and throws them under the bus. I'm baffled as to why some of them don't likeRanieri any longer. I`m baffled to why some of our fans don`t, after what was achieved last season. For that alone he deserves our respect, and our thanks, but do you know what, i reckon there are still some, who in years to come would rather have a statue erected of Pearson than Ranieri. Ranieri is not the problem this season, the players are. If or when Ranieri goes, it will be down to them, and the likes of Vardy, Drinkwater and Mahrez, and the rest of the lazy, cant be arsed gits, who have become household names, and have a Premier league winners medal while playing under Ranieri, should be ashamed of themselves.
lgfualol Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 2 minutes ago, smudger63 said: I`m baffled to why some of our fans don`t, after what was achieved last season. For that alone he deserves our respect, and our thanks, but do you know what, i reckon there are still some, who in years to come would rather have a statue erected of Pearson than Ranieri. Ranieri is not the problem this season, the players are. If or when Ranieri goes, it will be down to them, and the likes of Vardy, Drinkwater and Mahrez, and the rest of the lazy, cant be arsed gits, who have become household names, and have a Premier league winners medal while playing under Ranieri, should be ashamed of themselves. Fickleness. But I remember people hating Pearson who now want him back, even when he told fans to **** off and die. I would love to see the reaction if Ranieri did that.
tsintskaro Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 all these sudden articles about Ranieri being in trouble,should actually worry dear claudio
Koke Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 15 minutes ago, StanSP said: Whoever leaked the info, if it was someone from our club, is a massive berk. If it's a player then probably one of the bench warmers. Ulloa? Gray? Both have been unhappy with lack of playing time.
chapero82 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 17 minutes ago, smudger63 said: I`m baffled to why some of our fans don`t, after what was achieved last season. For that alone he deserves our respect, and our thanks, but do you know what, i reckon there are still some, who in years to come would rather have a statue erected of Pearson than Ranieri. Ranieri is not the problem this season, the players are. If or when Ranieri goes, it will be down to them, and the likes of Vardy, Drinkwater and Mahrez, and the rest of the lazy, cant be arsed gits, who have become household names, and have a Premier league winners medal while playing under Ranieri, should be ashamed of themselves. It's not about liking or disliking Ranieri, I will love him forever for what he did last season but that doesn't mean I can't dislike his ideas this season because it seems he has seriously lost his way! Yes what he did was amazing but I really don't fancy going back to the championship and listening to all the fans mocking us
smudger63 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 3 hours ago, Goober said: The players last year said that keeping the same system in place was better for them rather than Ranieri change things, the fact they were allowed to do that alone speaks volumes, but it worked for us. Maybe we are seeing more of Claudio's imprint on this team, gradually losing our identity. The point is, that Ranieri actually changed the system last season from the one that helped us in the great escape. We spent three quarters of that season pretty much playing 4-4-2, under Pearson, it was only when we went 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 when we didn`t have the ball, that we started getting results, and started the great escape. Ranieri actually changed the system back to a 4-4-2 last season, when many managers, probably Pearson himself, would have continued with the system that had seen us produce the great escape. So the people that say that Ranieri just took over from Pearson and didn`t have to do anything are wrong, he changed the system back to 4-4-2 and made it work. This season he tried for the first few months to just carry on in the same way, believing not unreasonably, that at some point, the players would actually give a rats arse, and start to perform, but they haven`t. We had many fans who were moaning, saying that we needed to play with 3 midfielders, and that 4-4-2 wasn`t working without Kante. Ranieri then put the extra man in midfield, and guess what, the players still couldn`t give a rats arse, and started moaning that they wanted to play 4-4-2. In the mean time, many of the fans who were calling for us to ditch 4-4-2, and play the extra midfielder are now saying that it`s all Ranieris fault for tinkering, he should have left it as it was, the bloke simply can not win with some fans!
