dsr-burnley Posted 14 September 2020 Posted 14 September 2020 3 hours ago, mozartfox said: Please W Ham get this over one the line and then bid for Vestagaard. Forget it. Burnley have 3 centre halves at the club and one of them is injured. We aren't selling Tarkowski unless it's for silly money, and £22m net after Brentford get 27.5% does not qualify as silly money.
happy85 Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 West Ham ready to pay Arsenal £5m to seal Rob Holding loan | Alan Nixon West Ham dropped out of signing Tarkowski
Leicester_Loyal Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 1 hour ago, happy85 said: West Ham ready to pay Arsenal £5m to seal Rob Holding loan | Alan Nixon West Ham dropped out of signing Tarkowski Holding is a decent signing, I suggested him ages ago. He'd have been fine for us as a 3rd CB, but wouldn't solve the long term issue of needing another one.
st albans fox Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 1 hour ago, happy85 said: West Ham ready to pay Arsenal £5m to seal Rob Holding loan | Alan Nixon West Ham dropped out of signing Tarkowski Arteta said on Saturday that holding is going nowhere ....
Popular Post Kevin Russell Posted 15 September 2020 Popular Post Posted 15 September 2020 8 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Arteta said on Saturday that holding is going nowhere .... Holding should go to Leeds - just so I can make a few cheap gags about the Holding-Koch partnership!!! 2 9
hackneyfox Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 21 hours ago, dsr-burnley said: Forget it. Burnley have 3 centre halves at the club and one of them is injured. We aren't selling Tarkowski unless it's for silly money, and £22m net after Brentford get 27.5% does not qualify as silly money. How much did you pay for Tarkowski?
murphy Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 1 hour ago, hackneyfox said: How much did you pay for Tarkowski? Hardly relevant. We paid buttons for Mahrez but we wouldn't sell him for less than the absolute maximum we could extract. 27.5% is a huge sell on fee. A lesson there for selling clubs. You have to make the sell on fee reasonable otherwise you'll never get it. It makes sense for Burnley to just keep him for the remainder of his contract. 1
Guest TaggertvsWise Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 3 hours ago, happy85 said: West Ham ready to pay Arsenal £5m to seal Rob Holding loan | Alan Nixon West Ham dropped out of signing Tarkowski Be surprised at this after how well he played for Arsenal at the weekend
hackneyfox Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 12 minutes ago, murphy said: Hardly relevant. We paid buttons for Mahrez but we wouldn't sell him for less than the absolute maximum we could extract. 27.5% is a huge sell on fee. A lesson there for selling clubs. You have to make the sell on fee reasonable otherwise you'll never get it. It makes sense for Burnley to just keep him for the remainder of his contract. Very relevant as the sell on fee is based on the profit, not the full fee.
murphy Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 4 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Very relevant as the sell on fee is based on the profit, not the full fee. Oh, OK. Well £3m apparently.
hackneyfox Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 7 minutes ago, murphy said: Oh, OK. Well £3m apparently. Damn, I was hoping it was about £15m. Sure you're not just guessing as it was 'undisclosed'?
murphy Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 9 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Damn, I was hoping it was about £15m. Sure you're not just guessing as it was 'undisclosed'? https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/brentford-transfer-news-james-tarkowski-west-ham-a4542386.html
Daveb5569 Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 would be taking a step back if he went to West ham team and club in turmoil
Raw Dykes Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 (edited) Never mind. Edited 15 September 2020 by Raw Dykes ignore
casablancas Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 53 minutes ago, murphy said: Hardly relevant. We paid buttons for Mahrez but we wouldn't sell him for less than the absolute maximum we could extract. 27.5% is a huge sell on fee. A lesson there for selling clubs. You have to make the sell on fee reasonable otherwise you'll never get it. It makes sense for Burnley to just keep him for the remainder of his contract. Perhaps it was a genuine question? Who are you to decide what’s relevant to another individual?
murphy Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 17 minutes ago, casablancas said: Perhaps it was a genuine question? Who are you to decide what’s relevant to another individual? Relevant to Burnley as in the buying price being relevant to the asking price but thanks for that anyway.
jayfox26 Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 46 minutes ago, Daveb5569 said: would be taking a step back if he went to West ham team and club in turmoil Cant see him going there, it's not exactly a step up in terms of league position and or chance of winning silverware. Only reason he might go is if he was getting a huge pay rise. Depends on whether hes motivated by money or by career prospects. At 27 years old, his next move could make or break his career
jayfox26 Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 I wouldn't pay more than £30m for him personally but can understand why Burnley want the best deal possible.
dsr-burnley Posted 15 September 2020 Posted 15 September 2020 10 hours ago, murphy said: Oh, OK. Well £3m apparently. I've heard £3m, I've heard £6m. Definitely, absolutely, no more than £6m. It makes the purported £30m receipt into £22.5m or £23.4m, so not significantly different in terms of decision making on whether to sell.
MPH Posted 16 September 2020 Posted 16 September 2020 14 hours ago, hackneyfox said: Very relevant as the sell on fee is based on the profit, not the full fee. Not always. Depends on the deal that was made. 1
MPH Posted 16 September 2020 Posted 16 September 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, murphy said: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/brentford-transfer-news-james-tarkowski-west-ham-a4542386.html Burnley first quoted the Hammers £50m for Tarkowski, having rejected a bid of £40m from Leicester last summer, but it is understood that an offer of around £30m with add-ons would be enough to get a deal moving didnt realize we bid that much for him.. Edited 16 September 2020 by MPH
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 16 September 2020 Posted 16 September 2020 2 hours ago, MPH said: Burnley first quoted the Hammers £50m for Tarkowski, having rejected a bid of £40m from Leicester last summer, but it is understood that an offer of around £30m with add-ons would be enough to get a deal moving didnt realize we bid that much for him.. Don't think it was quite that much. It was less than what we paid for tielemans I think.
hackneyfox Posted 16 September 2020 Posted 16 September 2020 3 hours ago, MPH said: Not always. Depends on the deal that was made. Really. So you could buy a player for £100m sell him for £50m and still have to pay a sell-on?
Raw Dykes Posted 16 September 2020 Posted 16 September 2020 21 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Really. So you could buy a player for £100m sell him for £50m and still have to pay a sell-on? Yes. If it's a normal 50% sell-on fee, and not a 50% of the profit sell-on fee. You can ask for any kind of clause you want.
adam95581 Posted 16 September 2020 Posted 16 September 2020 £30m seems to be the going rate for both, but which is better value: Tarkowski Pros - proven prem league experience - coming into his prime Cons - probably won’t see much resale value Fofana Pros - plenty of time to develop so resale value could be high - looks like he will add pace to the back line and is aggressive (similar to Cags) Cons - unproven in the prem - unsure if he is able to step in right away
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