Patson Daka

[Sol thewall Bamba]

4 minutes ago, promised land said:

Careful now, some FT posters won’t like that.

 

I totally agree though.

I get that certain styles will suit certain players but there's a basic level of ability you expect from a professional footballer, like kicking the ball, running with the ball without falling over etc. Whether we're playing a counter attack or possession based style has no impact on that one iota. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

The thing Daka was always signed as a raw talent with incredible potential. His numbers at his previous club had many interested. There was a lot of interest from Klopp and Liverpool. 

 

The problem with raw potential is the player has to be willing to adapt to circumstances and put the extra work in. Take Vardy - plenty of raw potential but let's not forget the work that man put in on numerous occasions to realise that potential. You dont go from giving away a last minute penalty in minus 5 against Middlesbrough to becoming a PL legend, without hard work. 

 

Daka on the other hand is already a legend in Zambia - the man cannot walk the streets without being mobbed. And for a player he is probably one of the best out of that part of Africa. Is the same drive there if every few months you are going back and being told you are up there with Drogba, Adebayor, Weah and Amokachi. Probably not. 

 

I have little sympathy with Daka in the same way I have little sympathy with a lot of other players in our current squad. Their predecessors showed them what hard work does. James, Drinkwater, Morgan, Simpson, Vardy, Mahrez, Barnes, KDH, Maddison, Fuchs, Kasper etc. They all came with raw talent - none of them were the finished article. In the case of Barnes and KDH, through the youth system - KDH a late developer but they work on improving. And as fans, you can see that - from what they when they all came in to what they were when they left. As a fan, you can love and respect that. 

 

Because of those players, you have guys like Daka on extortionate wages - he hasnt earnt one penny in his time here. Not one. He'll fall off a cliff now and feel sorry for himself. We have seen it before. But will he spend a couple of extra hours in the gym ? with the nutritionist ? on the training pitch working on shooting ? Of course he wont. 

 

We have a squad of assholes. Who believe its everyone elses fault. But wont look at those who followed them. That performance on Saturday - I dont care how much he ran around. Two real chances and he fluffed it again. I cant respect any of them. I hope they stumble over the line and then **** right off. 

[jammie82uk]

22 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

How does our style of play impact his ability to score a penalty

It don’t but nearly every player will miss a penalty in their career, 

22 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

hit the target with that header from 4 yards? He is just shit,

 

 

[Foxin_Mad]

21 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

How does our style of play impact his ability to score a penalty or hit the target with that header from 4 yards? He is just shit, always has been.

For quite a long period of time this club has created very few chances for any striker, we don’t get the ball into dangerous positions often enough. I don’t think the toss style of play helps our strikers at all, it’s clear his confidence is very low, when we do create the odd chance he’s more under pressure than ever to bury it, which probably makes it all worse.

 

I do agree largely someone on his money that the club has supposedly scouted should be better than he is but I’m not convinced many strikers would do well here at present.,

[Dmitry]

35 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

It don’t but nearly every player will miss a penalty in their career,

 

He took eight penalties in his professional career, and missed 3 of them. Draw your own conclusions.

[FoxKent_88]

23 hours ago, BKLFox said:

How my brain is coping with the chances yesterday.

Penalty - The Keeper did well to save it, he guessed the right way and anything other than putting it top bins he would have got to it because he guessed right. Had he dived the other way Daka wins the game for us.

Header - He was offside, so on target or not it wouldn’t count.

Good save but I thought Daka telegraphed where he was going to place the ball with his body shape in the run up and took any guess work out of it for the keeper. I swear you could have asked everyone in that away end who should take the pen and none of them would have picked PD.  

Edited 23 March by FoxKent_88

[LCFCCKEANO]

He should be starting over Ayew but should never be anywhere near penalties. Would like to see Mukasa given 30 up front if we get ahead against Wednesday or Preston and see if he can do a job there, especially with Ramsey due back

[The Guvnor]

20 hours ago, Lionator said:

Daka was not a bad player in the first season he was here. He was the perfect understudy for Vardy and Kel. He’s clearly got worse in this environment. And ultimately of course it’s up to him to improve but surely that comes with coaching? How is he supposed to improve on his own? Do kick ups on sileby park?

I’m sorry but if you are a professional footballer playing in the first and second tier leagues you should be able to control a ball, pass a ball, head a ball and if you’re a striker score a goal. You shouldn’t need coaching to do the basics FFS.

