Dogs

[Unabomber]

7 minutes ago, Umbungo78 said:

Anyone got an XL bully "type" dog? I've got a boxer X mastiff who's the softest daftest dog you can meet. Always have him off lead and he's really friendly. But he's a big unit, he looks intimidating and the word type is making me worried he'll get caught up in all this. I really don't want to muzzle him or never let him off his lead. Just a bit concerned by how vague the ban on XL bullies is 

You should definitely have him on the lead unless in an empty field. 

[westernpark]

1 hour ago, Umbungo78 said:

Anyone got an XL bully "type" dog? I've got a boxer X mastiff who's the softest daftest dog you can meet. Always have him off lead and he's really friendly. But he's a big unit, he looks intimidating and the word type is making me worried he'll get caught up in all this. I really don't want to muzzle him or never let him off his lead. Just a bit concerned by how vague the ban on XL bullies is 

Unfortunately you’ve chosen to have a dog with mastiff in it, I wouldn’t want it coming up to my dog without a muzzle or being on the lead. 

[Foxdiamond]

1 hour ago, Umbungo78 said:

Anyone got an XL bully "type" dog? I've got a boxer X mastiff who's the softest daftest dog you can meet. Always have him off lead and he's really friendly. But he's a big unit, he looks intimidating and the word type is making me worried he'll get caught up in all this. I really don't want to muzzle him or never let him off his lead. Just a bit concerned by how vague the ban on XL bullies is 

You say he is a big unit and looks intimidating. Look at it from the point of view of other people or dogs you come across. I would suggest this is enough to confirm he should be on a lead and possibly with a muzzle.

[Daggers]

15 hours ago, Umbungo78 said:

Anyone got an XL bully "type" dog? I've got a boxer X mastiff who's the softest daftest dog you can meet. Always have him off lead and he's really friendly. But he's a big unit, he looks intimidating and the word type is making me worried he'll get caught up in all this. I really don't want to muzzle him or never let him off his lead. Just a bit concerned by how vague the ban on XL bullies is 

You want to own an intimidating dog, put it on a lead and in a muzzle. Not doing so makes you a bit of a cock. 

[ozleicester]

45 minutes ago, Daggers said:

You want to own an intimidating dog, put it on a lead and in a muzzle. Not doing so makes you a bit of a cock. 

 

[Umbungo78]

1 hour ago, ozleicester said:

 

I rescued a dog others might see as intimidating. In actuality he's the softest dog you'll meet. And when he's off lead he's never out of control. But if it triggers you so much then I'll let him off all the more. Asked a serious question and get a response from someone who identifies as the tip of a penis 👍

[Daggers]

Well, that was another easy block.

[Guest Mee-9]

We all know the type of people who own these dangerous sort of dogs. 

 

Can't work out what possesses people to buy staffys, XL Bullys etc. They're ugly as ****, look gormless.  

[Will1981]

1 hour ago, Mee-9 said:

We all know the type of people who own these dangerous sort of dogs. 

 

Can't work out what possesses people to buy staffys, XL Bullys etc. They're ugly as ****, look gormless.  

My 82 year old Grandma's last dog was a staffy and was the friendliest well trained dog she has had, I don't believe there is such a thing as a bad dog only bad owners. As long as the dog is well trained and healthy I have no issue with any breeds or cross breeds, I have a much bigger issue with people who have Pugs or French bull terriers who can not breathe properly and have a very poor quality of life.

[FoxesDeb]

1 hour ago, Mee-9 said:

We all know the type of people who own these dangerous sort of dogs. 

 

Can't work out what possesses people to buy staffys, XL Bullys etc. They're ugly as ****, look gormless.  

There is a world of difference between Staffies and XL Bullys, the 2 breeds are not comparable. 

 

Staffies are one of the best choices for a family pet

 

https://www.bluecross.org.uk/story/do-staffordshire-bull-terriers-make-good-family-pets

[westernpark]

Staffordshire bull terriers are normally great with people but bad with other dogs. I can’t agree they make good family dogs as they can cause conflict With other dogs. I believe the majority of dogs with the same jaw type as a Staffordshire bull terrier to XL bully should be at the minimum leashed in public. Yes labradors  can bite, as all dogs bite but the potential damage that these lock jaw dogs can do is not worth the risk in public. 

[FoxesDeb]

7 minutes ago, westernpark said:

Staffordshire bull terriers are normally great with people but bad with other dogs. I can’t agree they make good family dogs as they can cause conflict With other dogs. I believe the majority of dogs with the same jaw type as a Staffordshire bull terrier to XL bully should be at the minimum leashed in public. Yes labradors  can bite, as all dogs bite but the potential damage that these lock jaw dogs can do is not worth the risk in public. 

