Dahnsouff Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 Imagine Tarks would cost north of 30m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHDrive Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 2 minutes ago, adam95581 said: £30m seems to be the going rate for both, but which is better value: Tarkowski Pros - proven prem league experience - coming into his prime Cons - probably won’t see much resale value Fofana Pros - plenty of time to develop so resale value could be high - looks like he will add pace to the back line and is aggressive (similar to Cags) Cons - unproven in the prem - unsure if he is able to step in right away Agree with this although I do think that his pace and strength will remove a lot of the cons pretty quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 3 minutes ago, adam95581 said: £30m seems to be the going rate for both, but which is better value: Tarkowski Pros - proven prem league experience - coming into his prime Cons - probably won’t see much resale value Fofana Pros - plenty of time to develop so resale value could be high - looks like he will add pace to the back line and is aggressive (similar to Cags) Cons - unproven in the prem - unsure if he is able to step in right away Just now, Dahnsouff said: Imagine Tarks would cost north of 30m Didn't Burnley reject West Ham's £30m bid? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 17 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said: Didn't Burnley reject West Ham's £30m bid? Goodness knows, it really depends who one chooses to believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsr-burnley Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 1 hour ago, Raw Dykes said: Didn't Burnley reject West Ham's £30m bid? It's impossible to imagine Burnley's board being fool enough to sell Tarkowski for £30m. (Even though lots of journalists have imagined it.) Tarkowski has a limited escape clause in his contract of £50m to Liverpool, Man U, Man C only. But if someone else bids £50m and Tarkowski wants to go, then he very probably would go. But not for £30m net £23m, that would be nonsensical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 16 September 2020 Share Posted 16 September 2020 4 hours ago, hackneyfox said: Really. So you could buy a player for £100m sell him for £50m and still have to pay a sell-on? if you’re stupid enough to agree to the deal, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy85 Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 Jesus Burnley are serious about getting £50 m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 27 minutes ago, moore_94 said: So West Ham have increased their offer by £1 million? embarrassing..... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 So pleased with are out this auction. Well done Rudders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 It's clear Burnley value him highly and rightly so. A reliable CB that knows the PL is massively worth having. Even if he goes on a free in two years, they'll know from him now what his attitude is and that gives them time to find his replacement. I can admire their stance on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 Surely Burnley will want to sell him to West ham even less than us as it will directly strengthen a relegation rival and weaken themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 Didn't realise Brentford supposedly have got a massive piece of any deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsr-burnley Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 2 hours ago, happy85 said: Burnley are serious about getting £50 m Wrong. Burnley are serious about not selling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 7 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Didn't realise Brentford supposedly have got a massive piece of any deal. Think it's about 25% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy85 Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 4 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said: Wrong. Burnley are serious about not selling. Wrong Burnley already said there happy to sell but at the right price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 5 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said: Wrong. Burnley are serious about not selling. Sensible IMHO. Burnley will not get enough to make it worth their while. Not even close. Are the rumblings about Dyche being disgruntled true? Or just normal paper nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 I don't understand why clubs make a bid, wait for it to be rejected, then make another offer a another day. I don't get why they can't have a call or in person meeting and discuss the price and get it sorted in an hour or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsr-burnley Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 2 minutes ago, happy85 said: Wrong Burnley already said there happy to sell but at the right price Burnley haven't said that. A lot of journalists have quoted rumours that Burnley want to sell. Those rumours are almost certainly false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsr-burnley Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said: Sensible IMHO. Burnley will not get enough to make it worth their while. Not even close. Are the rumblings about Dyche being disgruntled true? Or just normal paper nonsense. He has a dig at the Chairman in almost every interview. He seems happy enough in the job but gives every impression that he would move if someone offered him a decent job. Fortunately, the clubs with money seem to want fancy dan foreigners or tika-taka ball players while the teams that don't have money (not that there are many of them this year) wouldn't be an improved offer. Basically, the Chairman is in charge of getting transfers "over the line" and he has a very rigid idea of wage structure and budget. Dyche wants the budget to be stretched a bit. Dyche has shown over years that he would rather sign no-one than sign a player who doesn't fit in; Garlick (the Chairman) is showing that he would rather sign no-one than sign a player at the wrong price. Which may explain why we have signed no-one! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Fox Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 15 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said: He has a dig at the Chairman in almost every interview. He seems happy enough in the job but gives every impression that he would move if someone offered him a decent job. Fortunately, the clubs with money seem to want fancy dan foreigners or tika-taka ball players while the teams that don't have money (not that there are many of them this year) wouldn't be an improved offer. Basically, the Chairman is in charge of getting transfers "over the line" and he has a very rigid idea of wage structure and budget. Dyche wants the budget to be stretched a bit. Dyche has shown over years that he would rather sign no-one than sign a player who doesn't fit in; Garlick (the Chairman) is showing that he would rather sign no-one than sign a player at the wrong price. Which may explain why we have signed no-one! It's a sensible approach for Burnley who are not cash rich (in comparison to a lot of other PL clubs). To survive in the PL for long periods is not easy for small to medium sized clubs. Norwich, WBA, Swansea, Fulham, Cardiff are just a few examples. Burnley are well run and well managed and have done well to not really be involved in the relegation dogfights in recent years. I expect this will continue to be the case whilst Dyche is still the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 1 minute ago, Blue Fox 72 said: It's a sensible approach for Burnley who are not cash rich (in comparison to a lot of other PL clubs). To survive in the PL for long periods is not easy for small to medium sized clubs. Norwich, WBA, Swansea, Fulham, Cardiff are just a few examples. Burnley are well run and well managed and have done well to not really be involved in the relegation dogfights in recent years. I expect this will continue to be the case whilst Dyche is still the manager. As are Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s11nny Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 33 minutes ago, filbertway said: I don't understand why clubs make a bid, wait for it to be rejected, then make another offer a another day. I don't get why they can't have a call or in person meeting and discuss the price and get it sorted in an hour or two Those phone calls do happen in a lot of instances I presume. I think sometimes making an official bid even if you know it’s going to be rejected sends a statement to the player that he’s seriously wanted. Can sometimes make a player want to put pressure on the club to sell from his side. Just thinking how mahrez reacted when we rejected Roma’s poor offer of £30 odd mill. Sometimes it may serve as a statement to fans that your actually putting in effort to sign players maybe. I suppose it was a bit pointless in West Ham’s case where by they literally just upped the offer by £1m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy85 Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 42 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said: Burnley haven't said that. A lot of journalists have quoted rumours that Burnley want to sell. Those rumours are almost certainly false. The "numbers would need to be considerable" for James Tarkowski to leave Burnley during the transfer window, says manager Sean Dyche. BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 17 September 2020 Share Posted 17 September 2020 It’s not that I don’t rate Tarkowski, but I think there are others who would fit our mould better. I’d rather have someone up and coming who, along with Benkovic, can hopefully push the top two CBs. I hope that Burnley don’t give in to West Ham. If they sell for something like £35m then they’d still have to find a replacement and presumably have to spend a big chunk of it. Whilst also strengthening a team that is inferior to them. If this does go through they need to make sure that the Hammers get their pants pulled down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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