smudger63 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 12 minutes ago, chapero82 said: It's not about liking or disliking Ranieri, I will love him forever for what he did last season but that doesn't mean I can't dislike his ideas this season because it seems he has seriously lost his way! Yes what he did was amazing but I really don't fancy going back to the championship and listening to all the fans mocking us **** what other fans say! There is not one team in the championship, whos fans would not take a Premier league title, if it meant going down the following season.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 I'm sorry, but while the extent of the revelations may be a surprise, the fact it's been happening is not. He has a history for it. Just like Ike any other Leicester fan, it's not easy to call for a man who won us the league's head but that clearly shows a clueless man. The fact its it's in the Guardian and also reported by John Percy would suggest there's quite a bit of truth in all of that. He's dug his grave like he has at other clubs. He tries to be innovative when it isn't ****ing needed!! The players should be held accountable but ranieri gets off free of charge. **** that. But, yeah let's wait and see.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 Last summer three players wanted to leave : Mahrez, Ulloa and Schlupp. They all were/are frustrated , because the club didn't let them go. Frustrated players are like loose cannons on a ship. Very dangerous. I wouldn't be surprised to learn, that Schlupp was the one, who gave informations to our opponents. He has the connections, he is the native speaker. It would explain, why we sold him to Palace, although they are a direct rival in the relegation fight.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 14 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: The players should be held accountable but ranieri gets off free of charge. **** that. In the meantime we all know, that you hate him (for whatever reasons) and that you want your hero NP back.
Dan Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 Anyone leaking info should be sold immediately, regardless of who they are.
DMU Fox Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 47 minutes ago, smudger63 said: The point is, that Ranieri actually changed the system last season from the one that helped us in the great escape. We spent three quarters of that season pretty much playing 4-4-2, under Pearson, it was only when we went 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 when we didn`t have the ball, that we started getting results, and started the great escape. Ranieri actually changed the system back to a 4-4-2 last season, when many managers, probably Pearson himself, would have continued with the system that had seen us produce the great escape. So the people that say that Ranieri just took over from Pearson and didn`t have to do anything are wrong, he changed the system back to 4-4-2 and made it work. This season he tried for the first few months to just carry on in the same way, believing not unreasonably, that at some point, the players would actually give a rats arse, and start to perform, but they haven`t. We had many fans who were moaning, saying that we needed to play with 3 midfielders, and that 4-4-2 wasn`t working without Kante. Ranieri then put the extra man in midfield, and guess what, the players still couldn`t give a rats arse, and started moaning that they wanted to play 4-4-2. In the mean time, many of the fans who were calling for us to ditch 4-4-2, and play the extra midfielder are now saying that it`s all Ranieris fault for tinkering, he should have left it as it was, the bloke simply can not win with some fans! The 433 worked rather well at Everton, Claudio then for some reason changed it to a disastrous formation against Chelsea and an even worse one against Southampton.The performance against Everton was perfectly acceptable and would have given us a much better chance of success in subsequent games. 442 without Kante is a recipe for disaster as the first half of this season showed. Claudio has to take responsibility for continuing with 442 for too long and then ditching 433 when there was clear evidence of it working. That being said some of our players need to take a long hard look at themselves, the lack of effort at times has been beyond a joke. Claudio can only do so much when too many of our lads could not look less arsed if they tried. And anyone thinking that John Percy article is standard media sharks circling, it will be almost 100% accurate. He is spot on with all things midlands football based.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 5 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: In the meantime we all know, that you hate him (for whatever reasons) and that you want your hero NP back. Oh for god sake! I've actually categorically stated I do not want Pearson back for your information. Get it right. its bad for Leicester. I don't "hate" anyone but you may love Claudio and can follow him to wherever he goes next. I do care about Leicester and it's not right for the club. Get your facts correct before getting emotional.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Oh for god sake! I've actually categorically stated I do not want Pearson back for your information. Get it right. its bad for Leicester. I don't "hate" anyone but you may love Claudio and can follow him to wherever he goes next. I do care about Leicester and it's not right for the club. Get your facts correct before getting emotional. That is really rich of you. Perhaps you should read again your post, I was referring to. If someone here is emotional, than it is you.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 Just now, Struwwelpeter60 said: That is really rich of you. Perhaps you should read again your post, I was referring to. If someone here is emotional, than it is you. I don't even know why I am replying to you. But, here goes, the post you quoted said the players should be blamed alongside the manager. Where in that did you get a) hatred for Claudio; and b) calling for Pearson to come back? You don't make sense.
