Gylfi Sigurdsson

[SheppyFox]

8 hours ago, GaelicFox said:

Ignore that tool CF 

You know what's funny about bugger off? We all know what buggering means but we still say it  

[Babylon]

11 hours ago, vanity said:

Ffp is a joke. We could use one of our owner's new teams to buy mendy and ulloa for 50 mill, poof, ffp complied with. Or if they won't go, some young kid. Rules are nonsense.

But we aren't doing that and the owners aren't putting their own cash in and they aren't giving us silly sponsorship deals. So whilst we have in the past treated it as a joke, I see no signs of us currently doing so.

[joachim1965]

5 hours ago, SheppyFox said:

You know what's funny about bugger off? We all know what buggering means but we still say it  

I don't , please enlighten me.

[HankMarvin]

38 minutes ago, Babylon said:

But we aren't doing that and the owners aren't putting their own cash in and they aren't giving us silly sponsorship deals. So whilst we have in the past treated it as a joke, I see no signs of us currently doing so.

Think they all ready did that in 2014

 

The investigation centres on a deal Leicester say they did in January 2014 with a company called Trestellar Ltd, to market the club in the UK and south-east Asia. That deal immediately produced an apparent £11m increase in Leicester’s sponsorship and commercial income, reducing the club’s loss from £34m the previous year. In the club’s most recent accounts, for 2014-15, Leicester say Trestellar sold the club’s main sponsorships – the name on the players’ shirts and the stadium – to King Power, the club’s owners.

The Thai owners were already sponsoring the shirt and stadium before the Trestellar deal; in 2012-13 Leicester’s sponsorship and other commercial income was £5.2m. After the Trestellar deal, with King Power still holding the same main sponsorships, the income immediately jumped to £16m.

 

[SheppyFox]

1 hour ago, joachim1965 said:

I don't , please enlighten me.

Google it

[joachim1965]

1 hour ago, SheppyFox said:

Google it

I'll get my boyfriend to do it later.

[Happy Fox]

Everton need a striker, not Sigurdsson.

[Babylon]

53 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Think they all ready did that in 2014

 

The investigation centres on a deal Leicester say they did in January 2014 with a company called Trestellar Ltd, to market the club in the UK and south-east Asia. That deal immediately produced an apparent £11m increase in Leicester’s sponsorship and commercial income, reducing the club’s loss from £34m the previous year. In the club’s most recent accounts, for 2014-15, Leicester say Trestellar sold the club’s main sponsorships – the name on the players’ shirts and the stadium – to King Power, the club’s owners.

The Thai owners were already sponsoring the shirt and stadium before the Trestellar deal; in 2012-13 Leicester’s sponsorship and other commercial income was £5.2m. After the Trestellar deal, with King Power still holding the same main sponsorships, the income immediately jumped to £16m.

 

Yeah, I did say they have treated it as a joke in the past. But, as I mentioned I've not really seen any signs of them doing so currently. We had to do so back then as we were making huge losses, so far we've turned a profit each season.

[Countryfox]

50 minutes ago, joachim1965 said:

I'll get my boyfriend to do it later.

[Gerard]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Yeah, I did say they have treated it as a joke in the past. But, as I mentioned I've not really seen any signs of them doing so currently. We had to do so back then as we were making huge losses, so far we've turned a profit each season.

 

Also it's one thing putting the money down to get you from the Championship to the Premier League but it's a different kettle of fish throwing the money about to get from mid table Premier League to the top four.

 

As far a football club owners go our owners aren't particularly wealthy and I'm sure they don't want to spend 25% of their net worth to fund us getting there, even with FFP aside.

[Dawko]

5 minutes ago, Gerard said:

As far a football club owners go our owners aren't particularly wealthy and I'm sure they don't want to spend 25% of their net worth to fund us getting there.

 

Says we have the 7th richest in England

 

15 richest

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, Gerard said:

 

Also it's one thing putting the money down to get you from the Championship to the Premier League but it's a different kettle of fish throwing the money about to get from mid table Premier League to the top four.

