AKCJ Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 Just now, NotTheMarketLeader said: However you dress it they are three failures. That doesn't take away from Walsh finding other gems for us, but here you are defending everything he's done just for the sake of it. I'm not defending anything for the sake of it. You're welcome to think they're "failures". I just think they've not lived up to expectations for things outside of Walsh's control more than their ability as such. Foxestalk seems to want to compare Amartey with Kante or that he's simply not as good as Drinkwater and Ndidi. So he's doomed to be a failure in many people's eyes. The way I see it is that we've got a very capable squad player for peanuts. As I've said with Musa. I would have liked to see him given a run in the side. There was a time in November I think where he seemed to be on the rise a bit and was starting to look more confident but he was dropped again. I think we should accept a decent bid if we get it but I still think he'll score a lot of goals in a team where he's given the right role and a starting position each week. As I've said with Hernandez. Clearly a very good footballer who simply did not settle in England and we got him for free. Hardly a failure, just unlucky.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 Everton's business so far has been pretty pish, they've basically spent 100 mill to fight for 7th rather than actually try and push on.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 On 03/07/2017 at 19:01, st albans fox said: talent spotter? pickford - wow ! who knew how good he is keane - cant believe we didn't try and sign the unknown centre half before sandro ramires - everyone knows how good he is and a snip at 5 mill release clause. klassen - didn't spot him last season ....... these signings are hardly unknowns are they. the fact that everton have got them in reflect on the quality of their manager, their status in English football, their location (re keane) and their qualification for European football. its not identifying the players that's our problem. its convincing those players that we can do it again re champions league qualification and doing the deal with the selling club. With regard to your last paragraph, Shakey V Koeman to foreigners is a no contest for a start I would have thought. Players are more likely to gravitate to a 'name' which was one of the downsides to giving him the job full time. We will have to see if that doesn't turn to be a factor against us, but I suspect it could be the case.
Adster Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 1 minute ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Everton's business so far has been pretty pish, they've basically spent 100 mill to fight for 7th rather than actually try and push on. Totally agree. They've just spent it on up and coming talent. Their signings do not show any sign to me that they'll finish any higher in the table next season, especially if they lose Lukaku.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 13 minutes ago, AKCJ said: I'm not defending anything for the sake of it. You're welcome to think they're "failures". I just think they've not lived up to expectations for things outside of Walsh's control more than their ability as such. Foxestalk seems to want to compare Amartey with Kante or that he's simply not as good as Drinkwater and Ndidi. So he's doomed to be a failure in many people's eyes. The way I see it is that we've got a very capable squad player for peanuts. As I've said with Musa. I would have liked to see him given a run in the side. There was a time in November I think where he seemed to be on the rise a bit and was starting to look more confident but he was dropped again. I think we should accept a decent bid if we get it but I still think he'll score a lot of goals in a team where he's given the right role and a starting position each week. As I've said with Hernandez. Clearly a very good footballer who simply did not settle in England and we got him for free. Hardly a failure, just unlucky. 1. Not comparing Amartey to Kante, just to PL midfielders - not good enough, therefore a failure. 2. Musa - he's 1/3 of the way through his contract and every week is costing us money. He's shown himself to be akin to the proverbial pub player and the manager doesn't fancy him. Needs to go - a failure. 3. Hernandez 'a very good footballer' you say. I didn't witness that at all. He was cumbersome and poor on the ball. Again a failure. We obviously have different interpretations on football abilities and what is a success and what is a failure. I accept that with the gems you are going to get some rubbish, but let's call a spade a spade.
