The Doctor Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 8 minutes ago, NeilLCFC said: Not buying into any of this rubbish about it being the players fault, money gone to their heads etc. A lot of our squad have been here since the championship and when managed correctly, they have given their all for this club. By CR's own addmission, the players managed themselves last season. They are shite now cos Claudio has started to do things his own way, the guy is completely clueless and this translates in our performance. Its not just the players that have lost faith in Ranieri, it's the backroom staff as well, Walsh left as a result! CR has ripped apart years of hard work, ripped apart everything that made us special as a club and destroyed our identity. Even when we were bottom of the league for months, everything from our determination and fight to the way we handled transfers made us special, now we're no different to Sunderland or Stoke. Last season was the result of someone else's work and years of planning and this season is down to one person: Claudio Ranieri. the man is a complete fraud. Walsh left to be closer to his roots. And it amazes me anyone could be so disrespectful as to insinuate last season happened despite Claudio. as for col - these performances are on the players, they're the ones who go out there and roll over
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Donut said: Have a day off ffs you hate the man we get it. You dont have to rubbish his achievement at every opportunity. Last season was clearly NP magic.
Guest Col city fan Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 8 minutes ago, The Doctor said: Walsh left to be closer to his roots. And it amazes me anyone could be so disrespectful as to insinuate last season happened despite Claudio. as for col - these performances are on the players, they're the ones who go out there and roll over As I said, it's like Groundhog Day. You said the same thing before the last game, the game before that and the game before that. It's getting boring as fook. We all know the players ain't performing. We also all know that the manager seems to be able to do nothing about it.
Donut Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 11 minutes ago, NeilLCFC said: I don't hate him in the slightest. Just feel like he was given far too much credit for last season and never believed he was the man to move us forward this season and sadly I was right. I was slated on here many times but I spotted the cracks months ago and wanted him gone to avoid being in the situation we are currently in. Just be honest mate. You hate him. Things have gone badly, badly wrong this season and of course he takes him share of the blame. But pinning it all onto Ranieri which you do in every thread is just wrong and how can you be given too much credit for winning the league at Leicester? Come on man youre being stupidly over the top on Ranieri.
Blackpool Fox 69 Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 Look, I have been in the Claudio "in" camp firmly, however the club is bigger than any individual and this team of prima donnas, cliqués and mardy gits are responding to nothing, formation changes, loyalty, protecting them, support from the terraces despite what we are seeing on the pitch, in the short term we need something and it is looking like a change of Manager is all we have left, my preferred option would be to move Claudio "upstairs" I think a lot of this team may respond if we have someone in to tear them a new backside, maybe they feel they can get away with it with Claudio, as they won him the Premier League, they subconsciously feel they have credit in the bank, at key times on the pitch, if this was their maximum, I'm sure we would accept what is happening, but we know 100% this is not their maximum!
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 1 minute ago, Blackpool Fox 69 said: Look, I have been in the Claudio "in" camp firmly, however the club is bigger than any individual and this team of prima donnas, cliqués and mardy gits are responding to nothing, formation changes, loyalty, protecting them, support from the terraces despite what we are seeing on the pitch, in the short term we need something and it is looking like a change of Manager is all we have left, my preferred option would be to move Claudio "upstairs" I think a lot of this team may respond if we have someone in to tear them a new backside, maybe they feel they can get away with it with Claudio, as they won him the Premier League, they subconsciously feel they have credit in the bank, at key times on the pitch, if this was their maximum, I'm sure we would accept what is happening, but we know 100% this is not their maximum! You may well be right sadly
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 Won the league because he was able to continue the momentum that he walked in to. Regardless to say, NP was on self destruct and whether sacked or not lacked what it would take for that final hurdle. Claudio could never build up the team and the infrastructure to the standard that Pearson did. As much as I like the guy wheels are falling off and he's proving that he's not a mechanic. Players obviously are responsible but all but one (agreed significant) they are the same side as last year.
Basingstoke Fox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 Albert Einstein supposedly said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”. We've been seeing the same thing for weeks on end. To start with that back four again yesterday was just asking for trouble.
ge12 Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 I think up until yesterday out of sheer love for the guy I was convinced it was a case of the players screwing him over, however after yesterdays team selection, bizarre substitutions and lack of any clear game plan once again he has completely lost me. Unfortunately for him he appears to be every bit as responsible for the situation we are in now as he was for last seasons success.
Kitchandro Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 5 hours ago, NeilLCFC said: Not buying into any of this rubbish about it being the players fault, money gone to their heads etc. A lot of our squad have been here since the championship and when managed correctly, they have given their all for this club. By CR's own addmission, the players managed themselves last season. They are shite now cos Claudio has started to do things his own way, the guy is completely clueless and this translates in our performance. Its not just the players that have lost faith in Ranieri, it's the backroom staff as well, Walsh left as a result! CR has ripped apart years of hard work, ripped apart everything that made us special as a club and destroyed our identity. Even when we were bottom of the league for months, everything from our determination and fight to the way we handled transfers made us special, now we're no different to Sunderland or Stoke. Last season was the result of someone else's work and years of planning and this season is down to one person: Claudio Ranieri. the man is a complete fraud. But you see this sums up your whole post. This is exactly the sort of nonsense that discredits your argument. You are too stubborn, too hurt to accept that these players aren't giving their all for this club, nor do they need to be managed correctly to give their all for the club. That is something that every player has control of and there is never any excuse for not giving their all. How can it not be the players' fault when they're the ones supposed to be playing the actual football. And when you know, as individuals, their form has dipped catastrophically to an extent we've never seen before. Quite clearly, they are to blame for their own individual performances. I'm not going to go into your ludicrous notion that Ranieri can't take credit for last season or that the players managed themselves for one season but conveniently not this season (honestly are you living in a fantasy land?), because it's just so stupid and I'm tired of going over the reasons why idiots like you are wrong. I don't follow your posts but I assume you're one of those tools that thinks Pearson should be sent Claudio's championship medal despite the fact he had us bottom for 6 months and didn't realise Vardy was supposed to play centre forward (much like Roy Hodgson). Regardless of the outcome of this season comments like yours will make you forever vilified whenever you express them, and rightly so.