[RoboFox]

Why do people keep going on about confidence? 
 

“Confidence” would imply that he has the propensity to not be absolutely woeful at the very basics of football, whereas we haven’t seen evidence to the contrary in the entire time he’s been here bar a handful of games.

 

Has he been low on confidence for five whole ****ing years? When does “low on confidence” just become “not very good”?

 

Edited 23 March by RoboFox

[Gamble92]

2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The thing Daka was always signed as a raw talent with incredible potential. His numbers at his previous club had many interested. There was a lot of interest from Klopp and Liverpool. 

 

The problem with raw potential is the player has to be willing to adapt to circumstances and put the extra work in. Take Vardy - plenty of raw potential but let's not forget the work that man put in on numerous occasions to realise that potential. You dont go from giving away a last minute penalty in minus 5 against Middlesbrough to becoming a PL legend, without hard work. 

 

Daka on the other hand is already a legend in Zambia - the man cannot walk the streets without being mobbed. And for a player he is probably one of the best out of that part of Africa. Is the same drive there if every few months you are going back and being told you are up there with Drogba, Adebayor, Weah and Amokachi. Probably not. 

 

I have little sympathy with Daka in the same way I have little sympathy with a lot of other players in our current squad. Their predecessors showed them what hard work does. James, Drinkwater, Morgan, Simpson, Vardy, Mahrez, Barnes, KDH, Maddison, Fuchs, Kasper etc. They all came with raw talent - none of them were the finished article. In the case of Barnes and KDH, through the youth system - KDH a late developer but they work on improving. And as fans, you can see that - from what they when they all came in to what they were when they left. As a fan, you can love and respect that. 

 

Because of those players, you have guys like Daka on extortionate wages - he hasnt earnt one penny in his time here. Not one. He'll fall off a cliff now and feel sorry for himself. We have seen it before. But will he spend a couple of extra hours in the gym ? with the nutritionist ? on the training pitch working on shooting ? Of course he wont. 

 

We have a squad of assholes. Who believe its everyone elses fault. But wont look at those who followed them. That performance on Saturday - I dont care how much he ran around. Two real chances and he fluffed it again. I cant respect any of them. I hope they stumble over the line and then **** right off. 

Think you're right with this. 

 

The culture at our club has created this in a lot of our players. Daka was given 90k a week and basically told Vardy would be the main man. So to go from Zambia to having that much money to sit on a bench, I think he reached the part where he'd made it in life. 

 

Now suddenly we need him and this is the outcome. 

[CornwallFox]

3 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The thing Daka was always signed as a raw talent with incredible potential. His numbers at his previous club had many interested. There was a lot of interest from Klopp and Liverpool. 

 

The problem with raw potential is the player has to be willing to adapt to circumstances and put the extra work in. Take Vardy - plenty of raw potential but let's not forget the work that man put in on numerous occasions to realise that potential. You dont go from giving away a last minute penalty in minus 5 against Middlesbrough to becoming a PL legend, without hard work. 

 

Daka on the other hand is already a legend in Zambia - the man cannot walk the streets without being mobbed. And for a player he is probably one of the best out of that part of Africa. Is the same drive there if every few months you are going back and being told you are up there with Drogba, Adebayor, Weah and Amokachi. Probably not. 

 

I have little sympathy with Daka in the same way I have little sympathy with a lot of other players in our current squad. Their predecessors showed them what hard work does. James, Drinkwater, Morgan, Simpson, Vardy, Mahrez, Barnes, KDH, Maddison, Fuchs, Kasper etc. They all came with raw talent - none of them were the finished article. In the case of Barnes and KDH, through the youth system - KDH a late developer but they work on improving. And as fans, you can see that - from what they when they all came in to what they were when they left. As a fan, you can love and respect that. 

 

Because of those players, you have guys like Daka on extortionate wages - he hasnt earnt one penny in his time here. Not one. He'll fall off a cliff now and feel sorry for himself. We have seen it before. But will he spend a couple of extra hours in the gym ? with the nutritionist ? on the training pitch working on shooting ? Of course he wont. 

 

We have a squad of assholes. Who believe its everyone elses fault. But wont look at those who followed them. That performance on Saturday - I dont care how much he ran around. Two real chances and he fluffed it again. I cant respect any of them. I hope they stumble over the line and then **** right off. 

How on earth did Amokachi get on this list?

