goose2010 Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, 4everfox said: Because I want the club to be European contenders, and you don't achieve that by selling your best players to divisional rivals for less than what they are worth. Big clubs don't really sell their best players, but when they do they almost always get well above what they are worth. I want Leicester to be like that. I get that of course but what would you do if you had Mahrez kicking off at every transfer window and handing in transfer requests? Surely this is the best move for the club?
katieakita Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 3 minutes ago, goose2010 said: who are people so hung up on the price? No one actually knows what it is and not sure why its so important to anyone? its not like they are saying if its £80mill all fans will get a cut of the money is it?! If the business people at the club feels it a deal the club are happy with then so be it. Its real life not football manager. Some on here think Football Manager is real life and winning the Champions League with Swindon makes them football experts. Looks like he is going so cheerio and thanks for the memories. As for the undisclosed fee the fact that our owners are self made billionaires suggests they are not that bad with deals
Finnegan Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 2 minutes ago, AKCJ said: I have a ridiculous valuation of Mahrez's capability. He's a 90m player in my eyes. Just saying that Coutinho is a level above. Coutinho is Iniesta's heir for me. That's how highly I rate him. I can't agree that Mahrez is better than Sane. However I agree he's better than Sterling and probably on a par with Bernardo Silva. They are all kids though, Mahrez is 27 now and in what you'd consider to be his prime. 60m and we're been shafted by both clubs. He's going to go to the next level under Pep though. This time next year he'll be twice the player he currently is. Sane is enormously overhyped tbh. He had a purple patch where he was utterly unplayable but he's ultimately just a very fast kid with some skills. He doesn't have vision or technical ability anywhere on Riyad's level and given Guardiola's preference for more patient attacking build up, I can see why he wants Riyad. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see him play Riyad over Sane.
murphy Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, AKCJ said: What repeated poor behaviour? He wanted a move and it a move looked very certain on deadline day. He was obviously going to be upset (Man City were favourites for the quadruple at that point) and was given a few days off by the club to get over ti. He came back and was our best player for a good month and a half. You can't be serious? No, he's the model professional with his strikes and airport lounge camping, the loyalty bonus shithousery, turning it on and of when he can be bothered.... He can fvck the fvck off with the horse he rode in on. 1
goose2010 Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, katieakita said: Some on here think Football Manager is real life and winning the Champions League with Swindon makes them football experts. Looks like he is going so cheerio and thanks for the memories. As for the undisclosed fee the fact that our owners are self made billionaires suggests they are not that bad with deals exactly this! The club like all clubs are businesses they are ran like a business they aren't going to let one of their prize assets go without getting a deal they are happy with.
Beechey Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, Finnegan said: Sane is enormously overhyped tbh. He had a purple patch where he was utterly unplayable but he's ultimately just a very fast kid with some skills. He doesn't have vision or technical ability anywhere on Riyad's level and given Guardiola's preference for more patient attacking build up, I can see why he wants Riyad. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see him play Riyad over Sane. Certainly would be interesting to see Riyad play on the left in a role where defending isn't the joint-main priority.
4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, goose2010 said: I get that of course but what would you do if you had Mahrez kicking off at every transfer window and handing in transfer requests? Surely this is the best move for the club? I would make an example of him by refusing to sell and publicly revealing why we aren't selling. How not to get your big move.
AKCJ Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 2 minutes ago, murphy said: You can't be serious? No, he's the model professional with his strikes and airport lounge camping, the loyalty bonus shithousery, turning it on and of when he can be bothered.... He can fvck the fvck off with the horse he rode in on. Football isn't like it was 30 years ago. Every club that isn't in the Champions League is a stepping stone. I'm sorry that you feel that way about a man who was a massive part of the best year of your Leicester City supporting life but ah well, guess you can't please everyone.
ian_marshall Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Any of our ITKs or journo's able to confirm this? At the moment only JP has mentioned the deal but then that is countered by the fact that Sky are reporting it who aren't usually that reliable these days.
norwichfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Worth taking a lower hit on the fee just to get rid of the fcuking fanboy aspect.... 1 1
goose2010 Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, 4everfox said: I would make an example of him by refusing to sell and publicly revealing why we aren't selling. How not to get your big move. and what message does that sent out to players that we already have and players that we might want to sign? Football doesn't work like that no one is bigger than the club. As soon as a player wants out you do the best deal you can for the club and the individual think Man Utd really wanted to sell Ronaldo? You think Liverpool really wanted to sell Coutinho? Southampton selling VVD? Why would you want to hold a player against their will? Why would you want to set that example? Mahrez lets be honest owes us nothing.
