Would you trust him with your money?

[Lcfc_ben]

After seeing our home form slip to its worst in years, I’m unsure (if I was the owner) I’d trust Puel with a penny of my money in the summer.

 

Under his stewardship, I feel like we have lacked the ability to get stuck in and grind out a result rather than playing out from the back and working the ball into the box. It’s clear we don’t have the players to play in this way and we are losing games we should have won to finish 7th. 

 

So, would you invest or give Puel the vote of NO confidence?

Edited 8 April 2018 by Lcfc_ben

[Webbo]

We don't really know what he's like at buying players so I can't say. It's getting the best out of the players we've got that bothers me.

[RumbleFox]

5 minutes ago, Lcfc_ben said:

After seeing our home form slip to its worst in years, I’m unsure (if I was the owner) I’d trust Puel with a penny of my money in the summer.

 

Under his stewardship, I feel like we have lacked the ability to get stuck in and grid out a result rather than playing out from the back and working the ball into the box. It’s clear we don’t have the players to play in this way and we are losing games we should have won to finish 7th. 

 

So, would you invest or give Puel the vote of NO confidence?

He has bought one player, Diabate, for next to nothing who seems like he might be OK.  So, in short, to answer your question......We don't have enough evidence either way but it seems very weird to completely write him off based on the very small data set we have.  X

Edited 7 April 2018 by RumbleFox

[StanSP]

4 minutes ago, Lcfc_ben said:

After seeing our home form slip to its worst in years, I’m unsure (if I was the owner) I’d trust Puel with a penny of my money in the summer.

 

Under his stewardship, I feel like we have lacked the ability to get stuck in and grid out a result rather than playing out from the back and working the ball into the box. It’s clear we don’t have the players to play in this way and we are losing games we should have won to finish 7th. 

 

So, would you invest or give Puel the vote of NO confidence?

yeah, cos another thread is needed to decide whether we want Puel to stay or not .

 

Also, we have come back and 'ground out' a result against: 

 

Bournemouth after going a goal down

Stoke after going a goal down

 

Not to mention beating Brighton which was difficult and beating West Brom after going a goal down. 

 

Yes, it is clear we don't have the players but how can we hire a manager and then not give him time to work to his philosophy and make the necessary changes? How backwards and illogical is that?

[Heymister2015]

Think it’s hard to judge him with a squad full of limited footballers ie Simpson, king, albrighton etc. All honest players but very limited and not at the level we want to go. He’s only had one transfer window that isn’t really a window due to it being impossible to sign players in January. I think if a flying right back and Ben arfa arrived that would be a great start. I’m willing to give him a chance despite the poor home form, we’ve thrashed a few away. So it’s been a mixed bag

[Webbo]

7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

yeah, cos another thread is needed to decide whether we want Puel to stay or not .

 

Also, we have come back and 'ground out' a result against: 

 

Bournemouth after going a goal down

Stoke after going a goal down

 

Not to mention beating Brighton which was difficult and beating West Brom after going a goal down. 

 

Yes, it is clear we don't have the players but how can we hire a manager and then not give him time to work to his philosophy and make the necessary changes? How backwards and illogical is that?

Tbh grounding out results against Bournemouth and Stoke aren't achievements to be proud of in my opinion.

 

We have to ask ourselves, is he getting the best out of the players we have? Are his tactics working? How many games have we dominated? 

 

I'm not sure who he's going to buy who can implement his tactics better than the players we have now.

[surrifox]

Pretty sure the owners have no plans to defenestrate the manager and it's what they do and think that matters 

[Trav Le Bleu]

He's not got my money and he's unlikely ever to meet me, so silly question really.

[volpeazzurro]

Whoever you chose to give your money to probably wouldn't want to come here. Puel deserves a chance. We're 8th with a squad  largely made up of ill bought misfits that aren't capable of playing how Puel wants them to. He isn't exactly spoilt for choice with who to pick from consistently.

