Popular Post Muzzy_Larsson Posted 8 January 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 8 January 2020 14 minutes ago, 4everfox said: You're basing this opinion on a striker being decent in a league where Mark De Vries looked good, and said league is even worse since then. When you're playing against piss poor defenders every week you're bound to look decent regardless of actual ability. I just can't see it myself. I’m not trying to even consider arguing the SPFL is even in the same stratosphere as the EPL, it isn’t, it’s of course vastly weaker but you can’t apply this high contrast logic to a player and say he’d be no good simply because of the league he plays in. Football, footballers and their development are far too variable for that and any such approach is the very definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Luckily the people who run your club seem to be very much on the ball and wouldn’t have such a simplistic outlook. Teemu Pukki was garbage in the SPFL and is tearing up the EPL. Van dijk made playing in the SPFL a cakewalk and has done exactly the same in the EPL. Gary Hooper scored a ton of goals in the SPFL and bombed in the EPL. There are success stories and disappointments, similar to any prospective signing coming from any league. The alternatives are go and sign someone from a stronger league, say Portugal, you could still end up with a Slimani. Or go and pay the EPL premium and spend some bonkers amount like £70m on Connor Wilson with not much more guarantee of success. Sometimes there is a snobbery on here with regards lesser leagues which is disappointing as most of the people who exhibit this are the same who have a near cardiac arrest at the snobbery of clubs such as Man Utd and their fans when they think they can just cherry pick Leicester players on a whim. 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 11 goals in 6 games for France U21s? Gerrimin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 1 minute ago, Langston said: I actually do think he's worth that in the market for the reasons mentioned, he's class, but surely it's easy(ish) to unsettle someone north of the border and drive that price down? Lyon tried that with Dembele, Arsenal done the same with Tierney for the whole of the summer and we ended up getting our asking price for both in the end. I’m not his biggest fan but Lawell is a very hard nosed negotiator and consistently gets us fair prices for our exports. I’d be astonished if Edouard left for any less than £25m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 Chris Buttocks will never allow this move. Close Thread now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 7 minutes ago, henrik_62 said: There are success stories and disappointments, similar to any prospective signing coming from any league. The alternatives are go and sign someone from a stronger league, say Portugal, you could still end up with a Slimani. Or go and pay the EPL premium and spend some bonkers amount like £70m on Connor Wilson with not much more guarantee of success. Ouch! Right in the $&£$#. No need! Sensible price, seems a decent player, if all parties can reach an agreement could see it happening in the Summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 3 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Chris Buttocks will never allow this move. Close Thread now. That in itself is a reason to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 31 minutes ago, 4everfox said: You're basing this opinion on a striker being decent in a league where Mark De Vries looked good, and said league is even worse since then. When you're playing against piss poor defenders every week you're bound to look decent regardless of actual ability. I just can't see it myself. Rodgers has worked with the likes of Suarez and Coutinho.... I'm satisfied he can identify a good player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 Just now, Dahnsouff said: That in itself is a reason to get it done. Tbf I think most Celtic fans expect Edouard to be away in the summer and wouldn't hold any grudge should he leave, to wherever that may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 1 minute ago, Pliskin said: Rodgers has worked with the likes of Suarez and Coutinho.... I'm satisfied he can identify a good player. This is a good point, attackers especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 How many goals would Vardy score in the SPL playing for either of the Old Firm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 34 minutes ago, mozartfox said: How many goals would Vardy score in the SPL playing for either of the Old Firm? 45-50 a season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 1 hour ago, 4everfox said: You're basing this opinion on a striker being decent in a league where Mark De Vries looked good, and said league is even worse since then. When you're playing against piss poor defenders every week you're bound to look decent regardless of actual ability. I just can't see it myself. Had the manager responsible for signing De Vries worked with him in the SPL? How many times do people have to mention that as Rodgers has worked with Edouard that he may have more of an idea of what the player is capable of you than posters on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 20 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: 45-50 a season Probably about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooflip Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 1 hour ago, henrik_62 said: Or go and pay the EPL premium and spend some bonkers amount like £70m on Connor Wilson with not much more guarantee of success Is that Callum Wilson or Connor wickham? Or both for 70m? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 1 hour ago, henrik_62 said: I’m not trying to even consider arguing the SPFL is even in the same stratosphere as the EPL, it isn’t, it’s of course vastly weaker but you can’t apply this high contrast logic to a player and say he’d be no good simply because of the league he plays in. Football, footballers and their development are far too variable for that and any such approach is the very definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Luckily the people who run your club seem to be very much on the ball and wouldn’t have such a simplistic outlook. Teemu Pukki was garbage in the SPFL and is tearing up the EPL. Van dijk made playing in the SPFL a cakewalk and has done exactly the same in the EPL. Gary Hooper scored a ton of goals in the SPFL and bombed in the EPL. There are success stories and disappointments, similar to any prospective signing coming from any league. The alternatives are go and sign someone from a stronger league, say Portugal, you could still end up with a Slimani. Or go and pay the EPL premium and spend some bonkers amount like £70m on Connor Wilson with not much more guarantee of success. Sometimes there is a snobbery on here with regards lesser leagues which is disappointing as most of the people who exhibit this are the same who have a near cardiac arrest at the snobbery of clubs such as Man Utd and their fans when they think they can just cherry pick Leicester players on a whim. Logged in just to like this post. Top quality and agree with everything you said. Not seen such a well reasoned, logical post on here for a while. X 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everfox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 1 hour ago, hackneyfox said: Had the manager responsible for signing De Vries worked with him in the SPL? How many times do people have to mention that as Rodgers has worked with Edouard that he may have more of an idea of what the player is capable of you than posters on here. I might be wrong, but I reckon Craig Levein signed him after joining us from Hearts, so I'll say yes. I think he signed a couple from Hearts including Dr Vries and Maybury, possibly more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 (edited) Edouard has actually scored a goal against Leicester City once in his career. He'll also have two years left on his contract this summer which will probably make Celtic sell him. Edited 8 January 2020 by Gerard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 This is the sort of signing I can see us making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 9 hours ago, henrik_62 said: he’s cool as ice in front of goal. I like the sound of that a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 (edited) What is £30 million in football in this day and age though, really? Everything is inflated up to high heaven I feel like some people are still living in the era where it was only the top sides that can throw that sort of money about. Look at Perez as an example! And I like Perez! Edited 8 January 2020 by Manini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 1 hour ago, 4everfox said: I might be wrong, but I reckon Craig Levein signed him after joining us from Hearts, so I'll say yes. I think he signed a couple from Hearts including Dr Vries and Maybury, possibly more. Oops you’re right, apologies but I reckon Rodgers has more idea of whether an SPL player can make it here than Leveine ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 I like him but do we need him? Unless there’s some sort of plan to sell off a few in the summer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: I like him but do we need him? Unless there’s some sort of plan to sell off a few in the summer?? Vardy won’t go on forever and bleeding Edouard or whoever it may be in gradually may help ease the transition to life without Vardy. I’m not suggesting replacing him because no one can do that but you may be able to take the sting out of it a bit now by succession planning properly. Edited 8 January 2020 by henrik_62 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 4 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: I like him but do we need him? Unless there’s some sort of plan to sell off a few in the summer?? Vardy isn’t getting any younger, that leaves Ihenacho as the only other striker really. Wouldn’t call it a top priority but we could do with someone who can play upfront. I’d have more confidence in Ihenacho stepping up after watching him recently but playing without Vardy gives you the option to play two up front if needs be, to make up for his work rate up there more than anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 8 January 2020 Share Posted 8 January 2020 3 hours ago, henrik_62 said: Vardy won’t go on forever and bleeding Edouard or whoever it may be in gradually may help ease the transition to life without Vardy. I’m not suggesting replacing him because no one can do that but you may be able to take the sting out of it a bit now by succession planning properly. I’m just not sure there is ever gonna be the perfect time to bleed another striker in, anyone being signed seems a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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