lcfcdamo Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 God help us if we lose marhez i feel for vardy we have no1 who can create anything we cant even put more than two passes together i just dont get why we can't friendly or not that was very worrying today
davieG Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 1 hour ago, cc_star said: Just assuming we don't sign anyone else, or lose Mahrez - I think there's far more we could do in a 4231, 352, 433 where the players can express themselves on the ball more than they are doing with better movement that the players could make & tighter passing Obviously it's about a system to win a league or cup game and not much else matters but I'm disappointed we're not using preseason as a way to have a look If they have that in them they could do it in a 442 formation there's nothing in that system that stops them.
FireFox Posted 29 July 2017 Posted 29 July 2017 KasperAmartey/Benalouane Morgan/HuthMaguire AlbrightonNdidiIborra James/DrinkyFuchs/ChilwellMahrez/Lawrence/GrayVardy
CosbehFox Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 13 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: Somehow we went from a fast counterattacking team passing the ball quickly through the midfield after defending and pinching the ball and playing a style of football that no one could handle and evolved it into a style that wouldn't look out of place in the Sunday league. We've not gone forward, we've gone backwards.... big time When have we binned it off then competitively? At the end of the season when we were we're safe and injury hit? When Ranieri lost the plot? The system requires a lot of hard graft and players simply won't do that during pre season (or in games with no importance to them)
ZeGuy Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 13 hours ago, daz*dsb said: Absolutely incredible how we found the right formula and we've just binned it off to replace it with hot potato hoof and hope football. Even if it was all down to Kante, we should have splashed an absolute shit ton of money on a player who'd allow us to continue with the winning formula. Instead we spent a load of cash on several ****ing duds and we've gone so far backwards we've disappeared into our own arsehole and beyond. It's truly baffling. Absolutely mind blowing bullshit. So colorfully described.
Stadt Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 This is where coaching makes a huge difference, we don't look like we're capable of orchestrating decent build up play. Lack of supporting movement, lack of direction and we don't really have the ability (Maguire aside) to comfortably progress with the ball. What compounds our lack of creativity is the loss of aggressive pressing too, despite what some people think we've never pressed too high up the pitch but we'd apply a lot of pressure in the central third which'd force turnovers conducive to dangerous attacks. Klopp once said counterpressing is the best playmaker and he's right to some extent as winning the ball quickly whilst the opposition is committing players forward does lead to opportunities but under Shakey we've gradually became more negative.
Nick Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 Well the back four and the CDM's in the last 20 yesterday played the ball on the deck and looked good on the ball. The problem in my mind is that there is no central creative link between the midfield and the two forwards. The opposition stifled the wingers and we were screwed. We have wingers that can provide creativity and four in the middle players who are really defensive midfielders - all can get forward and pick a pass on their day but we need not just somebody who can play fwd/no.10 with the ball at their feet but also a central midfielder who can be a a heartbeat of the team and be centrally creative or we need the Drinky of old back who can get forward and exploit space and movement because he has the cover behind him...
Nick Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 27 minutes ago, Wookie said: This is where coaching makes a huge difference, we don't look like we're capable of orchestrating decent build up play. Lack of supporting movement, lack of direction and we don't really have the ability (Maguire aside) to comfortably progress with the ball. What compounds our lack of creativity is the loss of aggressive pressing too, despite what some people think we've never pressed too high up the pitch but we'd apply a lot of pressure in the central third which'd force turnovers conducive to dangerous attacks. Klopp once said counterpressing is the best playmaker and he's right to some extent as winning the ball quickly whilst the opposition is committing players forward does lead to opportunities but under Shakey we've gradually became more negative. Good post.
lifted*fox Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 48 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: So colorfully described. That's how I roll!
Vindaloo FOX Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 Vardy will be a bench warmer this season. Slim and Iheanacho will hit it off like a house on fire and score goals for fun !!
