Dr The Singh Posted 4 October 2017 Posted 4 October 2017 The only way she is going to keep people interested in her is to wear low cut tops and flash some breast...
Izzy Posted 4 October 2017 Posted 4 October 2017 Knew I'd get some stick Ah well, said my piece... This from the BBC describes what I'm saying about TM... Allies of Theresa May say today she has shown her resilience and determination in spades, demonstrating exactly why she deserves to stay in the job. Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson said of the prime minister's performance: "If ever there was a metaphor for battling through adversity, that was it." The PM said it would not be easy, but "it has never been my style to hide from a challenge, to shrink from a task, to retreat in the face of difficulty, to give up and turn away." Lib Dem leader Sir Vince Cable called it "the speech of a brave prime minister struggling on, while her disloyal Cabinet colleagues openly plot against her". Nothing to do with the fact she's a woman FFS
Sharpe's Fox Posted 4 October 2017 Posted 4 October 2017 1 hour ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Knew I'd get some stick Ah well, said my piece... This from the BBC describes what I'm saying about TM... Allies of Theresa May say today she has shown her resilience and determination in spades, demonstrating exactly why she deserves to stay in the job. Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson said of the prime minister's performance: "If ever there was a metaphor for battling through adversity, that was it." The PM said it would not be easy, but "it has never been my style to hide from a challenge, to shrink from a task, to retreat in the face of difficulty, to give up and turn away." Lib Dem leader Sir Vince Cable called it "the speech of a brave prime minister struggling on, while her disloyal Cabinet colleagues openly plot against her". Nothing to do with the fact she's a woman FFS Well thank f uck for public broadcaster impartiality rules is all I'll say.
lifted*fox Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 I hope she continues to crumble tbh. **** her. She doesn't care about shit but herself.
Sampson Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 5 hours ago, KingGTF said: She made it difficult for herself. She called an election because she saw several polls giving her 20+ point lead and tried to use Brexit to disguise her taking advantage of this. Just 6 months ago, the talk was around a Labour Party that couldn't survive and was heading for electoral oblivion, now the talk is of a Conservative Party with no vision and struggling to beat Labour in any age group outside those drawing a pension. She had surrounded herself with the wrong people, shut everyone bar 4 people out, and led the worst election campaign imaginable. She got it all so hopelessly wrong. She managed to turn a fairly strong position with an okay majority into a situation where she has to do dodgy deals with the DUP just to get a budget through, has little hope of actually governing, can't stand up to Cabinet rebellions, and is only still in her job because a)there is no alternative and b)the Conservatives want to get past Brexit negotiations first. I might be inclined to stick up for her if she inherited this but she didn't, even the Brexit agenda was set by her. She's not a leader, she's not a prime minister. Pretty much agree with you yet again KingGTF. No matter what she says or the ideas (and trust me, I love those hour long interviews with men with boring voices, thick glasses, comb overs, tweed jackets and pipes talking about micro Economics and kind of wish all politics was just that) but you do have to show leadership. You do need someone who you can trust to defend this country if needs be and someone who you can imagine sitting in a room with Angela Merkel, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin and actually having their voice heard - regardless of what you thought about Thatcher or Blair politically and Economically - they were leaders who you always felt could actually contribute Britain's representation without just being drowned out across in multi-national debate (and I think Cameron was fine for this too), but I just don't feel about that about May. I did feel sorry for her watching it - she's very much got the same ere (air? heir?) about her as Gordon Brown in 2010 where everything she seems to touch just seems to backfire and I do find myself feeling sorry for her more than anything as I did with Brown more than anything, but it's clear she's not a leader. I don't know, I'd just like to see one of the main 3 parties which is traditionally right-wing on Economic issues and traditionally left-wing on social issues with a leader who is pragmatic and not Utopian or anti-establishment populist who you actually feel would be taken seriously in serious discussion amongst other major international leaders. As silly as the referendum was, I do miss the general stability of the Cameron government when politics wasn't everywhere (which is always the first sign something is going wrong) and think he was a dependable PM. I still have a huge soft spot for the Orange Book Liberals, but the endless harking on about another vote on Brexit rather than getting on with what Brexit means (I was a strong remainer but accept a democratic vote and get on with developing a plan for it for ****'s sake!) is really starting to grate. 1