Guest Col city fan Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 5 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: 1. Not comparing Amartey to Kante, just to PL midfielders - not good enough, therefore a failure. 2. Musa - he's 1/3 of the way through his contract and every week is costing us money. He's shown himself to be akin to the proverbial pub player and the manager doesn't fancy him. Needs to go - a failure. 3. Hernandez 'a very good footballer' you say. I didn't witness that at all. He was cumbersome and poor on the ball. Again a failure. We obviously have different interpretations on football abilities and what is a success and what is a failure. Spot on...
cc_star Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 We're missing Steve Walsh inasmuch as he wrapped up the signings before handing off to Rudkin for the formalities whereas Eduardo Macia seems like he's stealing a living from the club Walsh's success rate in signings was better than most too He is a big miss
chicagofox Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 4 hours ago, Fox92 said: Everton have played top flight football for the past 60 or so seasons. They have more honours than us - including 9 league titles - of course they're a bigger club than us. 4 hours ago, dannythefox said: If you don't know I'm not going to bother. 4 hours ago, st albans fox said: Only an LCFC fan could ask this Sunderland, Huddersfield, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Blackburn Rovers, and Burnley have all won more top division titles than Leicester. By the above rationale they are bigger clubs than Leicester? I'm not a deluded Leicester City fan. I didn't go around spouting off last season that we were Premier League champions and therefore better than X, Y, and Z. But there is no reason, today, in the here and now, to suggest that Everton are a bigger club than Leicester. If you want to go back 30 years and tell me that Everton were a bigger club than Leicester in 1985 then I am happy to agree with you.
Fox92 Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 36 minutes ago, chicagofox said: Sunderland, Huddersfield, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Blackburn Rovers, and Burnley have all won more top division titles than Leicester. By the above rationale they are bigger clubs than Leicester? I'm not a deluded Leicester City fan. I didn't go around spouting off last season that we were Premier League champions and therefore better than X, Y, and Z. But there is no reason, today, in the here and now, to suggest that Everton are a bigger club than Leicester. If you want to go back 30 years and tell me that Everton were a bigger club than Leicester in 1985 then I am happy to agree with you. Sunderland, Huddersfield, Wolves and Burnley haven't won as much as Everton. All four clubs, plus ourselves, have all pissed about in the second and third tiers. Some even fourth tier. Everton have been an ever present in the top flight. It's not competition really, especially with the amount they've won. They have 24 major honours which is the 7th best in the Country - the next club near to them is Manchester City with 18.
Chico1958 Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 Yes I miss Walsh Yes I miss Claudio Yes I miss Kante Yes I will miss Mahrez But it doesn't alter the fact, we're appear to be doing good business to date. So I'm more than happy to say Leicester are still the team I support and will do whoever goes through the revolving door. And if Rudkin contiues to pull rabbits out of the hat like he has so far............ I'll even miss him if he goes
chicagofox Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 44 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Sunderland, Huddersfield, Wolves and Burnley haven't won as much as Everton. All four clubs, plus ourselves, have all pissed about in the second and third tiers. Some even fourth tier. Everton have been an ever present in the top flight. It's not competition really, especially with the amount they've won. They have 24 major honours which is the 7th best in the Country - the next club near to them is Manchester City with 18. This is only relevant if you live in the past, the distant past in Everton's case. I prefer to live in the present. So Everton have won more honors than Man City and have been ever present in the top flight, unlike Man City. Please don't tell me you think Everton are also a bigger club than Man City? Because based on your criteria they are but you surely can't think that is the case in 2017.
Fox92 Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 1 minute ago, chicagofox said: This is only relevant if you live in the past, the distant past in Everton's case. I prefer to live in the present. So Everton have won more honors than Man City and have been ever present in the top flight, unlike Man City. Please don't tell me you think Everton are also a bigger club than Man City? Because based on your criteria they are but you surely can't think that is the case in 2017. No I don't think Everton are bigger than Manchester City but Everton are bigger than us. On your criteria, we're bigger than Arsenal.
chicagofox Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 14 minutes ago, Chico1958 said: Yes I miss Walsh Yes I miss Claudio Yes I miss Kante Yes I will miss Mahrez But it doesn't alter the fact, we're appear to be doing good business to date. So I'm more than happy to say Leicester are still the team I support and will do whoever goes through the revolving door. And if Rudkin contiues to pull rabbits out of the hat like he has so far............ I'll even miss him if he goes Chico, what are you talking about mate? Clearly you didn't get the memo that everyone else did. Our business this close-season has been sh!t. And it will continue to be sh!t for the rest of time unless we get Steve Walsh back.
chicagofox Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 2 minutes ago, Fox92 said: On your criteria, we're bigger than Arsenal. How do you work that one out?
