AKCJ Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 8 minutes ago, FIF said: What I love most is the way some people justify Mahrez with his assists and point out that over the last 3 years blah blah blah. They never compare the last 5 years or maybe better still the last 2 years. Would I be correct in saying that Mahrez has the same number of assists in the last 2 years as Albrighton? and around a third as many as DeBruyne? Too many forget how he went completely missing in 2016/2017 - he had less assists and less goals than Islam Slimani ! We need to realise what Mahrez is for us now and not what he was for us in 2015. 60M+ is a great price and would mean we can get players who are good players now - like Ziyech for example. So please when people argue about his stats rather than his game at least limit yourself to comparisons over the last 24 months with other people and then I an take you more seriously. I honestly don't understand you.
AKCJ Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 43 minutes ago, Markyblue said: Mahrez might be a great player but club legend give it a rest. Everyone involved in that season is a club legend. He was part of the holy trinity that made it all happen. 2
OhYesNdidi Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 9 minutes ago, FIF said: What I love most is the way some people justify Mahrez with his assists and point out that over the last 3 years blah blah blah. They never compare the last 5 years or maybe better still the last 2 years. Would I be correct in saying that Mahrez has the same number of assists in the last 2 years as Albrighton? and around a third as many as DeBruyne? Too many forget how he went completely missing in 2016/2017 - he had less assists and less goals than Islam Slimani ! We need to realise what Mahrez is for us now and not what he was for us in 2015. 60M+ is a great price and would mean we can get players who are good players now - like Ziyech for example. So please when people argue about his stats rather than his game at least limit yourself to comparisons over the last 24 months with other people and then I an take you more seriously. Assists Albrighton - 13 Mahrez - 13 Goals Albrighton - 4 mahrez - 18 - Both play the same position - Albrighton has Fuchs to help him out in attack - Albrighton isn't marked by 2 players every game. 3
matty98 Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 12 minutes ago, FIF said: What I love most is the way some people justify Mahrez with his assists and point out that over the last 3 years blah blah blah. They never compare the last 5 years or maybe better still the last 2 years. Would I be correct in saying that Mahrez has the same number of assists in the last 2 years as Albrighton? and around a third as many as DeBruyne? Too many forget how he went completely missing in 2016/2017 - he had less assists and less goals than Islam Slimani ! We need to realise what Mahrez is for us now and not what he was for us in 2015. 60M+ is a great price and would mean we can get players who are good players now - like Ziyech for example. So please when people argue about his stats rather than his game at least limit yourself to comparisons over the last 24 months with other people and then I an take you more seriously. Even in that season he managed 10 goals and 7 assists in all competitions, hardly a horrific return.
Babylon Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 23 minutes ago, FIF said: What I love most is the way some people justify Mahrez with his assists and point out that over the last 3 years blah blah blah. They never compare the last 5 years or maybe better still the last 2 years. Would I be correct in saying that Mahrez has the same number of assists in the last 2 years as Albrighton? and around a third as many as DeBruyne? Too many forget how he went completely missing in 2016/2017 - he had less assists and less goals than Islam Slimani ! We need to realise what Mahrez is for us now and not what he was for us in 2015. 60M+ is a great price and would mean we can get players who are good players now - like Ziyech for example. So please when people argue about his stats rather than his game at least limit yourself to comparisons over the last 24 months with other people and then I an take you more seriously. Yes limit yourselves to the time frame that suits FIF people.
That_Dude Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 37 minutes ago, FIF said: What I love most is the way some people justify Mahrez with his assists and point out that over the last 3 years blah blah blah. They never compare the last 5 years or maybe better still the last 2 years. Would I be correct in saying that Mahrez has the same number of assists in the last 2 years as Albrighton? and around a third as many as DeBruyne? Too many forget how he went completely missing in 2016/2017 - he had less assists and less goals than Islam Slimani ! We need to realise what Mahrez is for us now and not what he was for us in 2015. 60M+ is a great price and would mean we can get players who are good players now - like Ziyech for example. So please when people argue about his stats rather than his game at least limit yourself to comparisons over the last 24 months with other people and then I an take you more seriously. So the other poster was right, it really seems that you're on a crusade. Against windmills, mind you. I read some of your posts and your bias against him is astonishing. Like you and many others I want him gone as he would sour the dressing room, but your relentlessness in trying to belittle him or what he's achieved here is actually sad to read. That's a pretty amusing irony. 1
shen Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 46 minutes ago, FIF said: 60M+ is a great price and would mean we can get players who are good players now - like Ziyech for example. It's quite funny how you suggest a talented player known for throwing a strop and inconsistency as a replacement for Mahrez The irony is lost on you. 1
Ric Flair Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 45 minutes ago, FIF said: What I love most is the way some people justify Mahrez with his assists and point out that over the last 3 years blah blah blah. They never compare the last 5 years or maybe better still the last 2 years. Would I be correct in saying that Mahrez has the same number of assists in the last 2 years as Albrighton? and around a third as many as DeBruyne? Too many forget how he went completely missing in 2016/2017 - he had less assists and less goals than Islam Slimani ! We need to realise what Mahrez is for us now and not what he was for us in 2015. 60M+ is a great price and would mean we can get players who are good players now - like Ziyech for example. So please when people argue about his stats rather than his game at least limit yourself to comparisons over the last 24 months with other people and then I an take you more seriously. You seem obsessed with his poor season in 2016/17 to the point that you dismiss last season where he was back to his best. His stats were probably on a par with the title winning season given we were a less effective team last season, he no longer takes penalties for us and he wanted out during January. His poor season after we won the league should not be ignored but the fact that he bounced back last season is important in proving he's a class player. Hazard had a shocking season in 15/26 and then a great season in 16/17. Do you disregard his talents based on the same principles? I can't work out if you're on the wind up but you've done it for so long now it would take some discipline to carry it on for that long. If you're serious then I'm disturbed but that's what makes football as special as it is, opinions are diverse. You're in the minority on this one though so go and play up your own end.
