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Posted
5 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

1 in 5 chance of a heatwave that kills a bunch of people in any given year now.

 

They are mainly the over 65s so I suppose it's one way of tackling the ageing demographic problem

They're swigging scalding hot tea to speed up the process

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8 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

They're swigging scalding hot tea to speed up the process

 

Though counterintuitive, the science of sweat tells us that drinking hot beverages when in a hot environment will actually help you cool down.

 

We know what were doing, while the yunguns are swigging energy drinks that'll make them diabetic.:P

 

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

Though counterintuitive, the science of sweat tells us that drinking hot beverages when in a hot environment will actually help you cool down.

 

We know what were doing, while the yunguns are swigging energy drinks that'll make them diabetic.:P

 

 

Thats why they keep their coats on in a heatwave to keep even hotter which cools them down

Posted
29 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

It's going to get so hot it's rumoured a few pensioners might take their coats off

 

And not go to Morrisons.

 

Which will be remarkable.

Posted
27 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

It's going to get so hot it's rumoured a few pensioners might take their coats off

I've got to the stage where I still felt cold even in the supposed warm Spring. There've only been a couple of days where I've felt properly warm. Looking forward to this hot spell. Suspect I may have to try and retire to warmer climes. Given the heating bill in this country, it may not be too expensive an option.

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10 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

Though counterintuitive, the science of sweat tells us that drinking hot beverages when in a hot environment will actually help you cool down.

 

We know what were doing, while the yunguns are swigging energy drinks that'll make them diabetic.:P

 

 

I noticed during footy games on hot days players stopped tipping cold water on their heads now the physios bring out hot tea (in China cups) here lads i just boiled another, you'll be feeling cool and fresh in no time.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

Thats why they keep their coats on in a heatwave to keep even hotter which cools them down

lol

 

It's proven that if you drink a hot drink on a hot day, you will lose heat by sweating. If it's humid with little evaporation of sweat you won't.

Posted
13 minutes ago, SkidsFox said:

I've got to the stage where I still felt cold even in the supposed warm Spring. There've only been a couple of days where I've felt properly warm. Looking forward to this hot spell. Suspect I may have to try and retire to warmer climes. Given the heating bill in this country, it may not be too expensive an option.

Stick around for a while, and you might find the UK climate entirely agreeable to you. 

 

Whether that will actually be good for the future as a whole is clearly up to the beholder.

Posted
1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

Stick around for a while, and you might find the UK climate entirely agreeable to you. 

 

Whether that will actually be good for the future as a whole is clearly up to the beholder.

Cannot help but think this feels like ‘sticking boot in’. lol

Posted
6 minutes ago, Parafox said:

lol

 

It's proven that if you drink a hot drink on a hot day, you will lose heat by sweating. If it's humid with little evaporation of sweat you won't.

If that's the reasoning and the top tip surely they should run a marathon in winter coats

And afterwards feel cool and refreshed. Forget air con and iced drinks get the heating on

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Am surprised that there's no hosepipe ban.

It seems as if it hardly rains anymore.

 

It's forecasted to be 24 degrees at 09:00 tomorrow - surely this country hasn't seen this sort of thing before apart from the last few years or so?..

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8 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Am surprised that there's no hosepipe ban.

It seems as if it hardly rains anymore.

 

It's forecasted to be 24 degrees at 09:00 tomorrow - surely this country hasn't seen this sort of thing before apart from the last few years or so?..

1970s I think is the record for June, global warming eh 

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18 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

1970s I think is the record for June, global warming eh 

Record in one place and time? 1976, 35.6 degrees C.

 

Record for average across the month, which tends to have a greater impact? 2023, nearly a full degree Celsius hotter than 1976 - or almost all other years, come to that.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/czxwkgg41gno goes into more detail.

 

So yes, though it isn't hitting us in the UK that hard (yet), the change is being felt. 

 

Edit: for graphical representation...

 

_130256948_avg_june_temp_uk-nc-1.png

 

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20 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

1970s I think is the record for June, global warming eh 

1976

 

back in those days, you’d find an average one year in ten exceeding 30c in June 

we’ve managed it five out of the past six years 

 

but weather isn’t climate and last year we saw some sweltering June temps followed by only one hot week in the remainder of the summer.  Many wanting some sleep will be hoping for a repeat !

 

 

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56 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

If that's the reasoning and the top tip surely they should run a marathon in winter coats

And afterwards feel cool and refreshed. Forget air con and iced drinks get the heating on

 

No. It's about getting the body to cool down by sweating. Sweat evaporates and that causes cooling as long as the skin is largely uncovered.

 

So expect to see dozens of OAP's wandering around in pants and vests tomorrow.

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3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Record in one place and time? 1976, 35.6 degrees C.

 

Record for average across the month, which tends to have a greater impact? 2023, nearly a full degree Celsius hotter than 1976 - or almost all other years, come to that.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/czxwkgg41gno goes into more detail.

 

So yes, though it isn't hitting us in the UK that hard (yet), the change is being felt. 

 

Edit: for graphical representation...

 

_130256948_avg_june_temp_uk-nc-1.png

 

In 1976 the heatwave began on the first day of Wimbledon, which would be at the end of June so it wouldn't affect the average much.  What were the equivalent July figures?

Posted
11 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

1 in 5 chance of a heatwave that kills a bunch of people in any given year now.

 

They are mainly the over 65s so I suppose it's one way of tackling the ageing demographic problem

Warmer winters mean that fewer people die because of the cold, and the saving there outweighs the increased numbers who die of the heat in summer.  It's probably the same people, by and large, who have managed an extra 6 months on earth because of the warmer weather.

Posted
9 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Am surprised that there's no hosepipe ban.

It seems as if it hardly rains anymore.

 

It's forecasted to be 24 degrees at 09:00 tomorrow - surely this country hasn't seen this sort of thing before apart from the last few years or so?..

Minute you ban hosepipes, people's consumption increases as they either start worrying we're about to hit a drought or they just use the hosepipe anyway 

Posted
6 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

In 1976 the heatwave began on the first day of Wimbledon, which would be at the end of June so it wouldn't affect the average much.  What were the equivalent July figures?

18.3 degrees Celsius, apparently. 

 

Which, I should add, has been surpassed by three out of the last seven July's. 

 

6 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

Warmer winters mean that fewer people die because of the cold, and the saving there outweighs the increased numbers who die of the heat in summer.  It's probably the same people, by and large, who have managed an extra 6 months on earth because of the warmer weather.

Unfortunately, direct heat and cold are not the only factors that present a danger to life and society here. Added heat also brings additional direct stress through flooding when rain comes torrentially, and indirect when crop yields are much lower because of that same heat and flooding, to name but two other issues. 

 

NB. I would also posit that it's more difficult in general to defend against direct heat, rather than direct cold. 

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