Fox92 Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 1 minute ago, chicagofox said: How do you work that one out? They haven't won a league title since 2004.
Chico1958 Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 30 minutes ago, chicagofox said: Chico, what are you talking about mate? Clearly you didn't get the memo that everyone else did. Our business this close-season has been sh!t. And it will continue to be sh!t for the rest of time unless we get Steve Walsh back. Sorry I must have missed it Could you pass it on so I can get myself up to date with whats going on It would appear I'm in a twilight zone and every one else is out there in the real world You know the one........... Where everything we do is sh!t Thanks for putting me right........... Bring back Steve Walsh
dannythefox Posted 6 July 2017 Posted 6 July 2017 3 hours ago, chicagofox said: Sunderland, Huddersfield, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Blackburn Rovers, and Burnley have all won more top division titles than Leicester. By the above rationale they are bigger clubs than Leicester? I'm not a deluded Leicester City fan. I didn't go around spouting off last season that we were Premier League champions and therefore better than X, Y, and Z. But there is no reason, today, in the here and now, to suggest that Everton are a bigger club than Leicester. If you want to go back 30 years and tell me that Everton were a bigger club than Leicester in 1985 then I am happy to agree with you. They've been playing in the division for 25+ years that alone makes them bigger than us imo.
RODNEY FERNIO Posted 27 August 2017 Author Posted 27 August 2017 Doesn't seem Mr Walsh is flavour of the month up in toffee land at the moment. Lazy ***** , get out of our club , imposter etc etc. Good job the posters on Foxes Talk never overreact like this after a bad result.
vanity Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 On 7/3/2017 at 10:41, RODNEY FERNIO said: Not the ex player for City but the ex talent spotter for City ? Everton have obviously gone in to overdrive transfer wise but are we just waiting for the right time to buy like most other premier league clubs seem to be doing ? What talent has Walsh spotted this transfer window that wasn't self-evident and required only the will to spend 50 million here and 40 million there?
Babylon Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 30 minutes ago, RODNEY FERNIO said: Doesn't seem Mr Walsh is flavour of the month up in toffee land at the moment. Lazy ***** , get out of our club , imposter etc etc. Good job the posters on Foxes Talk never overreact like this after a bad result. They've been up his arse all summer, shows how fickle they are after losing a game. They sound worse than Leicester fans.
vanity Posted 28 August 2017 Posted 28 August 2017 5 hours ago, Babylon said: They've been up his arse all summer, shows how fickle they are after losing a game. They sound worse than Leicester fans. We'll still take Gylfi. Not at retail, but 40 or so inclusive. Send him our way.
murphy Posted 28 August 2017 Posted 28 August 2017 On 06/07/2017 at 15:04, cc_star said: We're missing Steve Walsh inasmuch as he wrapped up the signings before handing off to Rudkin for the formalities whereas Eduardo Macia seems like he's stealing a living from the club Walsh's success rate in signings was better than most too He is a big miss Overall his record is very good, but that last transfer window was almost industrial sabotage.
fairbanksh Posted 28 August 2017 Posted 28 August 2017 I worry about the quality and effectiveness of our recruitment Initially some good signing, Maguire esp But we shouldn't be in this position with a few days to go There seems to be no plan B Its also totally beyond me that there appears to be no interest in r/b cover
HankMarvin Posted 28 August 2017 Posted 28 August 2017 His remit of finding players for an Everton side with huge investment and the lukaku money is a lot different to having to spend his time looking for unearthed gems as he did here in the first few seasons
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