Dr The Singh Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 2 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: He has not excited (sic) yet... Well im exited! 1
Chrysalis Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 We wont manage, at least not with a single player. simple but honest answer.
Ian Nacho Posted 22 June 2018 Posted 22 June 2018 I think what we'll miss with Mahrez the most is when he drives with the ball and the quality he has to unlock a defence with one touch or one pass. It's simply irreplaceable. We can try and replicate some aspects of Mahrez' game as from what I've seen Maddison does like to drive at defences, however, like a Chinese knock-off, it may be good and do the job, but it's never as good as the real deal.
Ian Nacho Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 1 hour ago, Worthington said: Anyone else think that CP will ditch attacking wingers, and go with wing backs and a central attacking playmaker?? Signings so far suggest he might ! I have a sneaking suspicion we'll change shape/system entirely, maybe even accommodating 'two up top' ! Exactly what I think he'll do.
Guest Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 1 hour ago, Worthington said: Anyone else think that CP will ditch attacking wingers, and go with wing backs and a central attacking playmaker?? Signings so far suggest he might ! I have a sneaking suspicion we'll change shape/system entirely, maybe even accommodating 'two up top' ! I hope so. We've not been really good with our 2 wide and 2 in midfield since Kanté left, though we're certainly improving. Mahrez just wasn't capable of the defensive responsibility needed (nor was Gray). We'll be far more potent with 2 upfront and a strong midfield will help both the attack and the defence. New players, new formation, Europe here we come.
Beechey Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 1 hour ago, Worthington said: Anyone else think that CP will ditch attacking wingers, and go with wing backs and a central attacking playmaker?? Signings so far suggest he might ! I have a sneaking suspicion we'll change shape/system entirely, maybe even accommodating 'two up top' ! With our current players, I'd feel more comfortable with this than with Gray/Diabate on the wings instead of a midfielder and Iheanacho in there. 1
coolhandfox Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 (edited) I would love Lozano, but he could well be on he's way to a bigger club then us! 6 hours ago, Beechey said: With our current players, I'd feel more comfortable with this than with Gray/Diabate on the wings instead of a midfielder and Iheanacho in there. Put a lot of pressure on Maddison to be the creative spark, also relies very heavily on Chigwell snd Pereira to provide width whilst having to defend wide areas without the cover of a third centre back. Edited 23 June 2018 by coolhandfox 1
UPinCarolina Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 7 hours ago, FIF said: I hope so. We've not been really good with our 2 wide and 2 in midfield since Kanté left, though we're certainly improving. Mahrez just wasn't capable of the defensive responsibility needed (nor was Gray). We'll be far more potent with 2 upfront and a strong midfield will help both the attack and the defence. New players, new formation, Europe here we come. 3-4-1-2?
Beechey Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 51 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: I would love Lozano, but he could well be on he's way to a bigger club then us! Put a lot of pressure on Maddison to be the creative spark, also relies very heavily on Chigwell snd Pereira to provide width whilst having to defend wide areas without the cover of a third centre back. Certainly does put pressure on Maddison, but he's going to have that regardless. Thankfully for us, Iborra drops into the back line a lot to provide cover, and both Chilwell and Pereira are very quick with great stamina. Being attacked down the flanks is the weak point in a diamond 442 though.
dorsetboy Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 9 hours ago, Worthington said: Anyone else think that CP will ditch attacking wingers, and go with wing backs and a central attacking playmaker?? Signings so far suggest he might ! I have a sneaking suspicion we'll change shape/system entirely, maybe even accommodating 'two up top' ! I said this very thing 4 weeks ago I think we will go either 3-5-2 or 4-2-3-1 Gray and diabate will be bench warmers and we will bring in another cam and I think a quick left back with solid crossing
coolhandfox Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 2 minutes ago, Beechey said: Certainly does put pressure on Maddison, but he's going to have that regardless. Thankfully for us, Iborra drops into the back line a lot to provide cover, and both Chilwell and Pereira are very quick with great stamina. Being attacked down the flanks is the weak point in a diamond 442 though. I just don't think Chilwell is go enough play in that formation, maybe Pereira, I've not seen enough of him to know. Personal I think the diamond works if you have amazing fullbacks and and number 10.
Beechey Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: I just don't think Chilwell is go enough play in that formation, maybe Pereira, I've not seen enough of him to know. Personal I think the diamond works if you have amazing fullbacks and and number 10. The premise is exactly the same as a back 3 with attacking wing backs, except Iborra steps into the gap between defence and midfield rather than staying in line with the central defenders. Chilwell is perfectly capable of playing as a wing back with a back 3, and this formation doesn't really change anything in comparison to those situations for his role. Edited 23 June 2018 by Beechey
Lcfcbisto Posted 23 June 2018 Posted 23 June 2018 58 minutes ago, Beechey said: The premise is exactly the same as a back 3 with attacking wing backs, except Iborra steps into the gap between defence and midfield rather than staying in line with the central defenders. Chilwell is perfectly capable of playing as a wing back with a back 3, and this formation doesn't really change anything in comparison to those situations for his role. Can see Ndidi and Iborra sitting to deep, which can mean a big gap between defence and attack like we have seen a lot of in the past. Also if Chilwell is good enough to play in that way (not sure he is yet) what do we do after 60min when is knackered or when he’s injured.
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