Jimothy Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 8 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Don’t know how you can say “I’m sure if this was a man...” or “you’re only doing it because..” or “Fact is..” when it’s MY opinion. Regardless of gender, I have the upmost respect for anyone who battles adversity and comes through the other side. It’s a human trait I admire greatly which is why I hope TM is ultimately successful. And how you can say she’s “falling apart physically” just because she had a cough? Bit of an over reaction I’d say. She’s been talking all week close up with people and there’s lots of colds going around. She had a cough. She’s human. Big deal... It's not just the post in here yesterday, it's all your posts about her that imo feel like you're defending her because she's a woman, you even said she's only getting criticised because she's a woman in another thread. Apologies if that's not the case, it's just the way it comes across to me at least. As @KingGTF said, everything that's gone wrong, all the adversity you talk of, she brought on herself. She asked for the job, she set out the Brexit strategy, she called the election and then ran a terrible campaign. She could even get away with that if when the shit hit the fan she came across as a strong leader with compassion, but at Grenfell she came across as cold and heartless. As for the physical part, it's not the cough, it's as @Alf Bentley said, look at her in interviews, she looks ill, she looks worn down and like she's not coping. I have no sympathy for her as it's a situation she's created, and if she is struggling, it's a situation she continues to put herself in.
Sampson Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 4 hours ago, lifted*fox said: I hope she continues to crumble tbh. **** her. She doesn't care about shit but herself. You genuinely want to see the person who runs our country fail because you don't like their personality? Are you also one of those people who if there's a Leicester manager you don't like the personality of you want us to keep losing or get relegated just so they get sacked? (And I don't think I've ever seen a British politician for a major party who didn't go into politics because they genuinely care and wanted to make a positive difference to people's lives, you may profoundly disagree on how they tried to do that but every major British politician I can remember had good intentions). 1
Guest Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 The only reason I want her to stay in the job is that a hard brexiteer night get in otherwise. Do the party members or MPs vote for the next leader? If the MPs do it reduces that risk at least.
Guest MattP Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 26 minutes ago, Sampson said: You genuinely want to see the person who runs our country fail because you don't like their personality? Are you also one of those people who if there's a Leicester manager you don't like the personality of you want us to keep losing or get relegated just so they get sacked? (And I don't think I've ever seen a British politician for a major party who didn't go into politics because they genuinely care and wanted to make a positive difference to people's lives, you may profoundly disagree on how they tried to do that but every major British politician I can remember had good intentions). He posted a couple of weeks ago that he would be happy if someone stuck a bullet in the back of her head. That's the sort of person you are dealing with.
Strokes Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 I didnt think she did too bad, if anything it helped me warm to her (for the first time) watching her battle through. The british love an underdog and if she can regain herself (and learn the lesson of her huge errors of judgement) after this she could genuinely turn things around i think. For the first time she looks human. 1
Popular Post davieG Posted 5 October 2017 Popular Post Posted 5 October 2017 I thought the so called prankster looked a right twat and he wasn't even original or funny The level of heckling and prankstering has seriously deteriorated in the political arena. 8 1
Rocket-Ron Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 14 hours ago, toddybad said: Not as bitter as this 1
Guest Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 9 minutes ago, Rocket-Ron said: Not as bitter as this pretty accurate though
davieG Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 14 minutes ago, Rocket-Ron said: Not as bitter as this Again is that supposed to be funny and clever? It's so contrived and forced cnuts/coconuts really am I missing something? Have I accidentally stumbled across a #Izzy Muzzett joke thread? 1 1 1
surrifox Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 1 hour ago, davieG said: I thought the so called prankster looked a right twat and he wasn't even original or funny The level of heckling and prankstering has seriously deteriorated in the political arena. I can't break the association of the word "prankster" to "w**ker
Rocket-Ron Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 2 hours ago, davieG said: Again is that supposed to be funny and clever? It's so contrived and forced cnuts/coconuts really am I missing something? Have I accidentally stumbled across a #Izzy Muzzett joke thread? It's supposed to be yes. It isn't though I agree
ajthefox Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 (edited) I think it's telling that she never really won the Leadership in the first place, she was just the last one left after a questionable bunch all pulled out from self-inflicted wounds. It's baffling that we're in this position of having two party leaders (that few people actually want) with such a high percentage of the vote, especially given the volatility of the current political climate. Edited 5 October 2017 by ajthefox
lifted*fox Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 10 hours ago, Sampson said: You genuinely want to see the person who runs our country fail because you don't like their personality? Are you also one of those people who if there's a Leicester manager you don't like the personality of you want us to keep losing or get relegated just so they get sacked? (And I don't think I've ever seen a British politician for a major party who didn't go into politics because they genuinely care and wanted to make a positive difference to people's lives, you may profoundly disagree on how they tried to do that but every major British politician I can remember had good intentions). More fool you for thinking that. And yeah, **** her. I hope she continues to bomb.
