josh_baskin Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: Go on, tell us all you know about Marxism. maybe I do Edited 13 June 2020 by josh_baskin
Foxin_Mad Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 17 minutes ago, Mint23 said: Can people stop using the term “far left” for a group of people just looking for equality for all please. Nobody is saying that ONLY black lives matter and just because you agree with black lives matter doesn’t mean that you think white lives don’t matter but at this moment in time saying all lives matter is like telling a fireman that all houses matter, yes all houses do matter but there’s only one house that’s on fire at the moment. I dont think anyone is calling the initial group far left. However, there can be absolutely no doubt that the far left have jumped on this for their own twisted political gain and to push their ideologies just as the far right will put their weight behind protecting statues for their own gain. When talking about equality in 2020 we absolutely do not need to be desecrating monuments and war memorials and engaging in violence with police officers that will do no favours for the cause. Peaceful, non violent protests and awareness drives such as this absolutely - yes fully behind it. We can't deny the far left are trying to hijack this and we need to be aware of this. To deny it is being an Ostrich.
Popular Post Carl the Llama Posted 13 June 2020 Popular Post Posted 13 June 2020 Where on earth is all this blm as a far left organisation come from. Is that what the sun/daily mail are saying? Wherever it comes from it's completely removed from reality. 8 1
StanSP Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 Just now, Carl the Llama said: Where on earth is all this blm as a far left organisation come from. Is that what the sun/daily mail are saying? Wherever it comes from it's completely removed from reality. And succeeding in the message that kind of media wants to get across, simultaneously detracting from the real message that BLM want to put across.
Carl the Llama Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 This morning has taught me that the racism issue in this country is a bigger, more entrenched problem than I initially thought. Sad times. 1 1 1
Nuneatonfox in Manchester Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 22 minutes ago, Mint23 said: Can people stop using the term “far left” for a group of people just looking for equality for all please. Nobody is saying that ONLY black lives matter and just because you agree with black lives matter doesn’t mean that you think white lives don’t matter but at this moment in time saying all lives matter is like telling a fireman that all houses matter, yes all houses do matter but there’s only one house that’s on fire at the moment. Have you read the official BLM manifesto? ‘Far left’ is putting it mildly. The premier league could easily condemn racism without endorsing that lunacy.
Wortho Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 2 hours ago, Spudulike said: I think that perhaps football should stick with the 'Kick it out' message. No need for BLM. Basically BLM are from the US not the UK. They're anti capitalist and want to refund the police. "Kick it out" would be fine. Why don't the players have "Floyd" on their shirts as a tribute to the murdered thug. 2
Popular Post Finnaldo Posted 13 June 2020 Popular Post Posted 13 June 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, josh_baskin said: This was what installed the belief into me. Ah yes, asking one particularly Hard Left Extremist, who’s taken part in a decentralised movement to address racial inequalities, means the entire movement is a Marxist-Stalinist group sent to destroy the country. In other news, the Conservatives are a Far Right Party who all hate ethnic minorities: https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/28/britain-first-far-right-members-5000-have-joined-tories Here’s food for thought: if people didn’t get so dismissive of a group being evil commie traitors, and interacted with them, and worked with them, then the extremists within the movement would get quickly sidelined. In terms of the news: glad to see our skipper Wes pushing for this. Great precedent to set, an example on and off the pitch! Edited 13 June 2020 by Finnaldo 4 2
HighPeakFox Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 22 minutes ago, josh_baskin said: maybe I do Well I am impressed you at least own the book. Did you enjoy reading it? 2
StanSP Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 12 minutes ago, Wortho said: Basically BLM are from the US not the UK. They're anti capitalist and want to refund the police. "Kick it out" would be fine. Why don't the players have "Floyd" on their shirts as a tribute to the murdered thug. So BLM only matters in US? Noted!
