Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[The Bear]

5 hours ago, Nalis said:

I like Diamond Lights by Hoddle and Waddle

 

Not in an ironic or so bad its good kind of way, I genuinely think its a good song.

That's a genuinely terrible opinion 

[Finnegan]

On 01/11/2021 at 18:39, murphy said:

Greta Thunberg has a voice like a gattling gun and would really get her message across a bit better if she threw in the odd joke or at least a smile.

 

You mean the selectively mute teenager with Asperger's syndrome most commonly communicating in her second language isn't as good an orator as you'd like? 

[murphy]

10 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

You mean the selectively mute teenager with Asperger's syndrome most commonly communicating in her second language isn't as good an orator as you'd like? 

Yes.  That's the one. 

 

 

Edited 4 November 2021 by murphy

[LiberalFox]

Not an unpopular opinion per se but I don't think I've ever actually listened to Greta Thunberg. Always thought it was nice for the younger generation to have a role model. 

[jgtuk]

28 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

Does anyone actually read or listen to much of the media reports on what Greta Thunberg does in the world? I'm not knocking her, what she does is obviously for the greater good, but don't think I've ever had or over heard a conversation where someone has said "did you see what Greta Thunberg did the other day?".

 

Just seems like she's pushed into the limelight by the media all the time, but genuinely never known of anyone to actually pay much attention. 

I have quite a few conversations about her with my family and she is very popular with my youngest daughter and peers at Uni.

The fact that she is regularly mentioned on a football forum full of mostly males (probably majority white middle aged) is quite something

[LiberalFox]

9 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

It's amazing how for something that's no more harmful than smoking normal cigarettes and could be taxed like ****, whilst also stopping a lot of kids from winding up in drug dealing gangs, there is such an objection in this country to legalize it. Genuinely can't think of a bad reason for the people in charge. Oh well, at least it's cheaper for the consumers without the tax. 

We aren't actually a very liberal country. 

[jgtuk]

26 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

It's amazing how for something that's no more harmful than smoking normal cigarettes and could be taxed like ****, whilst also stopping a lot of kids from winding up in drug dealing gangs, there is such an objection in this country to legalize it. Genuinely can't think of a bad reason for the people in charge. Oh well, at least it's cheaper for the consumers without the tax. 

Hopefully, a change will come sooner rather than later. Not a user myself but an advocate for change, with legislation of course.

[Buce]

1 hour ago, pmcla26 said:

It's amazing how for something that's no more harmful than smoking normal cigarettes and could be taxed like ****, whilst also stopping a lot of kids from winding up in drug dealing gangs, there is such an objection in this country to legalize it. Genuinely can't think of a bad reason for the people in charge. Oh well, at least it's cheaper for the consumers without the tax. 

 

The Tories don't like you to have drugs that make you think.

[Nalis]

The thing that annoys me about the cannabis debate when it props up is the usual 'what about alcohol?!?!' input. Hardly as binary as that is it?

[Brizzle Fox]

2 hours ago, jgtuk said:

I have quite a few conversations about her with my family and she is very popular with my youngest daughter and peers at Uni.

The fact that she is regularly mentioned on a football forum full of mostly males (probably majority white middle aged) is quite something

Yup. She's an absolute icon to a lot of kids / young adults. This is a good thing in my book. 

[String fellow]

32 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

The Tories don't like you to have drugs that make you think.

Don't forget that use of drugs can easily lead to misuse of drugs. Once that happens, they can affect every part of someone's life. Not only do they impair bodily health, they interfere with one's relationships, and can change the way one sees the world. They can also damage the brain. It's an incredibly delicate organ and the misuse of prescription drugs, heroine, cocaine, hallucinogens and other types of drugs can cause the brain considerable harm. Suggesting that drugs make you think better and the 'Tories' don't like them because of that, isn't very helpful, to put it politely. 

[jgtuk]

38 minutes ago, String fellow said:

Don't forget that use of drugs can easily lead to misuse of drugs. Once that happens, they can affect every part of someone's life. Not only do they impair bodily health, they interfere with one's relationships, and can change the way one sees the world. They can also damage the brain. It's an incredibly delicate organ and the misuse of prescription drugs, heroine, cocaine, hallucinogens and other types of drugs can cause the brain considerable harm. Suggesting that drugs make you think better and the 'Tories' don't like them because of that, isn't very helpful, to put it politely. 

It's almost as though you're describing alcohol.

[Dahnsouff]

3 hours ago, LiberalFox said:

We aren't actually a very liberal country. 

Compared to?

[LiberalFox]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Compared to?

