Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

[lcfc_forever]

48 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Totally agreed with non selection today. 
 

His main asset is his engine. I have yet to see his ability to give a killer pass or get a good shot in (I think that will come). 
 

For us to be fielding a player because he gets up and down the pitch at 8th in the Championship is slightly concerning and a sign of where we are 

He was man of the match against Liverpool, both for his pressing and passing quality. He should have started today. 

[CosbehFox]

Just now, lcfc_forever said:

He was man of the match against Liverpool, both for his pressing and passing quality. He should have started today. 

His strength is in his pressing, his box to box work ethic as highlighted in that Liverpool result. He’s perfect for those sort of games. 
 

I’d like to think playing a midfield today who had two top flight appearances, we can go more attacking with full three internationals and get a result.

 

That we are increasingly reliant on a recent debutant is worrying. Particularly against the calibre of opposition

[lcfc_forever]

29 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

His strength is in his pressing, his box to box work ethic as highlighted in that Liverpool result. He’s perfect for those sort of games. 
 

I’d like to think playing a midfield today who had two top flight appearances, we can go more attacking with full three internationals and get a result.

 

That we are increasingly reliant on a recent debutant is worrying. Particularly against the calibre of opposition

Yep, in theory, they should have been good enough. 

 

Both the opposition today were physical and bullied us, and I think KDH would have dealt with it better. 

[Tom12345]

1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Totally agreed with non selection today. 
 

His main asset is his engine. I have yet to see his ability to give a killer pass or get a good shot in (I think that will come). 
 

For us to be fielding a player because he gets up and down the pitch at 8th in the Championship is slightly concerning and a sign of where we are 

Much better than Ndidi then.

[Tom12345]

2 hours ago, splinterdream said:

I hate that had had to come on when he did under those circumstances but you could see he'd make the pass and run and look to receive ball, it was so noticeable, I hope he becomes important for next season

Yes. This. With Ndidi - it is the opposite, he just slows down play and bring pressure to the team. For sure KDH would have been much better in place of and not next to Ndidi.

Edited 6 February 2022 by Tom12345

[UniFox21]

Unless injured, was absolutely stupid not to play him. 

[desertfox2]

9 hours ago, Cecchini1976 said:

Yes please compare them, can you tell me what they have both done in their careers? One year age difference and you thing the man that won us the cup is awful and should be replaced by a player who has done nothing 

Exacty. KDH has done nothing to show that he is any sort of replacement for Youri. He's a decent squad player at the moment but that's about it. I get that he's homegrown and we all love a player coming through to get behind, and also get that when we are playing badly the players not playing suddenly seem to be the solution, but frankly replacing Youri with KDH makes us worse, much worse. 

 

He may get much better but he's only a year younger than Youri and their careers so far are night and day in comparison.

Edited 7 February 2022 by desertfox2
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[honeybradger]

3 hours ago, desertfox2 said:

Exacty. KDH has done nothing to show that he is any sort of replacement for Youri. He's a decent squad player at the moment but that's about it. I get that he's homegrown and we all love a player coming through to get behind, and also get that when we are playing badly the players not playing suddenly seem to be the solution, but frankly replacing Youri with KDH makes us worse, much worse. 

 

He may get much better but he's only a year younger than Youri and their careers so far are night and day in comparison.

I think youre comparing KDH to Youri of last year, Tielemans has already moved on from us and since he is the centre of this side the rest of it has fallen apart around him.

 

A motivated KDH is better than an unmotivated Tielemans, if KDH had put in the performances that Tielemans has over the last 5 games, we would be saying he's not good enough to play for us, we're only giving Tielemans a pass because we've seen how good he can be. 

[damolcfc]

But it worked fine against Tottenham... we more or less did the right things... the last few mins is not worth discussing right now, the bigger picture was that the team worked hard and going the right way... the big boys come back and lose momentum 

I need to stop reading this forum today... or I'm going mad ... got few covid days off to relax.... 😆😆😆

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Impossible task coming on when he did yesterday but are we already seeing the raw ability and intensity being coached out of him? Following a similar path to others.

[Matt_Lcfc]

19 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Impossible task coming on when he did yesterday but are we already seeing the raw ability and intensity being coached out of him? Following a similar path to others.

Why do you keep saying this? He was one of the only players who provided some energy and tried to win the ball back.

[LCCFox96]

For me it's as simple as this - if we are being criticised for slower, lethargic performances without any aggression and bite then KDH has to play. This was Rodgers' biggest mistake yesterday. He'll be back in for the trip to Anfield.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

8 minutes ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

Why do you keep saying this? He was one of the only players who provided some energy and tried to win the ball back.

Because it's a pattern I'm worried he'll fall into. We need the intensity that he provides. 

[An Away Move]

KDH is the future. I want to see local born players who love the club playing for the shirt. The hunger is in built. Credit to Maddison for displaying the same after he had a period when his head went down (and becoming a new dad). 

[moore_94]

5 hours ago, desertfox2 said:

Exacty. KDH has done nothing to show that he is any sort of replacement for Youri. He's a decent squad player at the moment but that's about it. I get that he's homegrown and we all love a player coming through to get behind, and also get that when we are playing badly the players not playing suddenly seem to be the solution, but frankly replacing Youri with KDH makes us worse, much worse. 

 

He may get much better but he's only a year younger than Youri and their careers so far are night and day in comparison.

At this point in time we don’t want to be comparing careers though, we want to be comparing how they have recently performed and which one are we more likely to get a good performance out of

 

KDH on recent form has been able to string together consecutive good performances where as Youri recently has one really good game and then completely disappears in others

 

You want someone starting who can provide 5 good performances rather than 1 really good performance and 4 poor ones

[Matt_Lcfc]

12 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Because it's a pattern I'm worried he'll fall into. We need the intensity that he provides. 

I just think it’s more about the system that we are playing as opposed to coaching on an individual level. I do agree though, playing low intensity football with high energy players is so daft.

[phoneticerror]

On 09/05/2019 at 15:33, Jimmy said:

get him out on loan

What a difference a couple of years makes 😂

 

Cracking performance today. Real asset.

[Foxxed]

Interesting spelling. Let's add it to the list.

[lcfc sheff]

On 09/05/2019 at 21:01, lcfc sheff said:

He’ll surprise people, not the biggest guy so would obviously take him a big longer than some to be ready for professional football. 

 

Suppose we’ll have to see! 

One of the only times I’ve been right 😂

[walkerleeds]

1 minute ago, phoneticerror said:

What a difference a couple of years makes 😂

 

Cracking performance today. Real asset.

 

Convinced he'll be our captain after Kasper.

[HankMarvin]

good energy, wish the other players had the same intent 

[phoneticerror]

Just now, walkerleeds said:

 

Convinced he'll be our captain after Kasper.

I’ll be devastated if we sell him.

[phoneticerror]

Just now, HankMarvin said:

good energy, wish the other players had the same intent 

Too many jaded players at the minute. He’s got that enthusiasm and drive that we need. Just need some others to match it, otherwise he could be wasted with us careerwise. Very talented.

[frany104]

I think he’s a very similar player to John McGinn. Bundles of energy and always wanting the ball. He has to start every game for the rest of the season now. 

[filbertway]

This guy is tops, I still can't believe some people were writing him off when he first came in. He's got so many positive attributes. He reminds me of Kante a lot in that he's all over the pitch and always looking to make space for a pass. Obviously nowhere near as talented as Ngolo but he's never anonymous and always looking to impact the game where he can. I can forgive the odd misplaced pass or poor shot for everything else that he brings to the table. I could very well see him being a big part of our midfield for the next 10 years if he chooses so.