Brendan Rodgers

[Foxxed]

What is the holdup?

There’s more back room staff in Brendan’s team than fans who want him to stay.

 

There’s now a non-insignificant number of players who are doing their best to leave Brendan’s team as soon as possible.

 

There’s Ben Nelson who’s joined a league two team in crisis who can count his lucky stars he’s not here.

 

The Leicester player who’s making the most progress is our third choice defensive midfielder playing a league below us.

There’s hardly a pundit or a casual football follower who doesn’t know our manager is a dead man walking and the team’s in crisis.

 

Anyone who’s watched us in the last year  has painfully seen the obvious and clear degradation of the football.

 

The excuses given last season, the injuries and the player form, are now so clearly not the problem that mentioning them now can be seen as nothing more than satire.

There’s a fairly reasonable argument that even if we do make a transfer that Brendan will either make a bad decision or poorly manage the newcomer.

The mood in the club, fanbase, the squad and the first team is so poor that waiting for a turnaround is increasingly risible.

 

Yet we still haven’t sacked him?

 

 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

2 hours ago, Sampson said:

Have to agree. A lot of fans blaming everything on the manager who has got a lot wrong and I think has come to the end of his cycle.

 

I’m not convinced we’re suddenly going to start challenging for the top 6 again as soon as a new manager comes in though. We clearly have issues much deeper than management level which some are burying their head in the sand over by trying to make out everything is Rodgers’ fault. A new manager really can’t come in and change how out of whack our wage bill is and how that it’s not the manager doing this negotiating.

Well, we are certainly not going to be challenging anywhere near the top 6 again under Rodgers. Not even matching last year's 8th.In fact, we all know it's going to be survival at the best this season under his management. As the losses mount up he will be got rid off, so why not do it now where at least a new manager will have a better crack of keeping us up ? A new manager would at least dump this silly possession Tippy Tappy going nowhere crap we are currently having to put up with.

 

In any case , say they stuck with him and he gets us relegated, do you think he will stick around trying to get us promoted again? No me neither.

Edited 25 August 2022 by PAPA LAZAROU

[ARM1968]

2 hours ago, wurmer said:

Isn't that 50% of the enjoyment of football?

 

You find football enjoyable currently?  Weird. It’s hideous. 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

1 hour ago, when_you're_smiling said:

They’ve their arms around each other apart from one who is touching his cock. What more do you want? 

What cock? Rodgers ain't even in the picture.

[Jakemoore]

1 hour ago, ARTY_FOX said:

We won't go down. The only way we go down is if they let brendan call the shots until we're done and dusted. As soon as a new bloke comes in we'll be decent again. 

I do tend to agree with that. 

[Guest ttfn]

3 hours ago, Sampson said:

Have to agree. A lot of fans blaming everything on the manager who has got a lot wrong and I think has come to the end of his cycle.

 

I’m not convinced we’re suddenly going to start challenging for the top 6 again as soon as a new manager comes in though. We clearly have issues much deeper than management level which some are burying their head in the sand over by trying to make out everything is Rodgers’ fault. A new manager really can’t come in and change how out of whack our wage bill is and how that it’s not the manager doing this negotiating.

I think this is spot on, the club’s problems are such that hitting back to back top 6 finishes will likely prove to be a one-off for a generation or more. We’ve made a number of poor decisions over the past 3 years which have led to this point.
 

But I do think that the stuff which is demonstrably Rodgers’ fault is the easiest fix. Fans are being “turned off” by the style of football and the failure to do the basics right. This is then compounded by the contempt Rodgers seems to show for the intelligence of our supporters. We could get on paper quite an uninspiring manager in and they would still give the whole club a huge boost just by being straight-talking and putting out a side that is more aggressive. Leeds under Marsch are a case in point - they had a great manager who had achieved a lot but was in a downward spiral (although that’s where the similarities end as Bielsa never tried to pretend up was down and black was white). Marsch faced a lot of scepticism coming in but he has won over the fans by being honest, treating the fans with respect and putting out teams who are up for the fight.

 

We won’t be making Europe again for a while but the longer Rodgers stays in charge the bigger the disconnect will be between the club and the fans.