Staffies having 'lock jaw' is a myth

[westernpark]

2 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Staffies having 'lock jaw' is a myth

It doesn’t actually mean a lock jaw but it’s a well used term to describe these animals, I used it because it was easier to type than Brachycephalic(covers most dogs with any bulldog in them, also Pugs too).

[Unabomber]

Most of the staffies I have met have been relatively sound. 

[FoxesDeb]

7 minutes ago, westernpark said:

It doesn’t actually mean a lock jaw but it’s a well used term to describe these animals, I used it because it was easier to type than Brachycephalic(covers most dogs with any bulldog in them, also Pugs too).

I thought that was to do with the way they breathe, not the misconception around the so called lock jaw, are they the same thing then?

[Unabomber]

My dog is very small and looks harmless but can really kick off especially if you are a squirrel. 

[jgtuk]

8 minutes ago, westernpark said:

It doesn’t actually mean a lock jaw but it’s a well used term to describe these animals, I used it because it was easier to type than Brachycephalic(covers most dogs with any bulldog in them, also Pugs too).

That term (Brachycephalic) has nothing to do with lock jaws, or dangerous dogs. Staffies are amazing dogs and make brilliant family pets and most get on well with other dogs or cats. Those that don’t haven’t been socialised properly. I’ve owned Bull Mastiffs and staffies and they all lived together, with cats, chickens and my children and grandchildren. 
 

[MPH]

I have a golden retriever and can say I think they are the perfect breed for being a family pet.

[westernpark]

6 minutes ago, jgtuk said:

That term (Brachycephalic) has nothing to do with lock jaws, or dangerous dogs. Staffies are amazing dogs and make brilliant family pets and most get on well with other dogs or cats. Those that don’t haven’t been socialised properly. I’ve owned Bull Mastiffs and staffies and they all lived together, with cats, chickens and my children and grandchildren. 
 

 

12 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

I thought that was to do with the way they breathe, not the misconception around the so called lock jaw, are they the same thing then?

No but it is those type of dogs, Brachycephalic, that can cause serious damage. So we may say correlation rather than causation through that type of head(Brachycephalic) but that umbrella term considers most dogs that have a more dangerous jaw type than your Labrador or collie. I believe in the interest of public safety that mastiff, bull-type breeds etc should always be restrained or more helpfully muzzled in public. Staffies are great with humans generally, but from my experience they have always caused conflict with other dogs and therefore are a danger to humans when attempting to separate them. 

[FoxesDeb]

19 minutes ago, westernpark said:

 

No but it is those type of dogs, Brachycephalic, that can cause serious damage. 

Do you have a source for this please?

[tom27111]

Would it not be beneficial to reintroduce the dog licence?

 

And also make some kind of mandatory assessment part of this?

 

As a dog owner and lover, it certainly wouldn't inconvenience me.

[jgtuk]

16 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Do you have a source for this please?

I doubt it because it’s not true. 
I’ve not come across a dangerous Pug 😂

[jgtuk]

1 minute ago, tom27111 said:

Would it not be beneficial to reintroduce the dog licence?

 

And also make some kind of mandatory assessment part of this?

 

As a dog owner and lover, it certainly wouldn't inconvenience me.

I think all dogs and cats should be spayed/neutered, licensed, tagged and insured. Owners should be fully responsible for their animals, it would probably help stop people breeding them in their kitchens and selling on facebook, reducing the need for rescue shelters and hopefully reduce overall numbers. 

[westernpark]

20 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Do you have a source for this please?

 

2 minutes ago, jgtuk said:

I doubt it because it’s not true. 
I’ve not come across a dangerous Pug 😂

Like I said it is largely these dogs, I referenced Pug in my first post, demonstrating that it’s not all these dogs, but largely them. If you look at the deaths caused by dogs in the UK, they are largely Brachycephalic dogs. Obviously there would be more nuance to such ruling but I don’t believe Mastiff and Bull types such be allowed out in public without regulations, we don’t have to argue over the semantics.

[tom27111]

8 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

Would it not be beneficial to reintroduce the dog licence?

 

And also make some kind of mandatory assessment part of this?

 

As a dog owner and lover, it certainly wouldn't inconvenience me.

 

I'll back this up a little bit.

 

One of my dogs was a dalmatian, he was incredible. 

 

When Disney released 101 and 102 Dalmatians, there was an obvious rise in demand for them.

 

People didn't think about it, there were dozens of them abandoned because the owners were lazy cvnts.

 

There was even an example where they were portrayed as bad dogs because one bit a child. 

 

They're an energetic dog that needs at least 3 hours exercise a day, otherwise they get bored and destructive. 

 

You want a dog, you apply to be allowed to keep one.

 

Why do you want it?

What do you know about the breed?

Why do you want the breed?

Have you kept dogs before? Did you grow up around them?

 

Yeah, people could get around it, you need to take a driving test and god knows a vast amount of people still don't know how to drive, but vetting potential dog owners protects the dog and the wider public.