 

As far a football club owners go our owners aren't particularly wealthy and I'm sure they don't want to spend 25% of their net worth to fund us getting there, even with FFP aside.

Not sure where you get your info from but they are the 7th richest in the uk with £3.64 billion.

 

They need to spend £800 million of their own wealth on top of the profit made from the last 2 seasons to get us top 4 ??

[Gerard]

2 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Not sure where you get your info from but they are the 7th richest in the uk with £3.64 billion.

 

They need to spend £800 million of their own wealth on top of the profit made from the last 2 seasons to get us top 4 ??

 

I've read they were worth £2b.

 

The point still stands though they don't want to spend a significant portion of their net worth that they'll never see again. Even Abramovich who was reportedly worth £11b wanted Chelsea to be self sufficient and he got into football when a few hundred million made you a top team which isn't necessarily the case nowadays.

 

As @Babylon has said on this thread already the owners have shown no sign of pumping money into us recently. Our shirt sponsorship is still one of the lowest in the league and undervalued considering our exposure in the last two years.

[Guest]

23 hours ago, Col city fan said:

I've said before, some people post like it's their own money. It isn't and the club is not going to go bust because we buy Gylfi.

I just think that £50m could be better spent on other players. Smalling, Gibson, an RB could all be had for less than £50m total.

 

Having watched the first half or so of Everton's europa match against Slovakian no-hopers last night, they need him much more than we do. Why Keane has gone there I don't understand. A front line led by Rooney and Williams in a back 3, I can see them flirting with relegation.

[HankMarvin]

7 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

I've read they were worth £2b.

 

The point still stands though they don't want to spend a significant portion of their net worth that they'll never see again. Even Abramovich who was reportedly worth £11b wanted Chelsea to be self sufficient and he got into football when a few hundred million made you a top team which isn't necessarily the case nowadays.

 

As @Babylon has said on this thread already the owners have shown no sign of pumping money into us recently. Our shirt sponsorship is still one of the lowest in the league and undervalued considering our exposure in the last two years.

So you think 500 million of their own money is needed to make the top 4, on top of the profit available over the last 3 seasons.

 

isnt the shirt sponsorship situation logical at the moment? Why would they need to pump money in to the club when the finances are massively in the green and not being utilised anyway. This is before we have actually sold anyone.

 

[cc_star]

6 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Not sure where you get your info from but they are the 7th richest in the uk with £3.64 billion.

 

They need to spend £800 million of their own wealth on top of the profit made from the last 2 seasons to get us top 4 ??

Their total wealth is a bit mysterious & various numbers are touted around

 

Most of it is obviously assets as opposed to being available, you'd hope too much of it is not held in Thailand, because it could be seized like Shinawatra's was

 

A team in regular top 8 could spend a few hundred million in the hope of getting top 4 & still miss out... Man City & Chelsea have just about bought a lasting seat at the top table but how much have they spent?

 

FFP prevents that kind of mobility now anyway

[Lcfccon]

6 minutes ago, cc_star said:

Their total wealth is a bit mysterious & various numbers are touted around

 

Most of it is obviously assets as opposed to being available, you'd hope too much of it is not held in Thailand, because it could be seized like Shinawatra's was

 

A team in regular top 8 could spend a few hundred million in the hope of getting top 4 & still miss out... Man City & Chelsea have just about bought a lasting seat at the top table but how much have they spent?

 

FFP prevents that kind of mobility now anyway

Fully agree, it's now becoming impossible for a team like us, Southampton etc to break into the top 6 and be a consistent force (baring a miracle ?) . FFP has helped in so many ways, but it's also created a massive gap between the leagues and a massive gap between teams like us and the so called "big six".

[Gerard]

11 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

So you think 500 million of their own money is needed on top of the profit available over the last 3 seasons.

 

isnt the shirt sponsorship situation logical at the moment? Why would they need to pump money in to the club when the finances are massively in the green and not being utilised anyway. This is before we have actually sold anyone.

