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12 minutes ago, henrik_62 said:

admittedly I’ve not see too much of him since he’s been at Leicester.

 

Yeah... I know. We can tell. 

 

Hence why I'm correcting you. 

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16 minutes ago, henrik_62 said:

The Rodgers effect that! That’s his biggest asset imo, taking players and developing them, when he arrived at Celtic there was 2 or 3 everyone would have chased out the door themselves then a year later they were world beaters (for us anyway), Armstrong, Forrest and McGregor the most obvious ones.

I think it's probably more a case of Rodgers' man management getting his confidence back up and improving his on-field attitude, rather than actually developing him into a world beater. He's basically (finally) doing the exact same thing he was already doing at Man City when we bought him 3 years ago - incredibly clinical impact sub with a ridiculous goals / min record. 

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3 hours ago, brucey said:

I think it's probably more a case of Rodgers' man management getting his confidence back up and improving his on-field attitude, rather than actually developing him into a world beater. He's basically (finally) doing the exact same thing he was already doing at Man City when we bought him 3 years ago - incredibly clinical impact sub with a ridiculous goals / min record. 

Which is part of developing a player, a lot of the time the mental side of things is far harder to coach/ingrain than the physical.

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42 minutes ago, henrik_62 said:

Which is part of developing a player, a lot of the time the mental side of things is far harder to coach/ingrain than the physical.

A lot of young players have huge talent, but struggle with the mental side. Physical aspects you can work on and clearly see an improvement, but trying to help a player mentally improve is so much harder 

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His best strength of being able to develop/improve players is why this job is the perfect fit for Rodgers.

 

Sure, he'd be a huge improvement on say Arteta at Arsenal, but the ambitions of the fans and the club don't match in the slightest.

Arsenal fans believe they should be challenging for the League, when the reality is, given the emergence of Man City and Spurs over recent years, they shouldn't be getting in the Top 4.

Until their fans accept that they will not be challenging for major honours until either a) They receive huge investment or b) The other clubs mess up massively, the manager will always be on a hiding to nothing there.

 

There's very very few clubs in Europe, outside of the very Elite, who can offer what we can. A top league, we pay what I would refer to as the 'second highest wage bracket' where we are willing to pay £100k for what we consider key players, and have very ambitious owners who were laughed at when we got promoted for telling the media that we will win the Premier League title in the future....Admittedly earlier than even Vichai/Top predicted.

 

Very few players, especially today, transfer from say Arsenal/Chelsea to Man City/Liverpool. I think players are beginning to realize that you're far more likely to get the moves to the sides fighting for the title, by actually joining a side like us or say Wolves, in the short term and then impress, to get that huge move.

 

 

Edouard in the summer isn't a huge risk, as Rodgers knows what he is all about.

But i'd be much happier with a proven more experienced player like an Antonio, in addition to a 'Project player' like Edouard.

Antonio will get you that 8-12 goals guaranteed, then Edouard's contributions are a bonus.

 

 

We wasted our last success in the league on buying unproven 'European talent'.

It's all about a balance of signings. If Villa/West Ham went down, we already know there are guys there like Mcginn/Mings/Antonio that would improve our squad depth, especially with Europe next year.

Signing relegated players.....There's nothing wrong with it at all. You know what those players offer.

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Took it upon myself to go on a scouting mission today (you’re all welcome) to see this guy in the flesh vs Ross County. 
 

He started on the bench, and scored 2 goals within 5 minutes of coming on. He’s the real deal. 

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1 minute ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said:

Took it upon myself to go on a scouting mission today (you’re all welcome) to see this guy in the flesh vs Ross County. 
 

He started on the bench, and scored 2 goals within 5 minutes of coming on. He’s the real deal. 

@henrik_62 please confirm he is the real deal and it wasn’t the Tennents talking. 

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13 minutes ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said:

@henrik_62 please confirm he is the real deal and it wasn’t the Tennents talking. 

Lol Yeah see my post on the Bergwein thread, posted it on there by accident instead of this thread. He was utterly majestic today, a real privilege to see in the flesh.

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Absolutely no doubt that the guy is quality. He has it in him to go far in the game, we just dont need him unfortunately. 

 

Vardy is playing some of the best football of his career at 33 and Ian is starting to look like the player we spent big bucks on. Not to mention, Perez looks far more dangerous up top than he does on the wing. 

 

No point in signing a player (quality or not) for the sake of it. 

