DB11 Posted 23 April 2019 Posted 23 April 2019 4 minutes ago, Mike the Metal Ed said: Such a false dawn. We were unlucky to lose to Blackpool on the opening day, followed by a strong performance at Crystal Palace and we trounced Watford 4-1 at home. He turned Mark de Vries into a machine, somehow and we genuinely, for a month, looked like we'd stopped the rot of the previous three seasons. 45 minutes of shocking football at Forest before Clive Clarke fell ill was the first time we hadn't looked great under him and then it was over. I'd love to know what went on between him and Mandy behind closed doors. In the long term, I think he's shown that we wouldn't have done great under him, but the same could be said of Nigel Pearson had he been in charge for just two months. His rambling blogs on LCFC.com are long lost, but I have to post this summary of one example from the Mirror. Take care, Martin. He never should have bothered
Fox92 Posted 23 April 2019 Posted 23 April 2019 16 hours ago, Nod.E said: Remember hearing that a lot of his leaving was centred around Kaebi. His signing had nothing to do with Allen, he didn't speak a word of English and Mandaric was telling Allen that he had to play him. When Allen refused, Mandaric didn't take well to that and the rest is history. I remember Hull away, one of the worst games I've ever been too, pretty sure that was Kaebi's debut
Mr Mister Posted 23 April 2019 Posted 23 April 2019 He was never given the time to build his team. His sacking began the instability of that season.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 23 April 2019 Posted 23 April 2019 Just now, Mr Mister said: He was never given the time to build his team. His sacking began the instability of that season. And judging by the signings he did make, that was probably a good thing.
davieG Posted 23 April 2019 Author Posted 23 April 2019 2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: And judging by the signings he did make, that was probably a good thing. Most weren't his though they were Mandarics.
DennisNedry Posted 23 April 2019 Posted 23 April 2019 I remember the pre-season Q&A with him. There was a positive feel around the fans. God, looking back at the mid to late 2000s is truly dreadful. What a mess we were in!
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 23 April 2019 Posted 23 April 2019 28 minutes ago, davieG said: Most weren't his though they were Mandarics. Considering they were pretty much all failures, does it matter whose signings were whose?
Wymsey Posted 23 April 2019 Posted 23 April 2019 9 hours ago, Footballwipe said: I started archiving stuff about Leicester from the telly around this time; here's a feature on the day after his sacking with three fans calling for him to be reinstated. Thanks for that, enjoyed watching this - a great insight at the time about the situation back then. Who would've imagined what had happened 9/10 years after this.. Really is incredible; such a roller-coaster affair at the club since then. Fans from clubs in particular like Coventry and Forest now must be really bitter about LCFC's triumph a decade after the above debacle..
MC Prussian Posted 23 April 2019 Posted 23 April 2019 At the time, I thought he was a rather bizarre appointment as manager. Granted, he had some success with Brentford before, but it had the feel of a rather unambitious and bland move that just didn't fit right from the get-go. The longer the season went on, stories emerged about him behaving oddly, his egocentric personality and he seemed very much out of his depth at this level sportive-wise. The rise to prominence came too fast, too early. Coupled with Mandaric interfering in terms of transfers, it was a recipe for disaster. Then again, that was in a revolving door era under Mandaric who you could say didn't really have quite the nose for getting it right with managers. Apart from Nigel Pearson, of course. Sacking managers every couple of months just seemed so normal back then, you were getting used to it. Remember it was Allen who allegedly helped saving Clive Clarke's life in the dressing room during the Forest cup game: https://www.the42.ie/clive-clarke-irish-footballer-interview-agent-3409021-May2017/
Plastik Man Posted 24 April 2019 Posted 24 April 2019 On 22/04/2019 at 20:14, davieG said: There was a flurry of new signings: Bruno N’Gotty, Jimmy Neilson, Ricky Sappleton, Carl Cort, Sergio Hellings, Radostin Kishishev, James Chambers, Jonathan Hayes, Hossein Kaebi, Shaun Newton, Stephen Clemence and DJ Campbell. Oh my god. Just stop. That's enough! When he signed Sappleton didn't he challenge him to a race to the nearest lamp post or something equally bizarre?
davieG Posted 24 April 2019 Author Posted 24 April 2019 12 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: Considering they were pretty much all failures, does it matter whose signings were whose? Only with respect to you using them to rate Allen, you could judge him many ways but not on the signings.
Father Ted Posted 24 April 2019 Posted 24 April 2019 I remember when he came in and the first week of pre season he didn't have the lads training but doing chores round the training ground to "appreciate what other members of staff do" ? James Wesolowski was packing people's season tickets, Alan Sheehan was planting flowerbeds and apparently he even had some players cleaning toilets ???
Nickfosse Posted 24 April 2019 Posted 24 April 2019 2 hours ago, Father Ted said: I remember when he came in and the first week of pre season he didn't have the lads training but doing chores round the training ground to "appreciate what other members of staff do" ? James Wesolowski was packing people's season tickets, Alan Sheehan was planting flowerbeds and apparently he even had some players cleaning toilets ??? Didn’t Bielsa do this at Leeds last pre season too?
Vacamion Posted 24 April 2019 Posted 24 April 2019 I was genuinely gutted when MA left, because I thought he was going to take us places. Casino Jimmy, Ricky Sappleton and Hossein Kaebi. We were bound for glory. Shows you how little I know.
Corky Posted 24 April 2019 Posted 24 April 2019 1 hour ago, Nickfosse said: Didn’t Bielsa do this at Leeds last pre season too? Natural order. Guardiola and Pochettino follow Bielsa, Bielsa follows Martin Allen.
l444ry Posted 24 April 2019 Posted 24 April 2019 He was featured in the West Ham programme this week. Gave it away outside the ground but think he said he inherited 55 players and Mandaric was signing anything that wasn't nailed down without any discussion. Also said that he had a 5'4" right back called Hossein Kaebi but he wanted a footballer not a jockey.
fazzyfox Posted 24 April 2019 Posted 24 April 2019 28 minutes ago, l444ry said: He was featured in the West Ham programme this week. Gave it away outside the ground but think he said he inherited 55 players and Mandaric was signing anything that wasn't nailed down without any discussion. Also said that he had a 5'4" right back called Hossein Kaebi but he wanted a footballer not a jockey. Hope Kaebi doesn't take a-fence!
Gamble92 Posted 25 April 2019 Posted 25 April 2019 22 hours ago, OldBob said: Jon Rudkin making an appearance back then to ? Looking strangely like he'd just been sacked from his office job and about to go and get some revenge
Guy Posted 25 April 2019 Posted 25 April 2019 Martin Allen was quirky to say the least and an eccentric character but regardless of his 'breath of fresh air' persona I don't think we'd have 'gone places' had he stayed with the majority of those signings - although stranger things have happened of course, like us winning the Prem. a mere nine years later! However the only good thing about this ill fated season was that it lead to Nigel Pearson coming here the summer after : end of!
jamesmilner Posted 25 April 2019 Posted 25 April 2019 Martin Allen was sacked shortly after his F.I.F.O performance , this was in front of all the staff . 100% fact !!
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