Hull (H) Post Match Thread 3 - 1

[UPinCarolina]

Did anyone else see just how well we moved the ball up the pitch yesterday *without* having to hoof it?

It was like watching a whole new side. 

[waylander]

Was great to watch . From a team that couldn't string a pass together too like watching brazil ?

[norwichfox]

15 hours ago, brisfox said:

Pain is just weakness leaving the body.

Can't it walk faster?

[foxy boxing]

we got a decent win, and another three goals and at least the players seem to be trying and some like Vardy seem rejuvenated and interested so Skakes is doing something right!. Shakes has obviously gone back to the blueprint of last season with the team the same except with Ndidi, who was at fault for the Hull goal and is responsible for some wayward passing and is not exactly a proper defensive midfielder, I'm not criticising him merely making an observation. the team still have time to turn the season around and with the Sevilla game coming up could become very special indeed

[Babylon]

Not read the whole thread... but am I the only one who didn't think we were great? I thought we were bloody frustrating, controlled large periods of the ball but seemed massively reluctant to actually run at them other than Vardy. Numerous times there seemed a huge amount of space for players to try and get at, but we preferred to just knock it wide. Thought the tempo was quite poor as well, other than perhaps Vardy and Albrighton.

[Babylon]

On 04/03/2017 at 16:50, the fox said:

mahrez MOTM! his best game in the last year.

Eh.... I thought he was bloody awful and was screaming for him to come off before he scored.

[goose2010]

2 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Not read the whole thread... but am I the only one who didn't think we were great? I thought we were bloody frustrating, controlled large periods of the ball but seemed massively reluctant to actually run at them other than Vardy. Numerous times there seemed a huge amount of space for players to try and get at, but we preferred to just knock it wide. Thought the tempo was quick poor as well, other than perhaps Vardy and Albrighton.

 

We werent great no, but its a vast improvement going done 1-0 it could of been a completely different story luckily the players reacted well and didnt let their heads drop, it also helped that the fans were positive even when we were losing.

 

I think that was a reluctancy to run with the ball or try 'risky through balls' due to the fact we tried one and they broke and scored. When you're playing against a team looking to counter attack its risky trying too much, pair that with a lack of confidence and thats probably why we were passing side ways rather than looking for a through ball.

 

The tempo was fine would much rather us keep the ball and let Hull chase us than lumping it long constantly.

[les-tah]

9 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Eh.... I thought he was bloody awful and was screaming for him to come off before he scored.

Not great but a little better than he has been and it proves he can change a game with one move from him.

hes a confidence player and this goal will do him the world of good.

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, goose2010 said:

 

We werent great no, but its a vast improvement going done 1-0 it could of been a completely different story luckily the players reacted well and didnt let their heads drop, it also helped that the fans were positive even when we were losing.

 

I think that was a reluctancy to run with the ball or try 'risky through balls' due to the fact we tried one and they broke and scored. When you're playing against a team looking to counter attack its risky trying too much, pair that with a lack of confidence and thats probably why we were passing side ways rather than looking for a through ball.

 

The tempo was fine would much rather us keep the ball and let Hull chase us than lumping it long constantly.

Not asking to lump it long, but it was as clear as day that they were slow and struggled with us when we moved the ball quickly and tried to get at them at speed. We slowed it down so much it was really frustrating.

[Max Power]

13 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Not read the whole thread... but am I the only one who didn't think we were great? I thought we were bloody frustrating, controlled large periods of the ball but seemed massively reluctant to actually run at them other than Vardy. Numerous times there seemed a huge amount of space for players to try and get at, but we preferred to just knock it wide. Thought the tempo was quite poor as well, other than perhaps Vardy and Albrighton.

That patience and control was the most pleasing aspect for me. So often this year I've seen us play three passes, see that Vardy over the top isn't on and just hoofed it back the opposition. 

 

Hull are a well drilled side under Silva. I watched both Chelsea and Arsenal struggle for fluency when playing them at home. 

[Babylon]

2 minutes ago, Max Power said:

That patience and control was the most pleasing aspect for me. So often this year I've seen us play three passes, see that Vardy over the top isn't on and just hoofed it back the opposition. 

 

Hull are a well drilled side under Silva. I watched both Chelsea and Arsenal struggle for fluency when playing them at home. 

Again, not asking to hoof it. More than happy to pass it around, just felt like we'd have taken them apart with ease had we upped the speed at which we were moving it about. They were horrific, just a team full of big lumps and not much else. When we moved off them and played the ball at pace we ripped them to shreds.

[goose2010]

5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Not asking to lump it long, but it was as clear as day that they were slow and struggled with us when we moved the ball quickly and tried to get at them at speed. We slowed it down so much it was really frustrating.

 

 

Hull set up to frustrate, 10 men behind the ball, very good structure and made the pitch very narrow. Andy Robertson is a great left back and did a good job on Mahrez (until the goal) Hull are a hard team to beat and will frustrate a lot of teams. If they had a decent striker i think they would be higher up the league

[notnow john]

The important fact for me was winning a league game for the first time this season after going behind.

 I am staggered by the amount of fans who start agitating if we pass the ball square or backwards 

whilst probing for an opening,"stop fvcking about get it up there!"

 

[AjcW]

2 hours ago, Babylon said:

Eh.... I thought he was bloody awful and was screaming for him to come off before he scored.

Glad someone has said it! I knew he was going to pull something like that out the hat because he'd been shocking all game. Kasper spent most of the game begging him to track back. And he missed a good five passes in succession at least 

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, AjcW said:

Glad someone has said it! I knew he was going to pull something like that out the hat because he'd been shocking all game. Kasper spent most of the game begging him to track back. And he missed a good five passes in succession at least 

Happens to me every week, can guarantee whoever I say isn't playing well will bang one in.