 

 

I think £500m would be needed.

 

Even last season as Champions and seeded in the Champions League players who had options still regarded us as a flash in the pan. It needs a few years of sustained success for people to start believing you're a big club as Man City have shown.

 

If the owners were serious about us competing for Champions League qualification season in season out then upgrading the shirt sponsorship would have been an ideal thing to do as we'd need that money sooner rather than later.

 

I'm certainly not knocking our owners because they've been brilliant but if you're really serious at challenging at the higher echelons of the game you need to spend a serious amount of cash like Man City or PSG. Our owners don't have that kind of cash to be able to afford to write that kind of money off without seriously affecting their personal net worth.

[Red Squirrel]

Whoooooa there. Unless I'm a in Bobby Ewing dream.........didn't we win the Premier League recently without spending outrageous money?? I've no doubt that if it were needed our owners would increase the cost of the shirt sponsorship. "Hey Top pop £30M into the Foxes account for a new shirt deal" - Vichai  

[HankMarvin]

26 minutes ago, cc_star said:

Their total wealth is a bit mysterious & various numbers are touted around

 

Most of it is obviously assets as opposed to being available, you'd hope too much of it is not held in Thailand, because it could be seized like Shinawatra's was

 

A team in regular top 8 could spend a few hundred million in the hope of getting top 4 & still miss out... Man City & Chelsea have just about bought a lasting seat at the top table but how much have they spent?

 

FFP prevents that kind of mobility now anyway

Their wealth was listed by Forbes, I'm sure a lot of the foreign owners are in the same situation with regards to assets.

 

I'm not sure how the 7th richest chairmen in a super league of wealthy investors can be considered not particularly wealthy in football terms.

[HankMarvin]

19 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

I think £500m would be needed.

 

Even last season as Champions and seeded in the Champions League players who had options still regarded us as a flash in the pan. It needs a few years of sustained success for people to start believing you're a big club as Man City have shown.

 

If the owners were serious about us competing for Champions League qualification season in season out then upgrading the shirt sponsorship would have been an ideal thing to do as we'd need that money sooner rather than later.

 

I'm certainly not knocking our owners because they've been brilliant but if you're really serious at challenging at the higher echelons of the game you need to spend a serious amount of cash like Man City or PSG. Our owners don't have that kind of cash to be able to afford to write that kind of money off without seriously affecting their personal net worth.

The point I was making is to get us top in the top 4, I wasn't talking about maintaining it as that money you talked about could be over the next 20 years.

 

Investment needed to break into the top 4 

[cc_star]

9 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Their wealth was listed by Forbes, I'm sure a lot of the foreign owners are in the same situation with regards to assets.

 

I'm not sure how the 7th richest chairmen in a super league of wealthy investors can be considered not particularly wealthy in football terms.

Not necessary, dodgy Russians sit on cash piles, as do the Arabs - The Chinese are shaping up a bit like the Russians, with mining/mineral wealth rather than a couple of shops

 

King Power will lose exclusivity in Thai airports on the next few years, any wealth in Thailand could be confiscated at the drop of a hat

 

Our owners are on record of not being interested in spending big & are happy with just being in top half of the table - The leap to being at the top table on a near permanent basis is what? A billion or so? No chance is that happening here, especially after blowing our chance of a good run near the top after Ranieri's disastrous summer

[Red Squirrel]

I am in a dream! I'm sure Vichai committed to spend £180M to get us competing for top 6. 

[Countryfox]

 

Said it before ...   (very) rich mans playground ..    depends how much they want to puff their chests out, swing their balls about, and show the other (very) rich owners that they are  "considerably richer than yow !!" ....     

[cc_star]

19 minutes ago, Red Squirrel said:

I am in a dream! I'm sure Vichai committed to spend £180M to get us competing for top 6. 

Yeah, promoting himself to the Thai press, in Thailand, then we unexpectedly went & won it & had Champions League

 

Now Top said - He's not interested in big fees & he's happy with top half