Ric Flair Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 Just now, fox in the sox said: Correct but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t go to Wolves because it is a definite defeat. I expect us to give them a good match. Yes there are obviously defensive/tactical problems but don’t forget before Liverpool we also had a long run of scoring in away matches. Ironically I think Wolves away was pur last clean sheet away and we've got 2 on the spin there in vulgar 0-0 draws where we were very very fortunate. Brendan will be basing his entire plan on the same again. Vestergaard on in the closing minutes and VAR to rule one out in injury time and he'll get off with himself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 It would be a spectacularly bad decision from the club if there was not a clause in that contract that enabled us to sack him without paying him up in full. Levy notoriously has had them in Mourinho and Nuno’s contracts so you’d like to think that there’s something there that, with us in the bottom half, would allow us to pull the trigger without a full pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 Post match interview didn't even acknowledge the issues or manner of the loss. Would love to know why there wasn't any acknowledgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cropwellfox Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: We've won 2 away games all season and not kept a clean aheet away for over a year. Absolutely shocking that. With the run of away games until end of the season I can’t see a clean sheet in any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 Not blaming the players when Brendan threw it away. Is he that stupid. We are in control and look well and safe going forward. He makes his changes we stop attacking and try to defend. Has he not realised we cant defend and by not attacking we put pressure on ourselves. Blame the players Brendan for following your instructions and doing what you say. I suppose your weired substitutions are the players fault to. Stop passing the buck and look at yourself ffs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMELcfc Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 1 minute ago, kingkisnorbo said: I mean COME ON. What more has to happen! Honestly I have no idea, I have no idea how some people are still defending him… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oxfordfox83 Posted 13 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 13 February 2022 12 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: All valid points but I'm still Rodgers in. The cost of sacking him is a massive factor. I also strongly believe our injuries have been a major factor in our poor form. Yes he's made some poor decisions and yes we have a massive mentality issue. But in the long run I believe sacking him would be a HUGE mistake. For me it depends what people actually want and what would be in the long term best interests of the club. Of course I want to enjoy watching my team again and I want us to win. But I also want us to succeed in the long term and I strongly believe Rodgers is doing that right now. We've got an incredible generation of youngsters on the brink of breaking through into the first team and Rodgers is a huge part of bringing that philosophy forward behind the scenes. We've also got a major overhaul planned for the summer with at least a couple of major players leaving. I understand everyone's frustration, and believe me I share it. But sacking him now risks disrupting EVERYTHING we're trying to do. So unless we're in actual trouble of being relegated, I'm still 100% Rodgers In. And I'm not sorry. Thanks-I appreciate the reply, and I understand your point of view. For me, to counter your points: Rodgers has had Soyuncu for three years and hasn’t made a defender of him. He’s negligently, full knowing what he was doing, broken Vardy, Justin, Evans, Ndidi (Little Wes wasn’t his fault tbf). He’s cruelly ruined Iheanacho’s confidence a second time, when he was flying. We have had open goal opportunities at Champions League qualification which he got us into contention for. He’s then implausibly thrown them away through repeated tactical naivety. No, tactical ineptitude. Major players leaving to further their ambitions is on him. I just don’t think bringing our great generation of youngsters into a team he’s managing, where he’s in charge of defensive drills, where he’s the one charged with building a winning mentality, can be good for them, because he’s had a year to coach corners and failed. He’s had a year to work on closing games out with a narrow lead, and he’s learned nothing. One of the arguments for keeping Puel was his knack for bringing youngsters through, and it wasn’t enough on its own to save him. Right now, Brendan is Puel without the transfers. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frany104 Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 3 minutes ago, lcfceaves said: What more do you need to see?! That is absolutely criminal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 (edited) Financially he has the club by the short and. He and his agents took us to the cleaners. He virtually said pay this or I'm off (to Arsenal?) We did and in truth the vast majority on here were desperate for us to do that. I would never give any manager more than a two year contract , the money wasted by paying off failing managers is ridiculous. Edited 13 February 2022 by An Sionnach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lako42 Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 28 minutes ago, Apollo said: Sorry Good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 3 minutes ago, Christoph said: Sums us up. Generally yes but we kept West Ham at arm’s length for most of the game. Today wasn’t that bad defensively but unfortunately even when generally we defend well we have so many weaknesses that we are always liable to concede 1 or 2 if the opposition have their shooting boots on. The most disappointing and sadly least surprising thing about today is that we’re just seeing the same issues on repeat: 1) the late move to 3 at the back seems to happen every time we’re leading and every time it invites pressure 2) The set piece defending just cannot be fixed by this coaching staff 3) We are so predictable defensively that West Ham scored with a long hoof over the top