TJB-fox Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 2 hours ago, tetly said: If we get hammered tonight he should get the sack. We are in need of fresh ideas coaching and the mentality needs to change. He isn’t going anywhere. The run of form pre WC bought him as much time as he likes, if top wouldn’t sack him earlier in the season (pre run of form) then no chance he’s going now.
Ric Flair Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 16 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: We need around 7 wins from 22 games to say up if we can't do that we want shooting. The concern for me is without Maddison we struggle to score and create and even with Maddison we have only taken points off the utter dog shit in the league this season and that has to change. We have 1 point vs the top 10 so far this season which is disgusting. 2
reynard Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 24 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: We need around 7 wins from 22 games to say up if we can't do that we want shooting. Far from a certainty.
st albans fox Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 23 minutes ago, TJB-fox said: He isn’t going anywhere. The run of form pre WC bought him as much time as he likes, if top wouldn’t sack him earlier in the season (pre run of form) then no chance he’s going now. That may depend on availability of a replacement - but I agree that if he doesn’t say anything defamatory about the board then he won’t get sacked unless we are bottom three mid feb ….. im assuming that his comments about Jan incomings are with board approval
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Puel was hideous, its absolutely fascinating how time can put a nostalgic tint on a period of unpleasantness. Rodgers has a very poor track record in the transfer market and has worked with some appalling head of recruitment's but as a coach he is light years ahead of Claude Puel. Rodgers has outstayed his welcome here though and due to the power he's been given here will now leave the club in a worse state than he found it as the under performance under Puel was easier to fix than it will for the next man as financially the club have shit the bed. Haven't said anything to suggest Puels tenure footballing wise was good have I? Or he was fantastic tactically so not sure what you're disagreeing with me about there. On the pitch it was substantially worse than Rodgers, that's not even an argument to be had. But someone had to be the villain at some point with rebuilding that old squad, and even if it was Macia, Puel had to be the face of it and would have had to take the job knowing he'd likely get grief with the objective set out of moving players on. He did it hideously with a number though which I've already alluded to. Edited 30 December 2022 by Tommy Fresh
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nick said: If we are talking 'in all honesty', I think if the helicopter hadn't gone down he'd have been sacked after the 0-0 with West Ham. I didn't rate him at all and never bought in to the transition argument being honest. What I will say is that my passion for Puel going was probably as great as the hate many of the posters in this thread have for Rodgers... it's just that my hate was more rational in my mind... but I would say that, right! Like I've just said to Ric, the football was clearly a lot worse under Puel than Rodgers, and he was a bit of a cock with the way he treated some players. The squad Puel inherited to the one he left was a lot different, and he was clearly tasked with doing that. I'm not a huge Rodgers fan but I'd be fairly happy if he managed to prove the majority (including me) wrong. Edited 30 December 2022 by Tommy Fresh 1
Le Renard Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 (edited) I don't think people on here are getting nostalgic for the Puel era, but they can see that he cleared the dead wood and was a sort of fall guy, with Rodgers waiting in the wings. Puel in France had a good reputation for building good teams and giving the academy players a chance, and that is what we needed at that time. Puel along with Marcia should be given credit for creating an exciting team, which just need someone better to fit the pieces of jigsaw together. Rodgers although a better coach has not created, or refreshed a side that wasn't really his in the first place. Four years ago the job at Leicester was a good gig to get, but can we say that now? A new coach will think that it is a 2-3 year job to rebuild, before they can start to challenge towards the top 6/7/8 again. As fans we have seen this fall off happening slowly for the last 18-24 months and it is probably why a lot of our fan base has gradually turned on Rodgers, because they can see he's wasted the house that Puel/Marcia built. Edited 30 December 2022 by Le Renard 1
coolhandfox Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, reynard said: Far from a certainty. 38 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: The concern for me is without Maddison we struggle to score and create and even with Maddison we have only taken points off the utter dog shit in the league this season and that has to change. We have 1 point vs the top 10 so far this season which is disgusting. Which is why we need a decent January window. I also consider beating the bottom 10 is more important in our position Edited 30 December 2022 by coolhandfox
tetly Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 Does anyone know his premier league record with us? Games played wins draws and losses.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 8 minutes ago, tetly said: Does anyone know his premier league record with us? Games played wins draws and losses. https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/history/managers/?mid=69
coolhandfox Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, tetly said: Does anyone know his premier league record with us? Games played wins draws and losses. PL only Matches W D L Goals Points PPM 140 62 28 50 239:187 214 1.53 Just to give you a reference point Martin O'Neill record Matches W D L Goals Points PPM 152 53 45 54 192:196 204 1.34 Edited 30 December 2022 by coolhandfox
tetly Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 3 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: PL only Matches W D L Goals Points PPM 140 62 28 50 239:187 214 1.53 For compression Martin O'Neill Matches W D L Goals Points PPM 152 53 45 54 192:196 204 1.34 Thanks not as bad as I thought it would be.
