Monsell1976 Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 2 hours ago, shen said: Some are really getting their knickers in a twist over our players. Is 'player power' new to some? Are they not allowed to be angry? Surely an apathetic squad would've been worse. Is anyone wanting senior players out at Barcelona and Real Madrid who hold even more player power? They can be angry, with themselves as well, they contributed to his dismissal, and if they don’t know why he was sacked, with the results and performances from the back end of the season, and this then they are in denial. But angry all they want, but go out and play to the best of their abilities, and earn the money they are paid, and not sulk on the pitch.
Wdywd Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 The biggest mistake the club made imo was giving out big contracts and extensions to so many players after the title win. Vardy, Mahrez, Schmeichel was obviously fine, but they just started handing out rewards to everyone and now we've got all these guys running the show. And for me giving Shakespeare the job didn't help that, just gave the cliques even more power. Now we've got players demanding answers from the owner ffs. I appreciate it was a difficult call because of what they achieved, but I don't think a team that wanted to continue to develop should have done that
norwichfox Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Just now, Wdywd said: The biggest mistake the club made imo was giving out big contracts and extensions to so many players after the title win. Vardy, Mahrez, Schmeichel was obviously fine, but they just started handing out rewards to everyone and now we've got all these guys running the show. And for me giving Shakespeare the job didn't help that, just gave the cliques even more power. Now we've got players demanding answers from the owner ffs. I appreciate it was a difficult call because of what they achieved, but I don't think a team that wanted to continue to develop should have done that They would have had no experience of anything that even came close, given the end result and if we had their extreme wealth at our finger tips most of us would foolishly have done something similar, it's difficult to single out just the "stars" in a team performance a full season long.
shen Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Just now, Monsell1976 said: They can be angry, with themselves as well, they contributed to his dismissal, and if they don’t know why he was sacked, with the results and performances from the back end of the season, and this then they are in denial. But angry all they want, but go out and play to the best of their abilities, and earn the money they are paid, and not sulk on the pitch. There's a case to be made that we're on -3 goal difference despite having played some of the toughest opponents this season already. We haven't yet lost to any of our direct competitors. When you're on the pitch, you have a different feeling from the games than when you're a spectator. Either way, we don't know what is being said behind the scenes. If the sacking goes against what the staff and players were told, then you'd rightly get a reaction.
norwichfox Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 1 minute ago, shen said: There's a case to be made that we're on -3 goal difference despite having played some of the toughest opponents this season already. We haven't yet lost to any of our direct competitors. When you're on the pitch, you have a different feeling from the games than when you're a spectator. Either way, we don't know what is being said behind the scenes. If the sacking goes against what the staff and players were told, then you'd rightly get a reaction. It wasn't an easy start. I don't think we can lay too much blame the fixture list after the first "easy" game we had last season with a newly promoted side - with no manager and 13 fit players....
Wdywd Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 6 minutes ago, norwichfox said: They would have had no experience of anything that even came close, given the end result and if we had their extreme wealth at our finger tips most of us would foolishly have done something similar, it's difficult to single out just the "stars" in a team performance a full season long. Yeah I agree with that, but these people are paid to make tough decisions and ultimately made the wrong ones I think.
lcfcsnow Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 As I mentioned in the manager credentials topic, we need someone strong enough to not be dictated by certain players now as it's looking more and more likely a group of them are running things here, would explain how no one else brought into the club can get in either.
norwichfox Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 We need Shakespeare to "spill the beans" but I expect he's been financially gagged.
Samilktray Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Kasper & Vardys names crop up quite a bit in these articles and conspiracies, don't they
Alf Bentley Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 10 hours ago, Tuna said: Leicester players 'cheesed off' by Craig Shakespeare's sacking demanded answers in a tense team meeting before training on Thursday. Could this thread be renamed as "The Tuna and Cheese Melt Thread"?
Monsell1976 Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 16 minutes ago, shen said: There's a case to be made that we're on -3 goal difference despite having played some of the toughest opponents this season already. We haven't yet lost to any of our direct competitors. When you're on the pitch, you have a different feeling from the games than when you're a spectator. Either way, we don't know what is being said behind the scenes. If the sacking goes against what the staff and players were told, then you'd rightly get a reaction. If everybody was honest, since the back end of the season, results and performances have shown his inexperience. For me the owners have looked over the half a season he’s been in charge, and realised it was a mistake to give someone the job, who has never managed at any level, let alone the premier league. The performances the players have been putting in, wether that was loss of form, being told to play a certain way, whatever, they are very concerning. I totally back the owners, it was the right time, as performances were getting worse, and we had very little organisation out there, very limited defend, and hoof it to vardy, and when that didn’t work, we didn’t have a clue. For me there can be no complaints anywhere, about his dismissal
Foxxed Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Newcastle a few seasons ago were ****ed by their players having too much of a say in the decisions of the club. I hope the same doesn't happen it.
nettle Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 I'm cheesed off with the players crap performances which has been going on for ages now.