Edited 25 August 2022 by ttfn

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

What is the holdup?

 

 

There’s now a non-insignificant number of players who are doing their best to leave Brendan’s team as soon as possible.

 

 

What?

Fofana? That's it.

 

Soumare should leave. Vestergaard should leave.

 

 

1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

There’s Ben Nelson who’s joined a league two team in crisis who can count his lucky stars he’s not here

 

The Leicester player who’s making the most progress is our third choice defensive midfielder playing a league below us.

 

Yet we still haven’t sacked him?

 

What?

 

He's going on loan to get some competitive football. There's probably a reason it's to a League Two side and probably nothing to do with Rodgers' shortcomings.

 

1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

The Leicester player who’s making the most progress is our third choice defensive midfielder playing a league below us.

What?

 

Maddison making no progress? 

 

Stating Choudhury is the one who's making most progress is bizarre.

 

I know Rodgers has a lot to hate about him but some of the reasons you've listed are quite far-fetched. 

[gazzaa2]

3 hours ago, AjcW said:

Whilst this was after 90 mins, and they're probably a bit tired, this photo sums it all up for me at the minute. Not one of them has an expression that says anything other than 'god this is shit'

 

If they're not enjoying their football, the absolute basic requirement to succeed, then we're screwed.

 

 

All teams become a reflection of their manager's personality which is why he fails after 2 years everywhere. Rodgers stands with the same vacant expression all game.

Edited 25 August 2022 by gazzaa2

[Craig]

1 hour ago, justfoxes said:

I can’t believe for a second game I. A row Rodgers has dropped Fofana now this time against those CNUTS Chelsea, FFS that lad is contacted to play for Leicester City he should play every game until we decide to sell him when he doesn’t play we shouldn’t pay him simple as Brendan is being far too nice to that petulant whinging little selfish Cockwomble I’m really losing faith in Rodgers he either shapes up or ships out !

 

 

 

 

I want Rodgers gone, but we're not going to play a player who will more than happily be a liability. We also have absolutely no idea if he has been fined or not.

[Matt]

“Those connections improve as the season goes on”

 

I’m sorry, we’re awful at chance creation, (we’re quite good at chance conversation) and have been for a good 2 years, I see no reason why this will be improved as the season goes on, your style will not change, certainly not improve as the season goes on.

 

Well some for blaming it on the players/team again though 

 

It might help if you allow them to be more positive, allow them to get into the final third, with speed, flexibility and not be so safe instead of going apeshit for not “controlling the game”. Have abit more of a positive approach.

 

 

[J. James]

3 hours ago, I am an Ostrich said:

O no looks like Dyche going to Stoke, now what we gonna do...

Errr..... get relegated?

[Gravel]

6 minutes ago, Matt said:

“Those connections improve as the season goes on”

 

I’m sorry, we’re awful at chance creation, (we’re quite good at chance conversation) and have been for a good 2 years, I see no reason why this will be improved as the season goes on, your style will not change, certainly not improve as the season goes on.

 

Well some for blaming it on the players/team again though 

 

It might help if you allow them to be more positive, allow them to get into the final third, with speed, flexibility and not be so safe instead of going apeshit for not “controlling the game”. Have abit more of a positive approach.

 

 

The "connections improve" is usual deluded Brendan speak. If we had made a bunch of new signings I would understand but as it stands, b@//@cks

[TheLittleBigMan]

3 hours ago, AjcW said:

I'd like them all to be holding each others cocks.

Maybe not cags. That would take two hands.

[StanSP]

16 minutes ago, Matt said:

“Those connections improve as the season goes on”

 

I’m sorry, we’re awful at chance creation, (we’re quite good at chance conversation) and have been for a good 2 years, I see no reason why this will be improved as the season goes on, your style will not change, certainly not improve as the season goes on.

 

Well some for blaming it on the players/team again though 

 

It might help if you allow them to be more positive, allow them to get into the final third, with speed, flexibility and not be so safe instead of going apeshit for not “controlling the game”. Have abit more of a positive approach.

 

 

Did you conveniently forget to quote the parts of the conference where he said he takes responsibility?