ZeGuy Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 10 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I don't even know why I am replying to you. But, here goes, the post you quoted said the players should be blamed alongside the manager. Where in that did you get a) hatred for Claudio; and b) calling for Pearson to come back? You don't make sense. Don't start a discussion with this guy. His posts consist in having a go at other people's opinions and his mindboggling argumentation is mostly based on strawmanning and attacks ad hominem.
smudger63 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 33 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I'm sorry, but while the extent of the revelations may be a surprise, the fact it's been happening is not. He has a history for it. Just like Ike any other Leicester fan, it's not easy to call for a man who won us the league's head but that clearly shows a clueless man. The fact its it's in the Guardian and also reported by John Percy would suggest there's quite a bit of truth in all of that. He's dug his grave like he has at other clubs. He tries to be innovative when it isn't ****ing needed!! The players should be held accountable but ranieri gets off free of charge. **** that. But, yeah let's wait and see. He wasn`t trying to be innovative in the first half of the season though, he stuck to the same system as last season, when we won the league. It wasn`t working though, partly down to the loss of Kante, and also because the players couldn`t be arsed to make it work, like they did last season. It`s almost like they have got together and said Fvck it this season, let`s have the season off to bask in our glory, and bumper pay rises! I actually agree with DMU Fox, that Ranieri was probably guilty of not changing the system early enough, and also that he didn`t really give the 4-3-3 a decent run, when we actually won away at Everton playing in that system. That said, no system will work unless the players make the effort, and sadly our heroes of last season, seem to have turned into prima donnas, who can`t really be arsed to make that effort.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 4 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I don't even know why I am replying to you. But, here goes, the post you quoted said the players should be blamed alongside the manager. Where in that did you get a) hatred for Claudio; and b) calling for Pearson to come back? You don't make sense. "He's dug his grave like he has at other clubs. He tries to be innovative when it isn't ****ing needed!! The players should be held accountable but ranieri gets off free of charge. **** that" All those **** That isn't emotional?
Donut Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 52 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I'm sorry, but while the extent of the revelations may be a surprise, the fact it's been happening is not. He has a history for it. Just like Ike any other Leicester fan, it's not easy to call for a man who won us the league's head but that clearly shows a clueless man. The fact its it's in the Guardian and also reported by John Percy would suggest there's quite a bit of truth in all of that. He's dug his grave like he has at other clubs. He tries to be innovative when it isn't ****ing needed!! The players should be held accountable but ranieri gets off free of charge. **** that. But, yeah let's wait and see. Im not so sure that he has a history of leaving clubs due to dressing room unrest, i wouldnt say its a hallmark of his. I would agree with Smudger, his key mistake for me this season was not being innovative enough, early enough.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 3 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: Don't start a discussion with this guy. His posts consists in having a go at other people's opinions and his mindboggling argumentation is mostly based on strawmanning and attacks ad hominem. I thought, you are done with me? You are obviously the vindictive type. What a shame. "attacks ad hominem" That's a nice touch. Showing of your education in a football forum.
NewEnglandFox Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 I thought it was pretty obvious we were in shambles before I read those 2 pieces and now I know and everyone knows we are. Absolutely pathetic.
trabuch Posted 4 February 2017 Posted 4 February 2017 He has a history of winning the league with Leicester City. Not bad. In fact - beyond any of our dreams. If you think the manager and players and fans, are going to deal with one of the most extraordinory occurrences in sport in a rational way then good luck to you. We are Leicester and we are original.
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