Vestan Pance Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 51 minutes ago, Wdywd said: The biggest mistake the club made imo was giving out big contracts and extensions to so many players after the title win. Vardy, Mahrez, Schmeichel was obviously fine, but they just started handing out rewards to everyone and now we've got all these guys running the show. And for me giving Shakespeare the job didn't help that, just gave the cliques even more power. Now we've got players demanding answers from the owner ffs. I appreciate it was a difficult call because of what they achieved, but I don't think a team that wanted to continue to develop should have done that Totally agree. The Ulloa situation was the first sign, Ranieri made a stand but the club eventually caved in. I honestly wonder if the title win has made some of these players completely lose their grip on reality?
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 35 minutes ago, norwichfox said: We need Shakespeare to "spill the beans" but I expect he's been financially gagged. Pearson is/ was for 10 years
An Away Move Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Whatever happened to what stays in the dressing room, or in this case the training ground, stays on the training ground? Appleton had no need to tell a bunch of journalists that the players are pissed off. What can that do other than set up a narrative of rift? I bet the the owners are delighted with that piece of unnecessary sh*t raking.
fuchsntf Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 1 hour ago, Samilktray said: erKasper & Vardys names crop up quite a bit in these articles and conspiracies, don't they Yes..by posters on this forum, then journalist will piCk up on it. Kasper and Vardy are the Most interviewed. So lets have conspiracy theories. Management will speak to players, like they do the workers at any Company . Of course the players were "taken back" angry even but take it into perspective. Players will have opinions and thoughts, far away from c whst the terraces/Forums might Offer. Player conspiracy, social media, Media Food....once mentioned will snowball, because someone has an ax to grind over nothing... It might now and then raise its head over the pulpit, but like all of us, who dare to have opinions, Doesnt mean it equates to player power as some will have it portrayed. Isnt the transfer business i t self, part of some sort of player power....??? We dont want robots now do we . Plus X a player wont threaten his career, by being a fly in the ointment...Perspective, angles , misquotes, out of context...Creates great ammo for forums, and media to feed off
ARTY_FOX Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Who are these senior players that think it's fine margins? That's absolute bollocks. If they can't look at how we've set up this season and have serious concerns about it then they really need to watch some of these games back. We've been nothing short of embarrassing.
foxinsocks Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 7 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: Who are these senior players that think it's fine margins? That's absolute bollocks. If they can't look at how we've set up this season and have serious concerns about it then they really need to watch some of these games back. We've been nothing short of embarrassing. Yes... i like appleton.... but why does he say there's not much wrong? Who is content with the progress this season?
ARTY_FOX Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 1 minute ago, foxinsocks said: Yes... i like appleton.... but why does he say there's not much wrong? Who is content with the progress this season? That's what I'd like to know! I'm not hopefully there'll be many sort of change what so ever against the swans now.
Foxxed Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 No manager is going to want to manage a club whose players want the old manager back. No manager is going to want to manage a club whose players are more political than pliant. We'll probably need to sell the most vocal and get in a excellent scouting team to replace them. Or find a manager who's a match for the most vocal.
David Hankey Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Not doubt some players are "cheesed off". And no doubt they are the same players who colluded with Sharkspeare to get Ranieri ousted. What goes around comes around!!
Daggers Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Obviously, we need to be moving forward from this very Caerphilly. It's Emmental situation but I'm certain the club can find a whey to act in a positive fashion.
Matt Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 4 hours ago, Stevosevic said: If they wanted Shakespeare that much they should have performed better. Huddersfield, Bournemouth and WBA performances were abysmal. Can’t fault that. However I’m glad even the players are now questioning Rudkin. I’m hoping this is done properly, 1 or 2 players representing the squad, Rudkin, The owners and a witness in a meeting, I can’t see what leg Rudkin has to stand on with his constant failing. I can’t believe such successful businessmen are still employing Rudkin.
Sionnach gorm Posted 20 October 2017 Posted 20 October 2017 Gary Lineker ✔@GaryLineker Was always a miracle, but it’s even more remarkable really that Leicester won the league given the ineptitude of those that run the club. 10:43 - 17 Oct 2017 I think even Lineker gets that there is something wrong here and it may not be just the manager.
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