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Andy King

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21 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

His agent engineered the interest from Arsenal, which lead to Leicester having to massively improve the contract he had.

 

It wasn’t loyalty, it was all about getting a much better contract for himself

You're fighting a losing battle here. You have your opinion and fair play but I don't agree. IMO Vardy wanted to stay here as he didn't think the Arsenal move would be good for him. Yes he probably engineered more money out of it with his improved contract but he deserved it. Leicester legend.

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1 hour ago, Rob1742 said:

His agent engineered the interest from Arsenal, which lead to Leicester having to massively improve the contract he had.

 

It wasn’t loyalty, it was all about getting a much better contract for himself

 

Oh I am not dumb enough to think the reason he turned down the transfer was purely out of love for Leicester city football club don’t worry.

 

however, it was more than interest there was on offer on the table and it was a better one then we offered him.

 

Plus you don’t really answer the question. Why didn’t he take Arsenal’s more lucrative offer, or if you prefer, why would a player only look to get interest from big clubs just to improve the contract they are on at their current club and have no intention of actually moving anywhere if what you say is true, sounds like he likes it here to me.

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13 hours ago, STUHILL said:

This just isn't true. Wenger wanted Vardy and they weren't far off from getting him, but Vardy decided to stay with us. 

I’ll go once more in more detail.

 

The agent makes a club aware that the player is willing to leave. In this case the agent contacted Arsenal contacts saying Vardy could be prizes away. This though was very doubtful as it was purely a tactic to get a new contract at Leicester. 

 

Wenger puts in a bid to Leicester and then Leicester have to offer him improved terms to make him stay. 

 

This is what happened in this case. The chances of Vardy going were remote and this was purely an exercise to get more money. It was very unlikely her would have gone. That is though unless Leicester wouldn’t have played ball and not looked after him.

 

Happens all the time to get the wages up, it’s just what agents do. Yes you could say you want improved terms to stay, but if another club is involved then the chances are you get a better offer as there is competition.

 

Its not all like this obviously. Maguire was a genuine bid that wasn’t instigated by an agent. But in some cases an agent will encourage clubs to come after their player to get their salary up where they are. And that is what happened in the Vardy case.  

 

 

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11 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Oh I am not dumb enough to think the reason he turned down the transfer was purely out of love for Leicester city football club don’t worry.

 

however, it was more than interest there was on offer on the table and it was a better one then we offered him.

 

Plus you don’t really answer the question. Why didn’t he take Arsenal’s more lucrative offer, or if you prefer, why would a player only look to get interest from big clubs just to improve the contract they are on at their current club and have no intention of actually moving anywhere if what you say is true, sounds like he likes it here to me.

I am not sure what the arsenal offer was, but once Leicester had put a huge offer on the table to him, the job the agent had done was virtually complete. Yes he then has a decision to make, Leicester or Arsenal, but what I am saying his intention was to get a better contract at Leicester and not move to Arsenal or anywhere.

 

You could say that is loyalty, or you could say that he isn’t that loyal if he engineers a huge contract with the club he is currently at. 

 

Its just business at the end of the day. 

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34 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

I’ll go once more in more detail.

 

The agent makes a club aware that the player is willing to leave. In this case the agent contacted Arsenal contacts saying Vardy could be prizes away. This though was very doubtful as it was purely a tactic to get a new contract at Leicester. 

 

Wenger puts in a bid to Leicester and then Leicester have to offer him improved terms to make him stay. 

 

This is what happened in this case. The chances of Vardy going were remote and this was purely an exercise to get more money. It was very unlikely her would have gone. That is though unless Leicester wouldn’t have played ball and not looked after him.

 

Happens all the time to get the wages up, it’s just what agents do. Yes you could say you want improved terms to stay, but if another club is involved then the chances are you get a better offer as there is competition.

 

Its not all like this obviously. Maguire was a genuine bid that wasn’t instigated by an agent. But in some cases an agent will encourage clubs to come after their player to get their salary up where they are. And that is what happened in the Vardy case.  

 

 

Jamie Vardy had a £20m buy out clause in his contract. Arsenal met that so were free to talk to Vardy about wages etc. Arsenal were only willing to offer him a 3 year deal (same pay per week as Leicester), Leicester were willing to give him a 4 year contract + our 'style of play' & champions league made him stay. Vardy could have left and the club couldn't have done anything about it (like Kante). 

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53 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

I am not sure what the arsenal offer was, but once Leicester had put a huge offer on the table to him, the job the agent had done was virtually complete. Yes he then has a decision to make, Leicester or Arsenal, but what I am saying his intention was to get a better contract at Leicester and not move to Arsenal or anywhere.

 

You could say that is loyalty, or you could say that he isn’t that loyal if he engineers a huge contract with the club he is currently at. 

 

Its just business at the end of the day. 

 

The Arsenal offer was about 15k a week more apparently. 

 

Relatively speaking in football terms it's a lot more loyalty than most exhibit . If we are talking what's morally correct we should of probably offered him a vastly improved contract when we won the league and he scored over 20  goals and he should not of had to wait for interest from outside. Like you say it is business

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A move to Swansea (new manager who seems to have a way of playing that would suit King) or even Cardiff (yes - favourites for relegation, but he'd be almost certain of quite regular first-team football in the PL) would be most beneficial for him imo.

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44 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

A move to Swansea (new manager who seems to have a way of playing that would suit King) or even Cardiff (yes - favourites for relegation, but he'd be almost certain of quite regular first-team football in the PL) would be most beneficial for him imo.

Too late for Cardiff

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On 17/08/2018 at 19:04, Wymeswold fox said:

A move to Swansea (new manager who seems to have a way of playing that would suit King) or even Cardiff (yes - favourites for relegation, but he'd be almost certain of quite regular first-team football in the PL) would be most beneficial for him imo.

Swansea had agreed an 8 million fee and to pay his 40k a week contract, however relegation meant they couldn't afford either. 

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On 17/08/2018 at 19:04, Wymeswold fox said:

A move to Swansea (new manager who seems to have a way of playing that would suit King) or even Cardiff (yes - favourites for relegation, but he'd be almost certain of quite regular first-team football in the PL) would be most beneficial for him imo.

 

Tbf, given he's actually from Maidenhead and about as Welsh as Large Al is Scottish, he'd probably be more at home going to Brentford or Fulham or something than Cardiff or Swansea lol

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King was great in League One and earlier on in his time in the Championship. He's done a job for us on a number of occasions since then, playing a part in promotion, the Great Escape, the title win.

 

He has an incredible role in our history because he was with us from the third tier to the most stunning title in recent footballing history. However, it's open for debate whether his involvement in the most significant part of that story - promotion, winning the league - was especially vital, or more coincidence.

 

There are people we couldn't have done without (Dyer, Vardy, Nugent, Wes, Kasper, Drinkwater, for instance, in 13/14) and people who we could have comfortably replaced. He was in and out of the side in 13/14, 14/15 and mostly a bench-warmer in 15/16. Our points-per-game record with King in the side in 15/16 would have seen us finish mid-table had he played every match. So the man has been fantastic for us, and I don't want to question his loyalty, but it's hard to see him as a central part of our key successes.

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