Liberal principles. 

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, LiberalFox said:

Liberal principles. 

Bit vague. 

[Tim'llFixIt]

1 hour ago, String fellow said:

Don't forget that use of drugs can easily lead to misuse of drugs. Once that happens, they can affect every part of someone's life. Not only do they impair bodily health, they interfere with one's relationships, and can change the way one sees the world. They can also damage the brain. It's an incredibly delicate organ and the misuse of prescription drugs, heroine, cocaine, hallucinogens and other types of drugs can cause the brain considerable harm. Suggesting that drugs make you think better and the 'Tories' don't like them because of that, isn't very helpful, to put it politely. 

Drugs is a very broad term my friend, comparing marijuana to heroin and their effects on the brain is a complete extreme and an argument that holds no ground, alcohol and nicotine are far more destructive than marijuana even in moderation

[Blarmy]

 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

Scone is pronounced scone, not scone, and I'll fight anyone who says differently.

[String fellow]

1 hour ago, Tim'llFixIt said:

Drugs is a very broad term my friend, comparing marijuana to heroin and their effects on the brain is a complete extreme and an argument that holds no ground, alcohol and nicotine are far more destructive than marijuana even in moderation

I realise that 'drugs' is a very broad term, but even marijuana can cause brain abnormalities, according to some experts. As far as the abuse of prescription drugs is concerned, that caused the death of a close family member and a friend of mine is now paraplegic as an indirect result of their liking for cocaine. So liberals, feel free to laugh at me if you wish. I'd expect nothing else, but I've seen for myself how the addictive nature of drugs can lead to really bad things happening.

https://www.addictioncenter.com/drugs/marijuana/kill-brain-cells/

 https://www.verywellmind.com/even-casual-marijuana-use-causes-changes-in-the-brain-67797

[Tim'llFixIt]

5 minutes ago, String fellow said:

I realise that 'drugs' is a very broad term, but even marijuana can cause brain abnormalities, according to some experts. As far as the abuse of prescription drugs is concerned, that caused the death of a close family member and a friend of mine is now paraplegic as an indirect result of their liking for cocaine. So liberals, feel free to laugh at me if you wish. I'd expect nothing else, but I've seen for myself how the addictive nature of drugs can lead to really bad things happening.

https://www.addictioncenter.com/drugs/marijuana/kill-brain-cells/

 https://www.verywellmind.com/even-casual-marijuana-use-causes-changes-in-the-brain-67797

I'm not laughing at you, I agree drugs change and often ruin lives but criminalising them clearly does nothing to prevent this. 

 

I do not believe that these articles are peer reviewed in a medical sense but there is arguably some truth there, however no where near enough trusty to outweigh the benefits of decimalisation of marijuana, which was the point originally made by the poster you quoted.

 

Addiction is an illness that needs funding, support and education, not jail time.

[jgtuk]

23 minutes ago, String fellow said:

I realise that 'drugs' is a very broad term, but even marijuana can cause brain abnormalities, according to some experts. As far as the abuse of prescription drugs is concerned, that caused the death of a close family member and a friend of mine is now paraplegic as an indirect result of their liking for cocaine. So liberals, feel free to laugh at me if you wish. I'd expect nothing else, but I've seen for myself how the addictive nature of drugs can lead to really bad things happening.

https://www.addictioncenter.com/drugs/marijuana/kill-brain-cells/

 https://www.verywellmind.com/even-casual-marijuana-use-causes-changes-in-the-brain-67797

No offence mate but your anecdotes don’t count for anything when you weigh up the evidence. The only reason we have an archaic drug law is that no politician is brave enough to take it on. I hate using the alcohol comparison but have you seen the damage caused by it. It’s responsible for all the things you’ve witnessed plus more. 
Prohibition and criminalisation do not work.

Edited 3 November 2021 by jgtuk

[Milo]

I've not researched this at all, so please feel free to let loose and fill in my educational gaps...but is weed legal in any country in Europe?

 

I've been to Amsterdam on numerous occasions, and happily spent time in coffee shops - but they are quite specific about what they do and sell, and I probably wouldn't stroll around an Amsterdam high street in the middle of the day with a spliff on the go. (or would that be ok? I don't know)

 

Were Spain doing something to legalise cannabis? But again, I'm not sure if freely and happily smoking pot in public is a thing there. 

 

I spent many years in the Caribbean, where (in Barbados anyway) cannabis was most definitely illegal and also almost compulsory! I think Canada and some US states have legalised it - but again, I'm not sure of the absolute definition/working of the law is.  