Footballwipe Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 Cor this thread is really sorting out the racists from the sane people, doesn't it. Look at these true colours shining through. 1 1
Nuneatonfox in Manchester Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 1 minute ago, Footballwipe said: Cor this thread is really sorting out the racists from the sane people, doesn't it. Look at these true colours shining through. Come on then, who are the racists? 3 1
Wymsey Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 2 minutes ago, Nuneatonfox in Manchester said: Come on then, who are the racists? This. Struggling to find out who they are on here. 1
Popular Post Carl the Llama Posted 13 June 2020 Popular Post Posted 13 June 2020 11 minutes ago, Wymsey said: This. Struggling to find out who they are on here. Start with the men who are willing to believe that a push for a fairer society is a left wing conspiracy against their interests. 5 1
Gazza3 Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 England were not allowed to wear a poppy symbol on their shirts recently yet premier league is allowing clubs a political message on shirts
Nick Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 1 hour ago, josh_baskin said: Sorry I’ll use the term Marxist next time Which would be equally as ignorant. 3 1
Finnaldo Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 2 minutes ago, Gazza3 said: England were not allowed to wear a poppy symbol on their shirts recently yet premier league is allowing clubs a political message on shirts That’s the difference between FIFA, that apparently doesn’t allow any political symbolism, and the Premier League, that seemingly does, which also allows poppies (for what it’s worth, I think England should have been allowed to use the poppy on the shirt). 4
turtmcfly Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 39 minutes ago, Wortho said: Basically BLM are from the US not the UK. They're anti capitalist and want to refund the police. "Kick it out" would be fine. Why don't the players have "Floyd" on their shirts as a tribute to the murdered thug. Magnanimous to a fault
CosbehFox Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 44 minutes ago, Nuneatonfox in Manchester said: Have you read the official BLM manifesto? ‘Far left’ is putting it mildly. The premier league could easily condemn racism without endorsing that lunacy. https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/ Yeah, read through it three/four times this morning and struggling to see the overtly political leanings. 3
josh_baskin Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: Which would be equally as ignorant. Equally as true as no Karl Marx statues have been under any threat in this country as of yet, funny that Edited 13 June 2020 by josh_baskin
casablancas Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 Christ there is a fair few knuckle draggers on here and that is me being polite. It’s a shame that fans from Leicester one of, if not the most diverse area in Europe. I understand people are ‘Individuals’ and entitled to their opinions but some on here are extremely obtuse. But if you cannot understand the importance of this message then please check some stats. For example arrest rates in the uk. People are not asking for our history as a nation to be removed or retold in another version. All they are asking for is equality and to be offered the same opportunities. The fact that racism has found its way back into English football is a massive concern and if you either can’t see that or don’t see it as a problem then we are not as enlightened as we claim. 3 1
BlueSi13 Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 An absolutely terrible decision from the Premier League. There's simply no hiding the fact that Black Lives Matter are a militant Marxist organisation that wants to abolish Capitalism. It's literally spelled out on their own GoFundMe page: https://uk.gofundme.com/f/ukblm-fund Let's not forget they also want to defund/abolish the Police (will future games no longer be policed then?). Politics has absolutely no place in sport, especially when it's this divisive. If the Premier League had proposed to put "NO TO RACISM" on the back of the shirts then that would be absolutely fine, but instead FORCING players to bear the name of an organisation responsible the desecration of the Cenotaph, Churchill statue and attacks on Police then it sends out a terrible message. Yes to fighting racism. No to Black Lives Matter. 3 1
Nick Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 2 minutes ago, josh_baskin said: Equally as true as no Karl Marx statues have been under any threat in this country as of yet, funny that Yep that makes no sense either.
CosbehFox Posted 13 June 2020 Posted 13 June 2020 3 minutes ago, josh_baskin said: Equally as true as no Karl Marx statues have been under any threat in this country as of yet, funny that https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/16/karl-marxs-london-memorial-vandalised-for-second-time Funny that because his tomb gets vandalised with repeat regularity 2
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