Beechey Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 14 minutes ago, ge12 said: I think up until yesterday out of sheer love for the guy I was convinced it was a case of the players screwing him over, however after yesterdays team selection, bizarre substitutions and lack of any clear game plan once again he has completely lost me. Unfortunately for him he appears to be every bit as responsible for the situation we are in now as he was for last seasons success. The subs weren't that bizarre, he wanted full backs that could push up on the flanks as Swansea were playing with three in midfield, they lacked that width, so he put Chilwell and Amartey (should both be starting in those positions now) in.
ge12 Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 16 minutes ago, Beechey said: The subs weren't that bizarre, he wanted full backs that could push up on the flanks as Swansea were playing with three in midfield, they lacked that width, so he put Chilwell and Amartey (should both be starting in those positions now) in. Fair point, but I would still argue that any time you are 2-0 and two of three substitutions are your fullbacks that it is unusual, especially as Amartey is not particularly good going forward either. I agree that Chilwell should be starting in that position.
sylofox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 12 hours ago, Koke said: CR sorry but you are a fool. Never trust anyone that is motivated by money. At least 2 players got huge contracts to stay with us how many others did. Very well payed players now on massive amounts to be sh1t. They are not fans and definitely not loyal to anyone. Money is king and that's all they care about. Watch them all want out if we go down and wages are cut. Well don't expect anyone to gamble big sums on you. None of last seasons players except possibly Kasper have sold themselves. So after turning your backs on us on your club and your manager enjoy you big new low wage. I so wish we could let some of them rot. So CR is this to many chances thing for real or is it just for Millwall? Or will you reward these under performing cvnts with a game in Seville? Or are we just going to rest them for the Liverpool game. I also hope you are not just goin to bench them they need dropping from a very great height.
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 23 minutes ago, Beechey said: The subs weren't that bizarre, he wanted full backs that could push up on the flanks as Swansea were playing with three in midfield, they lacked that width, so he put Chilwell and Amartey (should both be starting in those positions now) in. Benny wasn't even on the bench which does surprise me after a decent performance against Derby. I would even but big Wasaleski starting can't be any worse surely
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 I do believe the writing is on the wall. Championship football next season. I so hope I'm wrong but I cannot see how we are going to get out of this mess.
Koke Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 I know his English is limited so he uses words he knows but I wish he would stop saying things like fight and spirit and together after every defeat. People are tired of hearing clichés and buzzwords.
Guest Lako42 Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 He get's one more chance from me to actually drop certain players. His loyalty to certain duffers has killed him. Make the big changes Claudio.........please
theessexfox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 Dropping the players now doesn't make his management any less inept. We all saw it months ago; a top manager would not have let the players get away with it for this long.
ZeGuy Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 8 hours ago, theessexfox said: Dropping the players now doesn't make his management any less inept. We all saw it months ago; a top manager would not have let the players get away with it for this long. It can backfire like crazy. He has already lost a part of the dressing room (players who never get a chance) and could lose the others as well. Good god. I don't know if people realize how dramatic the consequences of this kind of favoritism can have in a dressing room. So much for the band of brothers. It creates a rift between the "established players" who are sure to play no matter how bad they are and the others who see the injustice and are completely frustrated. The formers don't have any concurrence and don't feel the need to ward hard on the pitch and latters only think to show themselves on the best possible angle to attract some scouts from other clubs. Can only imagine how toxic the dressing room is. No wonder he can't keep them together and/or motivated. He screwed up big time. It is an absolute nightmare-ish team management. I still can't believe he so genuinely admitted this.
SecretPro Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 Look guys, all this doom and gloom is nonsense. We just need to be more concentrate.
norwichfox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 10 hours ago, Col city fan said: Has he gone yet? Just woken up this morning to see the same stuff. The Doctor still appears to be making out all the blame lays with the players, a lot of people are advocating we play this our second team for the rest of the season and Ranieri is still smiling and saying we'll be fine. Its like Groundhog Day. Hopefully he's just sorting out his termination package and will be gone before the weekend. 25 games in and he's coming out with........"It is difficult when you achieve something so good, you want to give them one, two, three chances. Maybe now is too much"..... I think there can't be another manager in the world that wouldn't have made change for so long based on a good previous year when performances are so dire.
Old Fox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 I do believe that the Chairman will not sack him because he is a very loyal man with huge integrity, however, he may need to sit Claudio down and either pop him upstairs (DOF) or agree a mutual parting of ways IF he is going to change him. Too much noise around the players though for my liking.....clearly divisions in the team with certain egos definitely affecting performances and morale....need to sift out the bad news players.....
Guest Col city fan Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 The owners must act. There is clearly toxicity here and something has to give. If it doesn't, we will go down. We need to hear something and soon.
ARM1968 Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 Vardy possibly become Johnny Big Ballocks and spent the season regretting not going to Arsenal. I for one regret that decision too. So many issues you do feel that there must be a problem within the club, amongst the players. Stupid thing is is they're throwing away the shine they earned last season and appear happy to slip back into the ways of the unpolished turd.
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