Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Buce]

41 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

This body positivity nonesense has gotten to the point of ridiculousness. 

 

Telling the morbidly obese they're beautiful and stunning is not only a shameless lie - people like lizzo are physically sickening - but also dangerous to society. Its not beautiful and courageous. Its morbidly obese. It's dangerous. 

 

There is no such thing as a standardised definition of beauty; your particular definition is a time period and culture-specific one. In Polynesian society, your 'physically sickening' person would be regarded as someone of exceptional beauty, just the same as they would at various points in our own history.

 

Your willingness to judge people on their physical appearance says more about you than it does about them.

[foxile5]

34 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

There is no such thing as a standardised definition of beauty; your particular definition is a time period and culture-specific one. In Polynesian society, your 'physically sickening' person would be regarded as someone of exceptional beauty, just the same as they would at various points in our own history.

 

Your willingness to judge people on their physical appearance says more about you than it does about them.

Morbid obesity, which is what that is, is a health risk approaching the level of smoking. 

 

We shouldn't be glorifying that, which we are. 

[foxile5]

49 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

I think describing someone’s appearance as “physically sickening” probably just makes you look a bit of a dickhead 

Perhaps, yeah. Maybe a touch of overstatement there from myself. 

[SpacedX]

3 hours ago, Buce said:

 

There is no such thing as a standardised definition of beauty; your particular definition is a time period and culture-specific one. In Polynesian society, your 'physically sickening' person would be regarded as someone of exceptional beauty, just the same as they would at various points in our own history.

 

Your willingness to judge people on their physical appearance says more about you than it does about them.

Difficult one this. In traditional 'Polynesian society' the fact that there was no standardised age of consent - if at all - is also a a question of time period and cultural specificity. In the context of historical cultural norms and in the absence of western taboos, this would have endured since the greater ethical and biological ramifications were not understood.

 

We now know that obesity is a growing healthcare crisis - and I believe that's the point that was being made. This transcends cultural traits whilst addressing this is not about making judgements simply based upon appearance, it's about education and advocacy of an alternative lifestyle. I do agree with foxile5 that it shouldn't be celebrated - but no one should be vilified or branded as "physically sickening". Your point about our subjective learned frames of reference is a very valid one nonetheless. 

Edited 7 November 2021 by Line-X

[foxile5]

1 minute ago, Line-X said:

Difficult one this. In traditional 'Polynesian society' the fact that there was no standardised age of consent - if at all - was also a time period and a culture-specific one. In the context of historical cultural norms and in the absence of western taboos, this would have endured since the greater ethical and biological ramifications were not understood.

 

We now know that obesity is a growing healthcare crisis - and I believe that's the point that was being made. This transcends cultural traits whilst addressing this is not about making judgements simply based upon appearance, it's about education and advocacy of an alternative lifestyle. Similarly, it I do agree with foxile5 that it shouldn't be celebrated. 

Yeah I've been ham-fisted in explanation and people are focusing on that. 

 

Telling someone who's morbidly obese that they're a role model and brave and great isn't healthy for society. It makes glamorous the dangerous. 

[SpacedX]

2 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Yeah I've been ham-fisted in explanation and people are focusing on that. 

 

Telling someone who's morbidly obese that they're a role model and brave and great isn't healthy for society. It makes glamorous the dangerous. 

Agree. I was just editing my comment to add more emphasis to that when you posted this. 

[Tim'llFixIt]

I have no issues with obese people being role models .... But being a role model in terms of glorifying their unhealthy weight is unacceptable ... I find this more so with women "Big girls that, curvy girls that" and I think it is a cop out used by lazy People as an excuse for stuffing their face and in time putting strain on the bodies and our health system.

 

If you are big and offended by this then I can only apologise, there is nothing wrong with you or your body but let's not advertise that life style to our youth

 

 

Edited 7 November 2021 by Tim'llFixIt

[The Blur]

1 hour ago, foxile5 said:

Yeah I've been ham-fisted in explanation and people are focusing on that. 

 

Telling someone who's morbidly obese that they're a role model and brave and great isn't healthy for society. It makes glamorous the dangerous. 

I can see where you are coming from but I usually find that people attracting praise are usually slightly aimed at curvy/overweight rather than morbidly obese although.  I don't have a problem with the aim of eliminating negativity or toxicity or stigma for overweight people but can see how the lines between eliminating negativity and normalising being significantly overweight without appreciating consequences can become unclear.  

 

[Buce]

3 hours ago, foxile5 said:

Yeah I've been ham-fisted in explanation and people are focusing on that. 

 

Telling someone who's morbidly obese that they're a role model and brave and great isn't healthy for society. It makes glamorous the dangerous. 

 

My issue was with you conflating your subjective views of what constitutes physical attraction with obesity, something you now accept was 'clumsy'.

 

I readily agree that obesity shouldn't be glamorised or lauded as a desirable condition regarding healthy living.

Edited 7 November 2021 by Buce

[Nalis]

5 hours ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

I find Chris Sutton an entertaining listen on both 606 and on BT Sport. He can be a wind up merchant but he has a dry sense of humour and is quite amusing.

He is best placed as co-commentator as opposed to a pundit.

 

 

[Daggers]

On 06/11/2021 at 12:04, Daggers said:

Further, fireworks are shit.