 

Marhez will go. Hopefully joined by Musa, Mendy, Benalouane, Ulloa. Huth and Morgan ageing may not be here.  Iheanacho yet to prove himself so still need a number 10. Only really one decent midfielder. Silva bar the last half hour today not great. Iborra despite his fanbase is cumbersome, unable to adapt,  consistency gives the ball away and at best a squad player.

Puel at least has had 6 months to evaluate,  another manager would need the same or we trust the summer buys to our director and team.

 

You can't play champagne and oysters football  with beer and chips players and we've bought a lot of the latter. Puel or even Guadiola could get some of these to shine in a fast competitive Premier league. 8th is about right or slightly above  where this group of players are worthy of imo. 

[AyewJoking]

Yes.

He is so stubborn he insists on a style we dont have the players for.

He must have 5/6 players in mind that can and will play his style.

[urban.spaceman]

He's not some Nigerian prince. He's a French manager with proven experience of improving the fortunes of every club he's been at when he's been given the chance.

 

Only buying Diabate in January was shrewd business IMO. It gave him more time to assess his squad to be able to make wholesale changes in the summer.

 

Calm your tits.

[Heymister2015]

I think Mendy will get a chance. Was his captain at nice and do we really know how good he is? And mentions of Ricardo Perreira from Porto who he had right back at nice. We are playing rubbish atm but do we have the squad to outclass teams below 7th. NO. If we were playing like this with a quality right back and more flare then I’d say get Puel out! 

[kingfox]

He'll buy some random French guys and turn us into a BTEC Newcastle.

[StanSP]

13 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Tbh grounding out results against Bournemouth and Stoke aren't achievements to be proud of in my opinion.

 

We have to ask ourselves, is he getting the best out of the players we have? Are his tactics working? How many games have we dominated? 

 

I'm not sure who he's going to buy who can implement his tactics better than the players we have now.

they're not, but it's what happened. 

 

whatever team it was, it was still a point that was gained as opposed another number being added to the losses column. 

 

Is he getting the best out of the players we have? probably not. (Are the players performing to the best of their abilities - it's not all on the manager). 

 

We haven't dominated many games, you're right. Is that the way Puel wants us to play? Probably not. It's what we're used to but it has to be understood that the way we used to play probably wasn't going to work now anyway as the game has moved on in such a quick time.

 

I'm not sure either but he strikes me as someone who can be shrewd and probably does have some players in mind (as will our scouting team who would have been instructed as to what kind of players Puel wants). 

[lgfualol]

As long as we dont **** about actually signing the players, yes why not. He should get a Summer to ship out the shit and get in some footballers thay arent one dimensional.

[Tuna]

I don't get this "he needs his own players" or the players are "not suited to the style of play" argument.

The players we have here have been expensively assembled and are more than good enough, it's up to Puel to work with what he has and get the best out of them and he isn't doing that at the moment, we are going backwards the longer he has been here.

 

 

 

 

[StanSP]

11 minutes ago, Tuna said:

I don't get this "he needs his own players" or the players are "not suited to the style of play" argument.

The players we have here have been expensively assembled and are more than good enough, it's up to Puel to work with what he has and get the best out of them and he isn't doing that at the moment, we are going backwards the longer he has been here.

 

 

 

 

we were literally in the relegation zone when he took over and he's taken us to 8th so far.

 

How is that backwards? He's taken us up to being on the verge of contending for Europe within 6 months whilst not even 'getting the best' out of the players at his disposal.

 

If that's how it's gonna be, I can't wait til he does get the best out of whatever players he has. 

[volpeazzurro]

16 minutes ago, Tuna said:

I don't get this "he needs his own players" or the players are "not suited to the style of play" argument.

The players we have here have been expensively assembled and are more than good enough, it's up to Puel to work with what he has and get the best out of them and he isn't doing that at the moment, we are going backwards the longer he has been here.

 

 

 

 

Only part right Imo. Yes, they have been expensively assembled but ...  the reality is that many are nowhere near good enough to maintain 8th let alone have European ambitions.

 

Different budget of course but even Guadiola had a season to evaluate what he had, then got rid of a load and bought in a load. Even he, with all he had previously achieved had his doubters. How many on here wrote Ranieri off before he even managed a game. All very easy from an armchair. Who knows what problems with the players, their abilities, attitudes and ego's he's inherited? For me there needs to be a huge clear out. 

