Tifo Update

[grobyfox1990]

45 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Because tifo displays are supporter culture Bert. So heavily deep rooted in it with years of history.

 

If you spend hours of your own time and money to create a display it has soul and meaning, thats something brilliant. 
If you hold up something some marketing executive has signed off and has been printed in China rather than by hand in South Norwood by your own it’s non de script.

As well as usually crap in compared to the fans work.

Good point excellently made but the Surrey fanboys don’t help themselves with their ridiculous language. ‘Shocked’ ‘grass roots supporter led’ ‘soulless efforts we laugh at’ ‘the palace way’ ‘OUR culture’

 

they aren’t hustlers from the barrios of Buenos Aries fighting for survival and the identity of their area. They’re a bunch of Nigel’s who work in HR at an SME in Surrey led by a bloke who is a spurs fan 

[SemperEadem]

16 minutes ago, Bert said:

Yeah I get it all. I really actually genuinely get it. But you’ve brushed over my point. Sometimes these groups just don’t help themselves. 

I answered why they would ‘not like’ backing someone else's idea. The someone else being the clubs suits rather than supporter work. 

 

What I would say is obviously I don’t know the ins and outs at Palace. But it does look like the club are working against us line they have recently said, is maybe bs. Especially when they’ve had free reign to do as they want for 15 years, got the move they wanted and pyro home and away whilst advertising it’s them doing it with no consequence.

 

 

Edited 13 April 2022 by SemperEadem

[SemperEadem]

5 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Good point excellently made but the Surrey fanboys don’t help themselves with their ridiculous language. ‘Shocked’ ‘grass roots supporter led’ ‘soulless efforts we laugh at’ ‘the palace way’ ‘OUR culture’

 

they aren’t hustlers from the barrios of Buenos Aries fighting for survival and the identity of their area. They’re a bunch of Nigel’s who work in HR at an SME in Surrey led by a bloke who is a spurs fan 

Yeah agree, that Palace way line raised a chuckle. 
Do enjoy HF bingo, full house at ‘South London Spirit’ or ‘this mentality can’t be stopped’.

 

However you have to doff your hat at how they 1 create a very good home atmosphere and 2 get all sorts of guff thrown their way by fans of others clubs but have really stuck at it.

Edited 13 April 2022 by SemperEadem

[grobyfox1990]

Also let’s be fair this tifo will probably only have been ‘let’s go palace guys woohooo!!’ Nothing like the ‘let slip the dogs of war’ one pre Sevilla at the kp

[Unabomber]

The real tragedy to come out of this is the derogatory use of the name Nigel. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

They're sanctimonious bellends but fair play to them taking their club on again, they did the same the last time at Wembley and got their fans to ignore the FA agency display and got their own one on instead.

 

Those banners at Wembley are the dullest example of the commercialisation of football support/culture going. Wembley just go "what's the most inoffensive slogan your middle management marketing team can come up with that we can display for 5 minutes in a cynical attempt to emulate genuine supporter culture" 

 

"We are Derby" and "Full Force".

[Voll Blau]

2 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Also let’s be fair this tifo will probably only have been ‘let’s go palace guys woohooo!!’ Nothing like the ‘let slip the dogs of war’ one pre Sevilla at the kp

 

Nah, more likely to be something about 'Mentality' to impress Eastern Europeans on the internet or a grandiose claim about South London inventing anything from wearing coats at football to dancing in nightclubs.

[ren]

8 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

 

Nah, more likely to be something about 'Mentality' to impress Eastern Europeans on the internet or a grandiose claim about South London inventing anything from wearing coats at football to dancing in nightclubs.

South London claims when most of them are from Surrey 

[Plastik Man]

13 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

HF at Palace fighting against club display.

*To be fair Wolfie was a Fulham Ultra! 

[Grebfromgrebland]

I'm with palace on this. I love a good tifo and can sometimes really set the mood for the game.

 

My favourite being the one for Seville possibly the best game at the king power and that tifo was part of the experience.

[SemperEadem]

Got to hand it to them, 9k is big money.

To put that into context at our place I reckon UFS could do about 11 full stand displays on that.

[coolhandfox]

7 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Got to hand it to them, 9k is big money.

To put that into context at our place I reckon UFS could do about 11 full stand displays on that.

Jesus what have they got planned? 

 

I'm looking forward to it now, even as a non Palace fan.