I am an idiot - this firework was not shit.

 

 

 

[Daggers]

Anyone ordering chips with Chinese or curry needs locking up for their own good.

[ozleicester]

21 hours ago, foxile5 said:

Morbid obesity, which is what that is, is a health risk approaching the level of smoking. 

 

We shouldn't be glorifying that, which we are. 

 

21 hours ago, Line-X said:

Difficult one this. In traditional 'Polynesian society' the fact that there was no standardised age of consent - if at all - is also a a question of time period and cultural specificity. In the context of historical cultural norms and in the absence of western taboos, this would have endured since the greater ethical and biological ramifications were not understood.

 

We now know that obesity is a growing healthcare crisis - and I believe that's the point that was being made. This transcends cultural traits whilst addressing this is not about making judgements simply based upon appearance, it's about education and advocacy of an alternative lifestyle. I do agree with foxile5 that it shouldn't be celebrated - but no one should be vilified or branded as "physically sickening". Your point about our subjective learned frames of reference is a very valid one nonetheless. 

Interesting read here...

[ozleicester]

11 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Anyone ordering chips with Chinese or curry needs locking up for their own good.

Fixed it for you

[Oxfordfox83]

9 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

Fixed it for you

I think you’ve just completed the thread. Anyone with a less popular opinion than this is making it up…

[ozleicester]

2 minutes ago, Oxfordfox83 said:

I think you’ve just completed the thread. Anyone with a less popular opinion than this is making it up…

Curry is shit... tastes like shit, burns the crap out of your mouth, throat and guts...then you fill the world with minute particles of shit food... then it gets even worse coming out the back...

PLUS it is surrounded by imbecilic manboys all shouting about how they ate the hottest bucket of shit ever and burnt their arse more than anyone else in the world.

[Oxfordfox83]

9 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

Curry is shit... tastes like shit, burns the crap out of your mouth, throat and guts...then you fill the world with minute particles of shit food... then it gets even worse coming out the back...

PLUS it is surrounded by imbecilic manboys all shouting about how they ate the hottest bucket of shit ever and burnt their arse more than anyone else in the world.

I reckon this says more about Australia than it does curry…

[FoxesDeb]

1 hour ago, ozleicester said:

Curry is shit... tastes like shit, burns the crap out of your mouth, throat and guts...then you fill the world with minute particles of shit food... then it gets even worse coming out the back...

PLUS it is surrounded by imbecilic manboys all shouting about how they ate the hottest bucket of shit ever and burnt their arse more than anyone else in the world.

I said the same when someone said roast dinners are shit. If you think all curry is shit, it's because you've never had a decent one, and they don't have to be hot! Plus the variety of curry is so vast, it's a bit like saying you don't like any biscuits just because you don't like rich tea. 

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, Oxfordfox83 said:

I reckon this says more about Australia than it does curry…

This is how to shut a bad argument down  

[TiffToff88]

2 hours ago, Daggers said:

Anyone ordering chips with Chinese or curry needs locking up for their own good.

Plain chips, I agree, but Salt and Pepper/Chilli chips are the dogs danglies.

[The Bear]

2 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Curry is shit... tastes like shit, burns the crap out of your mouth, throat and guts...then you fill the world with minute particles of shit food... then it gets even worse coming out the back...

PLUS it is surrounded by imbecilic manboys all shouting about how they ate the hottest bucket of shit ever and burnt their arse more than anyone else in the world.

I'm of the same opinion regards to morons bragging about how hot they can eat. I knew one lad at work who'd deliberately make stuff hotter than he could handle, or bring in really hot chillies at work and eat them. He'd inevitably end up with stomach pain and going to the toilet for the next couple of hours, but he still thought it was great. People gonna be idiots. 

 

On the flip side, I love a curry, I just don't like them any hotter than medium. I like to taste my food. A good curry paste or sauce is fantastic, and poppadoms and chapatis/parathas are brilliant for mopping up with. That's before you mention mango chutney or mint sauce to dip your stuff in. 

 

I also know someone who likes curry but hates rice. So he always has chips with his for his carbs. 

[Daggers]

47 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said:

Plain chips, I agree, but Salt and Pepper/Chilli chips are the dogs danglies.

We should be allowed to ship people like you off to Australia.

[Daggers]

3 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Curry is shit... tastes like shit, burns the crap out of your mouth, throat and guts...then you fill the world with minute particles of shit food... then it gets even worse coming out the back...

PLUS it is surrounded by imbecilic manboys all shouting about how they ate the hottest bucket of shit ever and burnt their arse more than anyone else in the world.

Countries that invent Vegemite, Fosters, and animals with pockets don't get to pour scorn on other nation's masterpieces.

 

You just fear the repercussions of a good curry because the toilets are crawling with dangerous biting and stinging things. Sort out your spiders and snakes and you will see a phal in a whole new light. Hell, you could probably make a good vindaloo out of the snakes solving two problems in one go.

[The Bear]

58 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said:

Plain chips, I agree, but Salt and Pepper/Chilli chips are the dogs danglies.

I tried sweet potato fries for the first time the other week. Loved them. 

[Guest Manini]

I’ve always enjoyed curry but found it much better without rice. Just a curry and a naan bread/popadom is the perfect combination - the rice isn’t needed all that much.