[Mickyblueeyes]

1 minute ago, CornwallFox said:

How on earth did Amokachi get on this list?

Daniel Amokachi is very highly regarded in Nigeria/African football. 

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Daniel Amokachi is very highly regarded in Nigeria/African football. 

Just remember him being awful at Everton. 

Not as bad as parson Daka, mind. 

[VLC86]

5 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The thing Daka was always signed as a raw talent with incredible potential. His numbers at his previous club had many interested. There was a lot of interest from Klopp and Liverpool. 

 

The problem with raw potential is the player has to be willing to adapt to circumstances and put the extra work in. Take Vardy - plenty of raw potential but let's not forget the work that man put in on numerous occasions to realise that potential. You dont go from giving away a last minute penalty in minus 5 against Middlesbrough to becoming a PL legend, without hard work. 

 

Daka on the other hand is already a legend in Zambia - the man cannot walk the streets without being mobbed. And for a player he is probably one of the best out of that part of Africa. Is the same drive there if every few months you are going back and being told you are up there with Drogba, Adebayor, Weah and Amokachi. Probably not. 

 

I have little sympathy with Daka in the same way I have little sympathy with a lot of other players in our current squad. Their predecessors showed them what hard work does. James, Drinkwater, Morgan, Simpson, Vardy, Mahrez, Barnes, KDH, Maddison, Fuchs, Kasper etc. They all came with raw talent - none of them were the finished article. In the case of Barnes and KDH, through the youth system - KDH a late developer but they work on improving. And as fans, you can see that - from what they when they all came in to what they were when they left. As a fan, you can love and respect that. 

 

Because of those players, you have guys like Daka on extortionate wages - he hasnt earnt one penny in his time here. Not one. He'll fall off a cliff now and feel sorry for himself. We have seen it before. But will he spend a couple of extra hours in the gym ? with the nutritionist ? on the training pitch working on shooting ? Of course he wont. 

 

We have a squad of assholes. Who believe its everyone elses fault. But wont look at those who followed them. That performance on Saturday - I dont care how much he ran around. Two real chances and he fluffed it again. I cant respect any of them. I hope they stumble over the line and then **** right off. 

Now I don’t necessarily disagree with anything you say, but I have heard that Daka was having his own 1/1 sessions to try to improve so I’m not sure if it’s desire, he’s just absolutely wank.

[David Hankey]

Daka is a striker who doesn't strike (very often).

[Mike Oxlong]

25 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Just remember him being awful at Everton. 

Not as bad as parson Daka, mind. 

Amen 🙏

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

Daka is nowhere near good enough but I've never disliked him personally - he tries. He doesn''t hide or shy away in games.

 

I've got a weird feeling he's going to score the goal that keeps us up...

[don_danbury]

he score goal next season

[Foxin_Mad]

30 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Daka is nowhere near good enough but I've never disliked him personally - he tries. He doesn''t hide or shy away in games.

 

I've got a weird feeling he's going to score the goal that keeps us up...

That might be a good ending, in off his arse against Blackburn. 

 

To be fair to Daka, hes not as hateful as Ayew. 

[Supergray22]

5 hours ago, LCFCCKEANO said:

He should be starting over Ayew but should never be anywhere near penalties. Would like to see Mukasa given 30 up front if we get ahead against Wednesday or Preston and see if he can do a job there, especially with Ramsey due back

Or james on penalties if he is on the pitch. I’d also be prepared to give Richards a go up too instead of Daka. It’s beyond tolerable now. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Worse goals in open play record than Matt Elliot apparently.

[bmt]

13 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Worse goals in open play record than Matt Elliot apparently.

Bagsman tbf

[Stadt]

18 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Worse goals in open play record than Matt Elliot apparently.

He doesn’t

[J.Lisemore]

Says it all when we’d all want Patson to start for the rest of the season, although we’re resigned to the fact it’s going to be a really painful watch at the same time. 

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

Daka's capable of awful mistakes; he's also capable of sublime skill.

He's not actually half as bad as some on here say. Like almost all our players, he could be perfectly ok in a really good team. Luke Thomas for example was perfectly ok in a really good team.

The trouble is we don't have any of the players who make a team really good, just the ones who could be carried by the good ones if we had them.

 

Basically what we have is a team of Danny Simpsons. But without even any Okazakis or Albrightons, let alone any Kantes, Mahrezes or Vardys...