 

I'm not talking about medicinal prescriptions for weed, or indeed the benefits or otherwise of it - I'm just curious if any of our neighbours have decriminalised it to such an extent that you can sit on a park bench/wander down the street, drive a car, etc with a joint on the go. 

 

  

[Carl the Llama]

1 hour ago, String fellow said:

I realise that 'drugs' is a very broad term, but even marijuana can cause brain abnormalities, according to some experts. As far as the abuse of prescription drugs is concerned, that caused the death of a close family member and a friend of mine is now paraplegic as an indirect result of their liking for cocaine. So liberals, feel free to laugh at me if you wish. I'd expect nothing else, but I've seen for myself how the addictive nature of drugs can lead to really bad things happening.

https://www.addictioncenter.com/drugs/marijuana/kill-brain-cells/

 https://www.verywellmind.com/even-casual-marijuana-use-causes-changes-in-the-brain-67797

I highly recommend looking up David Nutt's taxpayer funded research on individual and social harm of various drugs.

Not going to bite at the conflation of cannabis and cocaine.

[peach0000]

3 hours ago, Milo said:

I've not researched this at all, so please feel free to let loose and fill in my educational gaps...but is weed legal in any country in Europe?

 

I've been to Amsterdam on numerous occasions, and happily spent time in coffee shops - but they are quite specific about what they do and sell, and I probably wouldn't stroll around an Amsterdam high street in the middle of the day with a spliff on the go. (or would that be ok? I don't know)

 

Were Spain doing something to legalise cannabis? But again, I'm not sure if freely and happily smoking pot in public is a thing there. 

 

I spent many years in the Caribbean, where (in Barbados anyway) cannabis was most definitely illegal and also almost compulsory! I think Canada and some US states have legalised it - but again, I'm not sure of the absolute definition/working of the law is.  

 

I'm not talking about medicinal prescriptions for weed, or indeed the benefits or otherwise of it - I'm just curious if any of our neighbours have decriminalised it to such an extent that you can sit on a park bench/wander down the street, drive a car, etc with a joint on the go. 

 

  

To answer your questions, the Amsterdam one I'm pretty sure would be fine. You can certainly smoke in public. Spain they have private clubs that can sell and use it legally. You just pay for a membership (normally a token fee) and then you can sit in clubs and use it freely but not in public. The other European city where the use is as good as legal is Copenhagen. While technically illegal you can go to Christiania district and buy and smoke freely. The authorities just accept it to keep peace.

 

In terms of legalisation I can see the pros and cons. I tend to lean on the side of legalisation purely because it's so wide spread anyway and the police don't do anything that it might as well be taxed to give some financial support to services dealing with the effects of it. However I've also had friends who I've seen become dependent on the stuff to get through the day and quite frankly seen it have a very negative effect on their lives. 

[Buce]

7 hours ago, Milo said:

I've not researched this at all, so please feel free to let loose and fill in my educational gaps...but is weed legal in any country in Europe?

 

I've been to Amsterdam on numerous occasions, and happily spent time in coffee shops - but they are quite specific about what they do and sell, and I probably wouldn't stroll around an Amsterdam high street in the middle of the day with a spliff on the go. (or would that be ok? I don't know)

 

Were Spain doing something to legalise cannabis? But again, I'm not sure if freely and happily smoking pot in public is a thing there. 

 

I spent many years in the Caribbean, where (in Barbados anyway) cannabis was most definitely illegal and also almost compulsory! I think Canada and some US states have legalised it - but again, I'm not sure of the absolute definition/working of the law is.  

 

I'm not talking about medicinal prescriptions for weed, or indeed the benefits or otherwise of it - I'm just curious if any of our neighbours have decriminalised it to such an extent that you can sit on a park bench/wander down the street, drive a car, etc with a joint on the go. 

 

  

 

3 hours ago, peach0000 said:

To answer your questions, the Amsterdam one I'm pretty sure would be fine. You can certainly smoke in public. Spain they have private clubs that can sell and use it legally. You just pay for a membership (normally a token fee) and then you can sit in clubs and use it freely but not in public. The other European city where the use is as good as legal is Copenhagen. While technically illegal you can go to Christiania district and buy and smoke freely. The authorities just accept it to keep peace.

 

In terms of legalisation I can see the pros and cons. I tend to lean on the side of legalisation purely because it's so wide spread anyway and the police don't do anything that it might as well be taxed to give some financial support to services dealing with the effects of it. However I've also had friends who I've seen become dependent on the stuff to get through the day and quite frankly seen it have a very negative effect on their lives. 

 

I believe Luxembourg is in the process of legalising it right now.