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3 hours ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said:

Took it upon myself to go on a scouting mission today (you’re all welcome) to see this guy in the flesh vs Ross County. 
 

He started on the bench, and scored 2 goals within 5 minutes of coming on. He’s the real deal. 

With all due respect, Ross County would struggle in the Beazer Homes League Midland Combination.  

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He’s quality, I watched the Celtic game and he was as @henrik_62 said, majestic. I 100% want him here in the summer, he is the kind of under the radar signing who will fast become a premier league monster. 

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14 hours ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said:

Took it upon myself to go on a scouting mission today (you’re all welcome) to see this guy in the flesh vs Ross County. 
 

He started on the bench, and scored 2 goals within 5 minutes of coming on. He’s the real deal. 

My Gran plays walking football she is 72 and her team of grannies would give Ross county a run for their money 

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13 hours ago, Foxy_Bear said:

Absolutely no doubt that the guy is quality. He has it in him to go far in the game, we just dont need him unfortunately. 

 

Vardy is playing some of the best football of his career at 33 and Ian is starting to look like the player we spent big bucks on. Not to mention, Perez looks far more dangerous up top than he does on the wing. 

 

No point in signing a player (quality or not) for the sake of it. 

He would come here to be one of three strikers re salary and our status if we are top 4  .... we will need three quality options next season if we make CL.  Vardy shouldn’t have to play 90mins week after week. Look at how often Aguerro is hooked with twenty to go. 

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1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

He would come here to be one of three strikers re salary and our status if we are top 4  .... we will need three quality options next season if we make CL.  Vardy shouldn’t have to play 90mins week after week. Look at how often Aguerro is hooked with twenty to go. 

Exactly my point. 

 

Vardy, Nacho, Perez should be the 3 options, in that order. We don't need another. The focus should be on a first team RWer because Perez isn't the answer there. 

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7 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

Exactly my point. 

 

Vardy, Nacho, Perez should be the 3 options, in that order. We don't need another. The focus should be on a first team RWer because Perez isn't the answer there. 

Pérez isn’t a top of the pitch striker imo ..... he is a no 10 or inside forward 

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17 hours ago, mozartfox said:

With all due respect, Ross County would struggle in the Beazer Homes League Midland Combination.  

 

This joke wasn't that funny the first time you made it mate.

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32 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

And it's not even remotely true. Watched rangers v hearts this afternoon after United 3rd goal went in and it was a cracking watch. Fantastic atmosphere. Frenetic pace, some good players going at it. Obviously not at the level of the premier league but only a handful of countries are, what do people expect with Scotland's population?

 

Also this year in Europe rangers have beaten Porto and Feyenord and Celtic have done Lazio twice hardly non league stuff.

Never mind Mozartfox, he must have been molested by scottish football as a young boy and hasn't come to terms with it yet. 

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4 hours ago, Langston said:

 

This joke wasn't that funny the first time you made it mate.

It is the first time. 

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@henrik_62

 

What is he like on the ball?

 

Edouard would only really feature when Vardy would be injured/rested, and when we're desperate for a goal, as Rodgers is reluctant to play two up top.

 

Can he play slightly deeper, as the one who comes to show for the ball when Vardy looks to get in behind?

Or even play out as one of the front 3, who sits narrower to Vardy with a more natural winger on the other side?

Iheanacho is getting better and better all the time, but we need a 3rd forward, and Edouard's physicality fits perfectly.

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14 minutes ago, CityIsBlue said:

@henrik_62

 

What is he like on the ball?

 

Edouard would only really feature when Vardy would be injured/rested, and when we're desperate for a goal, as Rodgers is reluctant to play two up top.

 

Can he play slightly deeper, as the one who comes to show for the ball when Vardy looks to get in behind?

Or even play out as one of the front 3, who sits narrower to Vardy with a more natural winger on the other side?

Iheanacho is getting better and better all the time, but we need a 3rd forward, and Edouard's physicality fits perfectly.

His first touch is exquisite, one of his biggest strengths.  He does both, he'll peel to the left to pick up the ball and turn and run at defenders but when we play in Europe and teams play with a higher line he'll look to run in behind and use his pace, he's lightning quick.

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Very short term / small club thinking not to add another Striker.  We are looking at CL football next season, plus two cups we would actually like to win.  We need more quality all over the pitch.

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Time to add a striker was either last Summer or next, certainly not in the Winter window.

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