fuchsntf Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 10 hours ago, Sampson said: You genuinely want to see the person who runs our country fail because you don't like their personality? Are you also one of those people who if there's a Leicester manager you don't like the personality of you want us to keep losing or get relegated just so they get sacked? (And I don't think I've ever seen a British politician for a major party who didn't go into politics because they genuinely care and wanted to make a positive difference to people's lives, you may profoundly disagree on how they tried to do that but every major British politician I can remember had good intentions). Has a total neutral , to the situation...her time on the podest/rostrum whatever, wasnt that bad.In fact no worse than some over the years. Shows again weak supporters, and schoolboy antics from the press. Shes been a ..best of the rest choice, without support, portfolio.After Cameron and Brexit, neither Conservatives and even worse has the opposition Labour both have only buffoons to lead the country No one with good honest leadership.The Ones who stepped downs Had more political character. May should stay, because she is a better front, than anybody else in her party. I am a socialist, but also I see no togetherness in any party, who can honestly hold or take a lead in any policies that they can forge and create for their confused electorate .
Guest MattP Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, lifted*fox said: More fool you for thinking that. And yeah, **** her. I hope she continues to bomb. Do you hope the Brexit negotiations go badly and we suffer or would you rather she oversaw a good deal and turned around her reign to become a successful one? Edited 5 October 2017 by MattP
Sharpe's Fox Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 7 minutes ago, MattP said: Do you hope the Brexit negotiations go badly and we suffer or would you rather she oversaw a good deal and turned around her reign to become a successful one First one. More fun.
Guest Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 11 hours ago, Strokes said: I didnt think she did too bad, if anything it helped me warm to her (for the first time) watching her battle through. The british love an underdog and if she can regain herself (and learn the lesson of her huge errors of judgement) after this she could genuinely turn things around i think. For the first time she looks human.
Guest Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 45 minutes ago, MattP said: Do you hope the Brexit negotiations go badly and we suffer or would you rather she oversaw a good deal and turned around her reign to become a successful one? Why would we suffer when Brexit is the door to reviving a truly great Britain? Unless it was just ****wits voting for a bunch of policies that mean nothing compared to the economic misery they risk, of course.
Guest Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 52 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Has a total neutral , to the situation...her time on the podest/rostrum whatever, wasnt that bad.In fact no worse than some over the years. Shows again weak supporters, and schoolboy antics from the press. Shes been a ..best of the rest choice, without support, portfolio.After Cameron and Brexit, neither Conservatives and even worse has the opposition Labour both have only buffoons to lead the country No one with good honest leadership.The Ones who stepped downs Had more political character. May should stay, because she is a better front, than anybody else in her party. I am a socialist, but also I see no togetherness in any party, who can honestly hold or take a lead in any policies that they can forge and create for their confused electorate . Even more confused electorate after reading that.
Strokes Posted 5 October 2017 Posted 5 October 2017 15 minutes ago, toddybad said: Unless it was just ****wits voting for a bunch of policies that mean nothing compared to the economic misery they risk, of course. This is why labour are now leading the polls.
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