 

[Guest Sharpe's Fox]

Based on Diabete, who was the worst player on the pitch yesterday by far imo, absolutely not.

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

9 hours ago, Tuna said:

I don't get this "he needs his own players" or the players are "not suited to the style of play" argument.

The players we have here have been expensively assembled and are more than good enough, it's up to Puel to work with what he has and get the best out of them and he isn't doing that at the moment, we are going backwards the longer he has been here.

 

 

 

 

So you're saying we should be in a European place with players like king James musa slimani? **** me even pep couldn't get that out of those players. Puel wants to play possession football. All of the players we have were signed by mainly counter attacking or kick and rush managers 

Unless you think we can bring ulloa back to play nice tippytappy football

[Soar Fox]

Owners are really unhappy him and there was talk of getting rid of him once the season is done.

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

Just now, Steve_Walsh5 said:

Owners are really unhappy him and there was talk of getting rid of him once the season is done.

Based on? 

[Matt]

No.

 

For several reasons, some I can point the finger at him for, other reasons are beyond his control - which is another discussion - other personnel and then I have to question how much of say he (Or any manager who comes in for that matter) has on transfers and recruitment.

 

The club need's an overhaul from players to management to recruitment.

 

The main reasons against him are I worry about who he'll bring in, this boring, ineffective football could be blamed on what he currently has to work with but shouldn't he be working with what he's got and using it to it's potential. Southampton weren't happy with the style he played, boring, lack of goals, he had an arguement there though - He didn't have much of an attacking threat, same here - except he doesn't have that arguement so in 2 jobs he's failed to get the best out of what he's got.

 

So, bringing players in, does it fill me with confidence, does it get me exciting from what I can expect from him? Not at all, i'm dreading it, it actually scares me and I can't look forward to next season, I'm calling it now, if he's still with us in the summer, brings 'his' players in, we're gonna be lumbered with expensive players that don't fit us and won't play, he'll get sacked and the next manager will come in and have to deal with them.

 

That's not to mention out poor recruitment team - Who i've placed full blame with the 2(+ maybe) seasons so i'm not gonna change now and use it as a stick to throw at Puel.

 

I said when Shakespeare got sacked and Puel came in, whilst Rudkin and his team are still in place sacking managers is pointless because the managers are being failed by Rudkin and his team.

 

We're treading water in many aspects.

 

9 hours ago, StanSP said:

we were literally in the relegation zone when he took over and he's taken us to 8th so far.

 

How is that backwards? He's taken us up to being on the verge of contending for Europe within 6 months whilst not even 'getting the best' out of the players at his disposal.

 

If that's how it's gonna be, I can't wait til he does get the best out of whatever players he has. 

 

No, no we weren't (Unless i'm looking at dodgy stats), we were in the relegation zone when Shakespeare got sacked, Appleton took over for the Swansea game which we won which lifted us to 14th, then Puel took over, won 1 game, took us to 11th, it then took 7 weeks to get us 8th, we've pretty much stayed there ever since - Our rise/plateau for me is due to a bang average league - Likewise Burnley went nearly 2 months without winning and stayed 7th.

 

http://www.footipedia.com/Leicester-City/2017-2018-season-stats/league-table-position-graph#.WsnXQ38t200

 

I'm sorry FWIW I like think you're a good poster Stan but i've seen a few people claim that and i've not bit until now, unfortunately it's you i've quoted!

Edited 8 April 2018 by Matt

[Soar Fox]

4 minutes ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

Based on? 

Performances and players unhappy with him. It’s not even the old guard that have vented their frustration apparently Iborra, Silva & Dragovic all unhappy.

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

Just now, Steve_Walsh5 said:

Performances and players unhappy with him. It’s not even the old guard that have vented their frustration apparently Iborra, Silva & Dragovic all unhappy.

So no source then. Last this we need is people making up rumours that will end up on shit sites like 100%lcfc getting all the Muppets behind them