[Guest the fox]

4 hours ago, Babylon said:

Eh.... I thought he was bloody awful and was screaming for him to come off before he scored.

Well, don't take my words for it. Here is what whoscored thought about the MOTM for the match 

 

 

Take into considerations that whoscored don't just put ratings arbitrarily, they put all the little things together like passing, shooting, creating chances, dribbling and other few things to get their final ratings. But hey, deferent strokes for deferent folks.

[Babylon]

38 minutes ago, the fox said:

Well, don't take my words for it. Here is what whoscored thought about the MOTM for the match 

 

 

Take into considerations that whoscored don't just put ratings arbitrarily, they put all the little things together like passing, shooting, creating chances, dribbling and other few things to get their final ratings. But hey, deferent strokes for deferent folks.

I'll judge my own eyes thanks, there's a good reason he has about to get hooked just before he scored.

 

Answer me this... do you think Clucas was better than every single one of our players other than Mahrez, or does a points based system get totally warped by just one or two events over a whole game?

 

Before the goal he was averaging 6.6 on their points based system. With only Drinkwater and 2 or 3 of their players getting lower. Bravo, he scored a good goal and it pushed up his points tally, but it doesn't mean he wasn't pretty crap before that.

[ARTY_FOX]

I thought mahrez had a decent game.  I think expectations around him are too high at times and people (a lot around me who seem to be of the older generations) get on his back so quickly. It's almost like they can't wait. 

 

You have to take some frustration with players like mahrez. Lots of flair lots of ability and can change a game so easily and so quickly with one moment of magic.

[Guest the fox]

24 minutes ago, Babylon said:

I'll judge my own eyes thanks, there's a good reason he has about to get hooked just before he scored.

 

Answer me this... do you think Clucas was better than every single one of our players other than Mahrez, or does a points based system get totally warped by just one or two events over a whole game?

 

Before the goal he was averaging 6.6 on their points based system. With only Drinkwater and 2 or 3 of their players getting lower. Bravo, he scored a good goal and it pushed up his points tally, but it doesn't mean he wasn't pretty crap before that.

1- no need to be upset there, you do realize that I finished my comments with the words "deferent strokes for deferent folks." Right?

 

2-well, clucas had a good game and scored a goal. So, he deserves his rating

 

3-so, first you tried to discredit the site then you used it as a reference when it served your need. Hmm, seems logical!

 

Vardy didn't do much in the champions league but he got my MOTM because his goal will go a long way. For mahrez, Its not just a goal. It a goal that put Leicester ahead and contributed to the 3 points.

 

If you think mahrez did bad, then that's fine by me. But, don't be outraged when other people have deferent opinions and they want to "judge my their own eyes"

[Old Fox]

5 hours ago, Babylon said:

Not asking to lump it long, but it was as clear as day that they were slow and struggled with us when we moved the ball quickly and tried to get at them at speed. We slowed it down so much it was really frustrating.

Not sure if it had been noted but Gray was about to come on when Mahrez scored....I believe that is why Mahrez ran over to Shakey when he scored to celebrate with him and then Gray sat back down before coming on later! 

[Babylon]

17 minutes ago, the fox said:

1- no need to be upset there, you do realize that I finished my comments with the words "deferent strokes for deferent folks." Right?

 

2-well, clucas had a good game and scored a goal. So, he deserves his rating

 

3-so, first you tried to discredit the site then you used it as a reference when it served your need. Hmm, seems logical!

 

Vardy didn't do much in the champions league but he got my MOTM because his goal will go a long way. For mahrez, Its not just a goal. It a goal that put Leicester ahead and contributed to the 3 points.

 

If you think mahrez did bad, then that's fine by me. But, don't be outraged when other people have deferent opinions and they want to "judge my their own eyes"

2) so you think Clucas was the second best player on the pitch? Yes or No?

 

3) I'm using their system to show you how deeply flawed it is. It's not a reflection of an overall performance when one single event takes you from one of the worst to one of the best.

 

If you want to hand out MOTM to people on the back of one incident that's fair enough. My view is that it should go to the best player over the 90.

[FireFox]

On the stream, they were saying it was Okazaki coming off for Gray.

 

Just because Mahrez scored and the substitution didn't happen right away, doesn't mean it was Mahrez coming off.

[Guest the fox]

21 minutes ago, Babylon said:

2) so you think Clucas was the second best player on the pitch? Yes or No?

 

3) I'm using their system to show you how deeply flawed it is. It's not a reflection of an overall performance when one single event takes you from one of the worst to one of the best.

 

If you want to hand out MOTM to people on the back of one incident that's fair enough. My view is that it should go to the best player over the 90.

1-He scored their only goal and did pretty well in the whole game. The eye test is important but the stats are justifying why he got a high note.

 

2-it was not "an event" it was "the event". It was a goal that put Leicester in the lead. So, it's very important.

 

 

[Babylon]

6 minutes ago, the fox said:

1-He scored their only goal and did pretty well in the whole game. The eye test is important but the stats are justifying why he got a high note.

 

2-it was not "an event" it was "the event". It was a goal that put Leicester in the lead. So, it's very important.

1) yes or no

 

2) it's no more important than the first goal. Take either away and you still get the same score.

[jim5000]

6 hours ago, Babylon said:

<Mahrez> Eh.... I thought he was bloody awful and was screaming for him to come off before he scored.

Good job they didn't listen