4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 4 minutes ago, turtmcfly said: More or less embarrassing than confidently predicting he stays unless a bid of at least 85 million is made? Yeah that's not really a reason to be personally embarrassed I'm afraid. Id be embarrassed if I was stewing over something for weeks just for the sake of telling someone 'I told you so' though.
AKCJ Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 3 minutes ago, Beechey said: Certainly would be interesting to see Riyad play on the left in a role where defending isn't the joint-main priority. Sane plays on the left for Man City.
mozartfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said: £60m FFS. If it is 60M plus add-ons and no fvcking Loyalty Bonus for him and his Leach, then FGS get it done so we can move on and concentrate shifting out the rotten Timber and bringing in another nailed- on starter of quality. Really sick of Mahrez now. Edited 3 July 2018 by mozartfox why not 1
Beechey Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: Sane plays on the left for Man City. That's the point of the post I responded to, Mahrez playing in Sane's position.
FoxyPalace.com Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Ziyech incoming I hope! I am not ITK its just what I hope may happen.
That_Dude Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 8 minutes ago, 4everfox said: I would make an example of him by refusing to sell and publicly revealing why we aren't selling. How not to get your big move. Sorry but that's exactly why you're posting here and not owning a football club.
4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, goose2010 said: and what message does that sent out to players that we already have and players that we might want to sign? Football doesn't work like that no one is bigger than the club. As soon as a player wants out you do the best deal you can for the club and the individual think Man Utd really wanted to sell Ronaldo? You think Liverpool really wanted to sell Coutinho? Southampton selling VVD? Why would you want to hold a player against their will? Why would you want to set that example? Mahrez lets be honest owes us nothing. Thinking positively, I'd guess that the players will think kicking off and handing in transfer requests left, right and centre will get you no where but the youth team. Looking in from the outside it makes the club look a little bigger so would probably have a positive effect on future signings. No player signs for a club thinking about how they are going to leave, they just don't. Edit: And look what those clubs sold those players for. That is what my argument is based on! Edited 3 July 2018 by 4everfox
sphericalfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 It's in our interest for the fee to be perceived as lower. Any replacement will be overpriced as it is, if the actual additional add-ons or clauses are say another 10/15m in total then we'll be rinsed for exactly that amount over and above who who aim for.
AKCJ Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 1 minute ago, Beechey said: That's the point of the post I responded to, Mahrez playing in Sane's position. I'd imagine Mahrez will play on the right/centre. They play a 4-1-4-1. Aguero/Jesus up front. Sane on the left. De Bruyne in the middle. Then two of David Silva/Bernardo Silva/Mahrez/Sterling playing central/on the right.
lcfc sheff Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 27 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Nothing to do with the fact that Mahrez has been nothing short of an absolute legend for this club and deserves the utmost respect from every single person claiming to be a Leicester fan. That's more to do with our club/Rudkin/Owners holding on to him for dear life before accepting a preiously rejected offer. I agree, I’m just saying people react badly in the heat of the moment
4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, That_Dude said: Sorry but that's exactly why you're posting here and not owning a football club. Nothing to do with the fact that I'm not a multi millionaire then no?
Fox 4 Life Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 1 minute ago, sphericalfox said: It's in our interest for the fee to be perceived as lower. Any replacement will be overpriced as it is, if the actual additional add-ons or clauses are say another 10/15m in total then we'll be rinsed for exactly that amount over and above who who aim for. Poor Leicester, they only have £60m to spend on our player, let's give him them for £30m.... said no team ever
murphy Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 4 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Football isn't like it was 30 years ago. Every club that isn't in the Champions League is a stepping stone. I'm sorry that you feel that way about a man who was a massive part of the best year of your Leicester City supporting life but ah well, guess you can't please everyone. But there are ways of doing things. Mahrez has burnt his bridges with a lot of fans with his behaviour it would seem and I agree, it is a shame that it has come to that. At the start of the summer I would have wished him well but now I just want him gone. I would also say this, how do you think he would take it if the club dug it's heels in and said to Man City, 'no, you can't have a £100m player for 60? ' He would be 11/10 on the tantrum-o-meter. We have to sell him, a contracted player, because he wouldn't play for us again.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 30 minutes ago, 4everfox said: That's half of what Coutinho went for. Is he twice as good as Mahrez? Not a chance. Terrible business by the club. That's not how it works though.
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