[JimmyC74]

3 hours ago, StanSP said:

Rodgers is handling the Fofana stance quite well I think. Fofana's attitude stinks, as we knew it did when he signed for us. Just expected more from him as opposed to angling for a move so soon. But I think Rodgers' ego is bruised and his defence mechanism as a result is to go out on the attack. He singles out Fofana even if he is asked about the transfer situation. And rightly so. No player is bigger than the club and there's certain ways to behave which Fofana isn't following. 

So this works in Rodgers's favour in how it's panning out. 

 

Interesting to see what happens if he doesn't end up moving this window. Will Fofana continue to be singled out? Clean slate and keep it friendly between then and January? 

At some point he would need to be reintegrated but given how things are playing out he is bound to get some serious flak.

 

if he can come through it and deliver some strong performances then he might be able to turn a percentage of fans around. I suspect we won’t get prime Wes again and think it’s best for us and him if we can off load him (assuming our terms are met) before the window closes.

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

The bad news or more so negative articles, comments whenever we speak about really starts to grate on you as a fan. How could we regress so badly and so quickly. It’s not only Brendan that needs to go.

[sacreblueits442]

7 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Seems a bit weird that we are choosing to hold onto players and subsequently further hinder progress based on valuations - if the only reason for no signings is the wages. Surely you’d cut losses on a mistake(s) rather than further compound the error by sticking by principles. There is a real case of mismanagement if that is the case. I’m now starting to get the feeling there is more to it.
 

Any other players apart from Tielemans and Fofana listed as wanting out ? 

...Soyuncu, Soumare,  and Praet now want to fight for a place and Mendy seems destined to be here as we need his skillset!!!

[Matt]

8 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Did you conveniently forget to quote the parts of the conference where he said he takes responsibility?

I should think he does.

 

But:

What is he going to do about it?

Why has it took so long to assess/take responsibility/speak about it? (Arguably a question to the media/media's fault for not pulling it up or asking the questions because they're constantly giving him a free ride - he's not going to speak about it off his own back and draw attention to it is he)

 

Ultimately it's took us to get to this point for it all to be discussed, what can give us any assurances anything going to change - it won't.

 

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...Soyuncu, Soumare,  and Praet now want to fight for a place and Mendy seems destined to be here as we need his skillset!!!

If the price is right, they go. Vestegaard used the old fight for his place but it was the £20k wage decrease really. I get that. 

[Matt]

1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

If the price is right, they go. Vestegaard used the old fight for his place but it was the £20k wage decrease really. I get that. 

Still a very good wage and alot more than I and I dare say pretty much anyone on this forum earns in arguably a year, that's one point but the not the point I want to make.

 

You've gotta question his desire and ambition, this is likely to be his last chance of playing in a world cup, he's been told he needs to be play regularly to be selected, he's not bothered about playing in the world cup then?

[Speedwell 🦊]

2 hours ago, justfoxes said:

I can’t believe for a second game I. A row Rodgers has dropped Fofana now this time against those CNUTS Chelsea, FFS that lad is contacted to play for Leicester City he should play every game until we decide to sell him when he doesn’t play we shouldn’t pay him simple as Brendan is being far too nice to that petulant whinging little selfish Cockwomble I’m really losing faith in Rodgers he either shapes up or ships out !

 

 

I couldn’t have put that better myself.

well done you

[He's_Magic]

Starting to feel familiar this... Can we call a vote of no confidence in our right honourable manager?

[StanSP]

21 minutes ago, Matt said:

I should think he does.

 

But:

What is he going to do about it?

Why has it took so long to assess/take responsibility/speak about it? (Arguably a question to the media/media's fault for not pulling it up or asking the questions because they're constantly giving him a free ride - he's not going to speak about it off his own back and draw attention to it is he)

 

Ultimately it's took us to get to this point for it all to be discussed, what can give us any assurances anything going to change - it won't.

 

He's made suggestions in the tweets you quoted

 

I don't have faith in him anymore, but he's not skirting or avoiding the questions.

[roblcfc84]

Just watched his press conference, seemed very down and a complete lack of energy. 

[Chelmofox]

4 minutes ago, roblcfc84 said:

Just watched his press conference, seemed very down and a complete lack of energy. 

I just wish he had a tiny bit of personality in there.