joachim1965 Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 3 hours ago, Thommo said: Didn't Nixon get impeached over Watergate? He was impeached , which was followed by his resignation.
leicsmac Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 9 hours ago, Claridge said: Sorry that lovely young lady who is as sweet as apple pie is a hero for all women and humankind in general. Her behaviour is liberating and inspiring to all the young females of the world. Become a pornstar and be proud. Well, ethics of sex work aside (that's for a different thread I think), I don't really think it's right to suggest that a guy screwing a prostitute and then paying her to cover it up because he thinks it might be damaging to him is all the fault of the prostitute and not the guy. Also, it illustrates, yet again, the hypocrisy of social conservatives when you know they'd lambast any Dem leader who had done anything remotely like this but because it's Trump it's all Stormy's fault and none of his. 3 hours ago, Thommo said: Didn't Nixon get impeached over Watergate? 14 minutes ago, joachim1965 said: He was impeached , which was followed by his resignation. Sort of. Articles of impeachment were passed, but a vote for impeachment wasn't held by either house of Congress - it didn't get that far. Instead, Nixon saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship knowing that his successor would pardon him.
Mike Oxlong Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 25 minutes ago, joachim1965 said: He was impeached , which was followed by his resignation. I don’t think he was impeached ie not to completion. Saw something on the news the other day saying that it is a common misconception that he was.
joachim1965 Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 1 hour ago, Mike Oxlong said: I don’t think he was impeached ie not to completion. Saw something on the news the other day saying that it is a common misconception that he was. Just had a look and yes, the impeachment process was started but Nixon resigned before it was completed.
zealot Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 4 hours ago, Thommo said: Didn't Nixon get impeached over Watergate? I don't think he did Thommo Impeachment was threatened or almost initiated in some small way I think and then he resigned. So I don't think it really counts...
lifted*fox Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 he's done for. Alan Weisselberg, his financial chief has just been granted immunity.
Mr Mister Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 Given everything that has gone against him, Trump is not going anywhere. Americans just love him too much. More likely he will be re-elected in a landslide in 2020.
leicsmac Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 Really wouldn't want to call what's going to happen from here. The next few months will tell us a lot, I guess.
Jattdogg Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 John Mccain has died from his battle with cancer.
Guest MattP Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 6 hours ago, Jattdogg said: John Mccain has died from his battle with cancer. Great shame. The press are quite sickening today, fawning him now he's passed, do they think we've forgotten the abuse they gave him in 2008?
leicsmac Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 32 minutes ago, MattP said: Great shame. The press are quite sickening today, fawning him now he's passed, do they think we've forgotten the abuse they gave him in 2008? All about "showing respect for the dead", I think - happens to most everyone. IMO a typical hawkish fundie who gave us Sarah Palin but then grew enough of a conscience to challenge Trump in his last days, and for that, I hope his pain is over now.
leicsmac Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 Also, is this real? If it is...well, I don't often enjoy schadenfreude but...
breadandcheese Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 36 minutes ago, leicsmac said: All about "showing respect for the dead", I think - happens to most everyone. IMO a typical hawkish fundie who gave us Sarah Palin but then grew enough of a conscience to challenge Trump in his last days, and for that, I hope his pain is over now. I think that's a bit of a harsh assessment, especially the suggestion that he only grew a conscience to challenge Trump in his last days. McCain was a man of integrity throughout his life, whether you agreed with his politics (or conscience as you put it) or not. The best way to judge the measure of McCain and what a servant to his country he was, is to see the reaction of opponents from the other side of the house. A good article below says a lot about him. https://www.newsweek.com/watch-moment-john-mccain-defended-barack-obama-racist-voter-1090897
leicsmac Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 Just now, breadandcheese said: I think that's a bit of a harsh assessment, especially the suggestion that he only grew a conscience to challenge Trump in his last days. McCain was a man of integrity throughout his life, whether you agreed with his politics (or conscience as you put it) or not. The best way to judge the measure of McCain and what a servant to his country he was, is to see the reaction of opponents from the other side of the house. A good article below says a lot about him. https://www.newsweek.com/watch-moment-john-mccain-defended-barack-obama-racist-voter-1090897 There's no doubting the man had courage in spades (something, again, the present leader seems to lack) and was certainly ready to make a stand on whatever he held dear and for that, I'm glad both sides of the fence are pointing that out. However, there's no getting round that some of the things he chose to make a stand on - such as being massively in favour of American "intervention" all over the world and opposing any kind of widespread government-mandated healthcare system despite having access to that same kind of system for almost all of his life - were not all that good.