 

 

Edited 13 April 2022 by coolhandfox

[AKCJ]

What's the point in getting upset about a few banners the club have funded in the week before the biggest game your club has played in decades? Just seems daft to me, can't understand why someone would get so deeply upset about that sort of thing. Maybe i'm alone but I doubt I am

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Just now, AKCJ said:

What's the point in getting upset about a few banners the club have funded in the week before the biggest game your club has played in decades? Just seems daft to me, can't understand why someone would get so deeply upset about that sort of thing. Maybe i'm alone but I doubt I am

You're not alone 👍

[SemperEadem]

4 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Jesus what have they got planned? 

 

I'm looking forward to it now, even as a non Palace fan.

 

 

I would have thought for that kind of cash they would have been doing both tiers anyway.

 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

9 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

What's the point in getting upset about a few banners the club have funded in the week before the biggest game your club has played in decades? Just seems daft to me, can't understand why someone would get so deeply upset about that sort of thing. Maybe i'm alone but I doubt I am

 

8 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

You're not alone 👍

I guess some people would prefer fans of the actual club to do this kind of stuff, and some are happy for an Aberdeen fan to do it for them. Just opinions innit.

[AKCJ]

4 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Because tifo displays are supporter culture Bert. So heavily deep rooted in it with years of history.

Not in England they're not. Assuming you're talking about displays on a mass scale, of course people have always made their own flags or banners but nothing that would stretch over at least a hundred seats or so.

 

People just saw people in other countries doing them on the internet, thought they looked cool (which they do) and copied them.

 

Historically the only organised support that existed in Britain was a load of hooligans meeting up to beat the shit out of each other.

[SemperEadem]

1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

Not in England they're not. Assuming you're talking about displays on a mass scale, of course people have always made their own flags or banners but nothing that would stretch over at least a hundred seats or so.

 

People just saw people in other countries doing them on the internet, thought they looked cool (which they do) and copied them.

 

Historically the only organised support that existed in Britain was a load of hooligans meeting up to beat the shit out of each other.

Pretty much every club that does Tifo in this country had a group doing it prior to the club piggy backing them.

The essence still remains the same even if it is a relatively new movement in the UK. It is supporter culture and within that those who make or help fund them want that to be the case.

 

[AKCJ]

5 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Pretty much every club that does Tifo in this country had a group doing it prior to the club piggy backing them.

The essence still remains the same even if it is a relatively new movement in the UK. It is supporter culture and within that those who make or help fund them want that to be the case.

 

Sorry I wasn't clear.

 

I was disagreeing with -"So heavily deep rooted in it with years of history."

 

[volpeazzurro]

11 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Not in England they're not. Assuming you're talking about displays on a mass scale, of course people have always made their own flags or banners but nothing that would stretch over at least a hundred seats or so.

 

People just saw people in other countries doing them on the internet, thought they looked cool (which they do) and copied them.

 

Historically the only organised support that existed in Britain was a load of hooligans meeting up to beat the shit out of each other.

Or find reasons to just not quite make the meet up so they can look ard but not actually have a fight. If they wanted that, in the age of the mobile phone and social media, they could just arrange to meet up in some remote field a couple of hours before the game and anonymously kick ten bells out of each other  ... but they don't. 

[Voll Blau]

10 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Not in England they're not. Assuming you're talking about displays on a mass scale, of course people have always made their own flags or banners but nothing that would stretch over at least a hundred seats or so.

 

People just saw people in other countries doing them on the internet, thought they looked cool (which they do) and copied them.

 

Historically the only organised support that existed in Britain was a load of hooligans meeting up to beat the shit out of each other.

The timelines of Ultras/tifo groups starting up in the UK aren't actually that different from scenes emerging in many of other countries. You're talking turn of the century when things got cracking in a lot of places. Aberdeen formed a group in 1999 and then you've got groups in York (2004) and of course Palace the following year. The idea that it's been part of the culture elsewhere for decades compared to here isn't always the case, the difference is it just hasn't caught on here in the same way it has in say Germany.

[grobyfox1990]

51 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Jesus what have they got planned? 

 

I'm looking forward to it now, even as a non Palace fan.

 

 

All rumours of course but apparently the Nigel top boy and leader of the choir is a spurs fan who has cashed in bigtime on selling stickers, badges and other such tat to the spotty weirdos. If rumours are true maybe a lot of the 9k would be going to his PlayStation subscriptions 

[HEGGSY]

Not sure where else to post this but do any of the UFS lads want this flag for SK1?

 

Got it done during the great escape, just found it in storage while moving house.

[Spudulike]

Loved seeing all the flags up at the back of the South Stand. Looked like plenty of space up there on Sunday for quite a few more. 

[Fox92]

I'm not interested in tifo's really but I do love seeing smaller individual flags.

 

Looked great when they were all up at the back of SK1/SK2.