for the 3rd time in 4 games against us: this should be happening 3 times every 40 games not 3 times in 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 2 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: It would be a spectacularly bad decision from the club if there was not a clause in that contract that enabled us to sack him without paying him up in full. Levy notoriously has had them in Mourinho and Nuno’s contracts so you’d like to think that there’s something there that, with us in the bottom half, would allow us to pull the trigger without a full pay off. I’ve been wondering if there might be a clause where we can let him go at half the cost if we’re not in the top half. I know Moyes’ compensation at Man United was much lower if they missed out on CL so they sacked him when qualifying was mathematically impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Shire Fox Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 (edited) Tactically appalling. 2-1 up and cruising so he tries to get clever with the tactical change and gets the usual outcome. Really want to like him but **** me does he make it hard for himself. Really do not trust him with a rebuild with his track record of signing shit Edited 13 February 2022 by South Shire Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 1 hour ago, lcfceaves said: Rules are rules Hit half in the red area though so surely that's handball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 23 minutes ago, Max Power said: What is the logic behind the sub? We are under bombardment and need an ariel presence to deal with it?? Rodgers has always done this, all it used to do was encourage opposition onto us but he used to get away with it, that luck has ran out now. We almost lost the FA Cup final bringing Morgan on to disrupt things, incredibly lucky that VAR saved us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMELcfc Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 1 minute ago, An Sionnach said: Financially he has the club by the short and. He and his agents took us to the cleaners. He virtually said pay this or I'm off (to Arsenal?) We did and in truth the vast majority on here were desperate for him to do that. I would never give any manager more than a two year contract , the money wasted by paying off failing managers is ridiculous. You won’t believe me but I was in the minority (probably proof on here somewhere) who wanted him to go, as we’d gone from Puel ball to Rodgers ball. It was good to watch for a couple of months but I could see it slowly going towards possession just for the sake of it. I am not convinced (or like) coaches who think before you can score, you must get the centre backs to pass it to each other 10 times before you can go forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMELcfc Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 1 minute ago, dmayne7 said: Hit half in the red area though so surely that's handball? By that logic, half was in the green, so it’s ok 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 6 minutes ago, foxile5 said: Post match interview didn't even acknowledge the issues or manner of the loss. Would love to know why there wasn't any acknowledgement. I think I know why 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 Just now, Yes said: I think I know why I'd love to hear your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christoph Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ttfn said: Generally yes but we kept West Ham at arm’s length for most of the game. Today wasn’t that bad defensively but unfortunately even when generally we defend well we have so many weaknesses that we are always liable to concede 1 or 2 if the opposition have their shooting boots on. The most disappointing and sadly least surprising thing about today is that we’re just seeing the same issues on repeat: 1) the late move to 3 at the back seems to happen every time we’re leading and every time it invites pressure 2) The set piece defending just cannot be fixed by this coaching staff 3) We are so predictable defensively that West Ham scored with a long hoof over the top for the 3rd time in 4 games against us: this should be happening 3 times every 40 games not 3 times in 4. We were bad defensively because we conceded from a corner YET AGAIN. I shouldn't be hiding behind my hands every time we concede a corner...every game were more or less guaranteed to concede minimum one goal. Edited 13 February 2022 by Christoph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 Wow, did I just read that someone thinks that Rodgers being here long term is a good thing? He's basically using Puel's squad after 3 years. His ego comes ahead of everything. This is not the type of man who will build a long term legacy. Keeping him past this summer seriously risk setting the club back many years. We've already got plenty of bang average players with 2/3 years left on their contract and no use to us. That will only increase the more time Rodgers has to shape the squad. I can't handle much more FT tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Year Of The Fox Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 Let’s be honest. It’s a great point in our relegation battle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixtiesFox Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 Change of coach worked wonders for our ladies. Just saying. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winsum Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 Rodgers calling out the fans again Here is a tip ditch the terrible tip tippy football and go forward The crowd got behind them when they had a go Otherwise Brendan button it or better still ship out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox in the sox Posted 13 February 2022 Share Posted 13 February 2022 7 minutes ago, Christoph said: We were bad defensively because we conceded from a corner YET AGAIN. I shouldn't be hiding behind my hands every time we concede a corner...every game were more or less guaranteed to concede minimum one goal. We have also got the 6th best attack in the country. I’m sure without all the defensive injuries we would have done much better defensively, don’t forget we were down to 2 fit defenders and we have had at least 4 injured for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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