Carl the Llama Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 1 hour ago, MattP said: Great shame. The press are quite sickening today, fawning him now he's passed, do they think we've forgotten the abuse they gave him in 2008? Bit of an odd point to make. People are always given positive sentiments after they pass. And 2008 was 10 years ago, in more recent times he's been one of the media's favourite US politicians so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 2 hours ago, leicsmac said: Also, is this real? If it is...well, I don't often enjoy schadenfreude but... Hilarious if true. The guys just a fame-monger, dunno how he thinks he's a martyr Makes a career out of being an offensive bell and then moans when people dont like him
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 10 hours ago, Jattdogg said: John Mccain has died from his battle with cancer. This is sad because he was a decent politician, and a person who dared to speak out against dishonest politicians. RIP.
Jattdogg Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/08/26/us/jacksonville-madden-shooting/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F Dems to call on gun control. Repubs to say " now is not the time". Rinse and repeat. Sad times
urban.spaceman Posted 26 August 2018 Posted 26 August 2018 33 minutes ago, Jattdogg said: https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/08/26/us/jacksonville-madden-shooting/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F Dems to call on gun control. Repubs to say " now is not the time". Rinse and repeat. Sad times Thoughts and prayers etc.
MC Prussian Posted 27 August 2018 Posted 27 August 2018 21 hours ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: Hilarious if true. The guys just a fame-monger, dunno how he thinks he's a martyr Makes a career out of being an offensive bell and then moans when people dont like him If you read in between his lines, there's a fair amount of interesting points that he raises. And he doesn't moan about not being liked, it's about a perceived lack of gratitude and he also raises the fact that touring costs a fair amount of money. I mean, events have been targeted with violence, some of them even had to be shut down. The cost of security/safety is quite high - it's the US, after all. Unfortunately, despite some sympathies, I have a hard time looking past his mannerisms and way of behaving himself in public. Each and every second, his exalted personality screams of attention deficit disorder.
MC Prussian Posted 27 August 2018 Posted 27 August 2018 Another shooting in the US, and it's Florida again. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/26/jacksonville-florida-mass-shooting According to several reports, the gunman was a participant in the very same Madden NFL 19 tournament he targeted, but didn't get too far and subsequently lost the plot completely.
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 August 2018 Posted 27 August 2018 4 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: If you read in between his lines, there's a fair amount of interesting points that he raises. And he doesn't moan about not being liked, it's about a perceived lack of gratitude and he also raises the fact that touring costs a fair amount of money. I mean, events have been targeted with violence, some of them even had to be shut down. The cost of security/safety is quite high - it's the US, after all. Unfortunately, despite some sympathies, I have a hard time looking past his mannerisms and way of behaving himself in public. Each and every second, his exalted personality screams of attention deficit disorder. I dont see what he offers that warrants gratitude. There is no discretion in the man. He cant even be bothered to be careful with his words. Its not like he will be remembered for serving the public. If he is spending millions of dollars arranging events that keep getting cancelled, he needs to re-think his business model
Guest the fox Posted 27 August 2018 Posted 27 August 2018 Taking "if I ain't winning; no one is" to a whole norther level. What a piece of crap.
Guest MattP Posted 27 August 2018 Posted 27 August 2018 Milo is cack anyway. Best he steps aside and leaves the arguments he likes to get into to the serious right leaning polemicists like Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray. They could win elections, Milo couldn't.
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