ZeGuy Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 18 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said: Vardy will be a bench warmer this season. Slim and Iheanacho will hit it off like a house on fire and score goals for fun !! Not sure if serious. Don't think Iheanacho will come.
Vindaloo FOX Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 3 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: Not sure if serious. Don't think Iheanacho will come. i am deadly serious and Iheanacho will be a Leicester player .
Foxxed Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 3 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said: i am deadly serious and Iheanacho will be a Leicester player . Bet he won't. In what world do contracts take this long? And if he had any doubts I reckon they've been compounded with our last three results. He'll stay in Manchester chatting up wags raking in the money. Shakespeare will have to perform miracle.
lgfualol Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 Iheanacho probably doesn't fancy trying to beat massive defenders to headers from Morgan hoofs for entire games and binned off the deal.
ozleicester Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 Had Vardy scored the SITTER in the tenth minute... we would all be sitting back saying, yup, 15/16 all over again.
ZeGuy Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 9 minutes ago, ozleicester said: Had Vardy scored the SITTER in the tenth minute... we would all be sitting back saying, yup, 15/16 all over again. It was a fantastic save from the defender and i don't blame vardy that much. That would be incredibly optimistic to say the least. Last season already proved that with an out of form DD and against a team who play with 5 in the middle, the 4-4-2 isn't the answer as the midfield is constantly overran. The static play and lack of any movement forward was worrying. Shinji was lost on the pitch, Mahrez hardly get any decent ball or support and when he got it, often made the wrong decision and Vardy was completely starved.
ZeGuy Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 1 hour ago, Vindaloo FOX said: i am deadly serious and Iheanacho will be a Leicester player . I'll believe it when I see it. The longer it takes the less I believe in this "deal".
Grebfromgrebland Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 16 minutes ago, ozleicester said: Had Vardy scored the SITTER in the tenth minute... we would all be sitting back saying, yup, 15/16 all over again. I think the issue is that he did miss it so if our game plan revolves around creating one or two chances then that is the difference between a good season and bad one.
ozleicester Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 1 minute ago, ZeGuy said: It was a fantastic save from the defender and i don't blame vardy that much. That would be incredibly optimistic to say the least. Last season already proved that with an out of form DD and against a team who play with 5 in the middle, the 4-4-2 isn't the answer as the midfield is constantly overran. The static play and lack of any movement forward was worrying. Shinji was lost on the pitch, Mahrez hardly get any decent ball or support and when he got it, often made the wrong decision and Vardy was completely starved. It was an appalling finish by Vardy... sure its preseason and you can accept a rustyness, but that was incredibly poor... most 12 year old players would have done better.
foxes21 Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 We don't have to change our style of play. But our style of play can be improved, with a few changes: - A RB that can attack and defend - Another creative winger - A hard working flair player at number 10 However we'd need to scout hidden gems or spend a lot of money, to get these kind of players.
SheppyFox Posted 30 July 2017 Posted 30 July 2017 We will be horrendously boring the watch if we lose mahrez and do not buy some serious quality in terms of creativity. I'll bet good money Huddersfield have better possession % and pass success rate than us, in both meetings we have with them next year. I do still believe it'll be 6 points to the good however, although an unfortunate manner of victory (being out played and hitting on the break)
WigstonWanderer Posted 31 July 2017 Posted 31 July 2017 On 30/07/2017 at 02:46, davieG said: Can we play any other way with the players we have and produce better results? I suspect not because we don't have enough players with the football brain and football skills to do it. We don't even do something as basic as a defence splitting pass to a player running through or any such variations of that. We used to
cc_star Posted 31 July 2017 Author Posted 31 July 2017 6 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said: We used to Albrighton, Fuchs & Mahrez regularly do... Slimani even got on it Vs Luton My issue is that our tactics pander to the hopeful hoof... it's very difficult to get on the ball when you're outnumbered in the middle of the pitch every week & everyone gets 70% possession against us... This isn't an issue when the team is on song as our PL win showed, but when one or two players are less than their best - We've got nothing but hopeful punts to rely on
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