Gerard Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 I can see BR resigning in the summer with a small pay off. Tielemans gone and Maddison sold he might want to jump so he can safeguard his reputation with the narrative of two 5th placed finishes and an FA Cup after being forced to sell his best players and not being backed. Trajectory says we're soon to become a side battling relegation, the only saleable assets at the club are Maddison and Barnes and if we lose up to 10 players in the summer we'll have to do a patch up job rather than quality that improves. If you look at the squad he inherited and the squad he will leave he's really dropped the baton. 2
Popular Post volpeazzurro Posted 30 December 2022 Popular Post Posted 30 December 2022 27 minutes ago, tetly said: Thanks not as bad as I thought it would be. No comparison between the quality of the squads they inherited and the subsequent amount of money invested though. O'Neil was a veritable pauper compared to Rodgers in that respect. Therefore Rodgers results in comparison are quite poor imo. 5
volpeazzurro Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 9 minutes ago, Gerard said: I can see BR resigning in the summer with a small pay off. Tielemans gone and Maddison sold he might want to jump so he can safeguard his reputation with the narrative of two 5th placed finishes and an FA Cup after being forced to sell his best players and not being backed. Trajectory says we're soon to become a side battling relegation, the only saleable assets at the club are Maddison and Barnes and if we lose up to 10 players in the summer we'll have to do a patch up job rather than quality that improves. If you look at the squad he inherited and the squad he will leave he's really dropped the baton. Spot on.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 I despise him because he's taken my passion away almost entirely. 4
coolhandfox Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: I despise him because he's taken my passion away almost entirely. Happens will all managers at some point, thing get stale. Sometime we just need a change to create some interest. 2
Tuna Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 Where is Brendan likely to go when he leaves Leicester? He won't be going back to Celtic, so called big 6 teams wouldn't be interested you'd think, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton have new managers. West Ham if they let Moyes go?
Dames Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 3 minutes ago, Tuna said: Where is Brendan likely to go when he leaves Leicester? He won't be going back to Celtic, so called big 6 teams wouldn't be interested you'd think, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton have new managers. West Ham if they let Moyes go? It would be a club like West Ham, Villa or Everton. Only clubs daft and desperate enough to pay what he’d be after. His reputation has taken a beating over the past 18 months and the big jobs are further away now than they were before he joined us. 1
Izzy Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 6 minutes ago, Tuna said: Where is Brendan likely to go when he leaves Leicester? He won't be going back to Celtic, so called big 6 teams wouldn't be interested you'd think, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton have new managers. West Ham if they let Moyes go? I think he might go abroad next. Somewhere like Spain to top up his tan would be my guess.
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 17 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Happens will all managers at some point, thing get stale. Sometime we just need a change to create some interest. I don't remember things ever going stale under Pearson even on a couple of horrific runs. Apart from with those who didn't like his demeanour regardless. 4
Mr Weller 2 Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 2 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: I don't remember things ever going stale under Pearson even on a couple of horrific runs. Apart from with those who didn't like his demeanour regardless. You may need to get checked out. 1
coolhandfox Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: I don't remember things ever going stale under Pearson even on a couple of horrific runs. Apart from with those who didn't like his demeanour regardless. Not as much, but I think had a lot of credit in the bank and we had been horrific for about 8 years before. I think exception level have gone up a few notches over the last 7-8 years. 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 Just now, Mr Weller 2 said: You may need to get checked out. You fall in the dislike regardless category then 2
Mr Weller 2 Posted 30 December 2022 Posted 30 December 2022 Managers never used to get sacked every 5 minutes and people still liked football.
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