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11 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

I think it's disturbing the number of people who are equivocal as to how they'd behave when faced with a non-threatening, albeit irritating, woman. Even coming out with the perennial excuses of the wife-beater - "she made him (me) do it", "she asked for it", "she shouldn't have provoked him (me)".

 

 

Yeah but you think everything is disturbing

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This Field hands on shoulder thumb round neck reverse Vulcan grip kinda is what it is... and that’s a poor decision by a prominent politician to get involved in an unskilled way.

 

The actual act is pretty meh. I used to have a nightclub and to be honest I’ve seen a lot worse but if you are going to stand up and be all protecting and heroic and you don’t know what you are doing then just block the direction of the person with your body arms outstretched and ask for some ‘help over here’ or take her right elbow with your left hand and calmly ask her to leave or return to her seat or whatever.

 

But be nice - for crying out loud had he never even watched Roadhouse?

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32 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

I think it's disturbing the number of people who are equivocal as to how they'd behave when faced with a non-threatening, albeit irritating, woman. Even coming out with the perennial excuses of the wife-beater - "she made him (me) do it", "she asked for it", "she shouldn't have provoked him (me)".

 

 

I agree. At least the Conservative Party have taken action. 

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Im surprised how many support Field’s behaviour tbh, i don’t believe for one second he was frightened, just angry. I’d have slapped him silly if I’d been present, absolutely unacceptable.

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57 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

 

Absolutely this. 

 

Also, the "fight or flight" argument to justify that behaviour? Don't embarrass yourselves. Look at all the other men in the room. Do they react in the same manner as Field? Of course not, because they weren't incensed to the point at which they totally and utterly lost their temper. There's nothing else to it. The bloke's watched as she approaches and acted of pure uncontrolled aggression. He's lost it.


Whether you agree with how he with a perceived "threat" is a different argument, and it usually comes down to whether or not you think he's an odious f**king gammon who at a base level clearly believes that behaving in that way towards other human beings is acceptable.

 

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1 hour ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

So if thy wanted a fuss and expected to be removed, everybody got what they wanted? Nobody has cause for complaint

 

Im sure that woman's neck will be fine. She'll probably rub one out later thinking about it 

 

On a serious note, i think its nitpicking a bit. As Izzy said, the guy isnt trained in that sort of thing and there is no way to do such a thing nicely. Instincts kick i  and aggression is a necessary tiger you have to grab the tail of in such situations. Woman was moving with intent in my view, probably not dangerous, but she's transcending the societal code of behaviour and so she instigated whatever happened next

 

Yes, he looks slightly aggressive, if he had grabbed her in a slightly better lookong way it would have been fine.... but thats nitpicking

 

She's not hurt mate

I'm sorry, I most humbly beg your pardon?

 

17 minutes ago, String fellow said:

Despite all the fuss about Mr. Field's actions, isn't today's real news that of President Trump showing restraint by calling off the airstrikes against Iranian military installations?

Arsonist in putting out the fire he helped start shocker.

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With regards to the incident itself, this came up on a climate change thread a while back and I'll reiterate here:

 

The protests may be disruptive and counter-productive, but the issues they raise both nationally and internationally are pertinent - they either get addressed properly in due course or those who don't want to address them end up answering to the Earth...which might not be all that pretty.

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14 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I'll let you figure that one out if and when they do.

 

Have a good afternoon (depending on which part of the world you inhabit, of course).

Oh leicsmac I wish my heart were as bountiful as yours

 

For what its worth, from mine own wretched shell of humanity I wish you a good afternoon also

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12 minutes ago, James. said:

Case closed.

Not really, its a bit of a difference between a party conference where specialist security screening is in place and you need a pass to get in to it to a function at Mansion House where it isn't and the public can mill around.

 

Can't comment on the McVey launch as I don't what the entry procedures or security was.

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No problem with Field frogmarching out a protester as there was seemingly little security around.

The manner of it, however, was over the top and he should rightly apologise.

 

Had it been my daughter protesting, and assuming she didn't suffer any physical damage, I wouldn't have a massive issue with it.

She shouldn't have been there and probably expected to get chucked out.

 

As others have said, the left/right viewpoints are typical.

Had it been Corbyn doing it, you know social media would've viewed it quite differently.

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17 minutes ago, James. said:

Case closed.

Except every situation we find ourselves in is different. Sometimes we fight, sometimes we run away (flight) and sometimes we freeze (do nothing)

 

Makes me smile how how everyone is an expert on what was going on in Fields' head last night. Even though he said he was "genuinely worried" and "instinctively reacted" and that guests had "understandably felt threatened" that's obviously not a good enough explanation for some...

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