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Which of our players would get into 'top 6' sides?

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6 hours ago, Cheesemaker22 said:

Man City: Chilwell, Ricardo

Liverpool: Tielemans

Spurs: Ricardo, Chilwell, Ndidi, Tielemans

Arsenal: Chilwell, Evans, Ricardo, Ndidi, Maddison, Tielemans

Chelsea: Vardy, Maddison, Chilwell, Ricardo

Man U: Ndidi, Tielemans, Ricardo, Chilwell, Evans

If we had 6 players who could get into the Arsenal we would be above them, not miles behind them. Ricardo isn't defensively good enough to play for a Man City either and no way can he be described as better than Walker.

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59 minutes ago, MattP said:

If we had 6 players who could get into the Arsenal we would be above them, not miles behind them. Ricardo isn't defensively good enough to play for a Man City either and no way can he be described as better than Walker.

We may well of been above them if Rogers was manager at the start of the season 

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Kasper - potentially better than Leno but otherwise can't make a case for him.

 

Ricardo- better than Young, Bellerin, Emerson. Not too far behind TAA, Trippier or Walker.

 

Evans and Maguire - better than Smalling and Lindelof, Mustafi and Sokartis.

 

Chilwell - only Andy Robertson has been better imo. 

 

Ndidi - only Kante is better imo but he doesn't play this position. 

 

Maddison - Eriksen, David Silva are the better players in his position.

 

Tielemans- I think all the big 6 are missing a player like this. He would go into all their teams

 

Barnes - think all the big 6 have better players than him but he's got potential to be better than some of them.

 

Gray - wouldn't get into any of the teams but has potential to be a good player 

 

Vardy - would be starting for United, Arsenal, Chelsea for sure.

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54 minutes ago, MattP said:

If we had 6 players who could get into the Arsenal we would be above them, not miles behind them. Ricardo isn't defensively good enough to play for a Man City either and no way can he be described as better than Walker.

I'm not sure that logic holds about Arsenal. It's not impossible for us to have 6 players a bit better than their 6 weakest regular first teamers and still be well behind them in the table. If their remaining regulars are much stronger than our other 5 regulars (which they probably are) and their wider squad has a much greater depth of quality to cope with injuries/ suspensions (which it does) then that is probably going to explain the difference in points. 

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10 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said:

But Ric is! Amazes me that the big teams here and in Spain overlooked him. Okay, he's not the best defensively but in a top team dominating possession he'd be devastating. To think that Man U bought Dalot instead - for more money!?

To think without Puel we would not hat got him. 

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Man City- Chilwell, Maguire.

Liverpool- Maguire, Tielemans.

Spurs- Ricardo, Chilwell, Tielemans.

Arsenal- Schmeichel, Ricardo, Maguire, Evans, Chilwell, Maddison, Tielemans.

Chelsea- Chilwell, Maguire, Tielemans, Vardy. 

Man U- Ricardo, Chilwell, Evans, Maguire, Maddison, Tielemans, Vardy. 

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Almost 2 questions to be asked here:

 

1. Who in our team is better than the equivalent in a top 6 team? Probably not that many.

 

2. Who in our team is good enough to play for a top 6 team? Probably quite a few 

 

Obviously the challenge for us is getting them to be more consistent, work on the mental side of the game and hopefully keep most of this talented bunch together.

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2 hours ago, Fox85 said:

We may well of been above them if Rogers was manager at the start of the season 

I like Rodgers but I think it's a pretty big stretch to have us competing for third with this squad of players.

 

35 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Arsenal- Schmeichel, Ricardo, Maguire, Evans, Chilwell, Maddison, Tielemans.

We've conceded more goals than Arsenal this season so we aren't replacing their whole back five!

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Kasper wouldn't get in any.

 

ricardo would get in as an attacking wing back - not as a defender

Maguire would get in as an attacking CB

Evans should get in but wouldn't

Wes would get in all of them - at least it seems he's indispensible

Chilwell would get in as an attacking WB

 

Ndidi could get in

Hamza could play in any of them

Maddison and Tielemans would not get in yet.

Vardy could get in

 

 

As a striker Vardy is definitely one of the best 5 in the prem.

As a game destroying midfielder Ndidi is definitely one of the best 5 in the prem

Maguire is a top 5 CB going forward

Chilwell is a top 5 LWB

 

Not really sure any of our other players are top 5 in the prem. I'd suggest the age of our team is in our favour and several may well become top 5 (as is our hope) but they aren't there yet.

 

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4 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

Ricardo may be the best RB in the PL, but the longer the power clubs take to figure that out the better.

 

Going forward, he may be top 3.

 

He makes so many defensive mistakes he cannot be classed as even a top 5 prem RB when defence is important.

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4 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said:

I'm not sure that logic holds about Arsenal. It's not impossible for us to have 6 players a bit better than their 6 weakest regular first teamers and still be well behind them in the table. If their remaining regulars are much stronger than our other 5 regulars (which they probably are) and their wider squad has a much greater depth of quality to cope with injuries/ suspensions (which it does) then that is probably going to explain the difference in points. 

It's a serious stretch though isn't it, our weakest players are not that bad and one mentioned not in the Arsenal side is Vardy.

 

We are the same amount of points behind Arsenal as Cardiff are behind us - we would be pissing ourselves if the taffs were saying six of there players would get in our teams.

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14 hours ago, murphy said:

I think Vardy would get into every top 6 six team except Spurs.  He'd bag bazillions for Liverpool.

Agree, Vardy's work rate,  pace and finishing ability is second to none. With the chances Man City & Liverpool create,  he'd score plenty. 

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7 hours ago, MattP said:

If we had 6 players who could get into the Arsenal we would be above them, not miles behind them. Ricardo isn't defensively good enough to play for a Man City either and no way can he be described as better than Walker.

It just goes to show how important some positions are in a team - our wingers have probably been our greatest weakness this season so far, and without those, you'll struggle to score enough goals to beat a few teams, especially those like Arsenal, over a season.  (Hopefully it'll be much better next season, with Amartey back, freeing up Ricardo to play on the wing + Barnes and Albrighton, so...)

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