Tifo Update

[Vestan Pance]

There is a simple solution to the atmosphere problem. If everyone who sings and generally makes the atmosphere withdraws their services (which have been provided for free) for one or two games then the powers that be might stop taking you for granted.

Edited 16 September 2021 by Vestan Pance

[Bert]

43 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Can’t really openly say the ins and outs on here but it was not like this.

Fair enough. Here’s hoping for next time. 

[Munshi]

7 minutes ago, Vestan Pance said:

There is a simple solution to the atmosphere problem. If everyone who sings and generally makes the atmosphere withdraws their services (which have been provided for free) for one or two games then the powers that be might stop taking you for granted.

As long as they hear clappers banging for 90 minutes the club will be happy. 

[Phil Bowman]

I’m afraid ultimately it doesn’t matter whether something is organised or not, and if so then whether by UFS or the club or someone else, if not enough fans in the stadium are interested enough to make a bit of noise, then you ain’t gonna have much of an atmosphere.

[davieG]

Speaking from ignorance as I don't know the size but UFS needs to massively increase their membership and the area they take up in the Kop. Numbers gives you influence whether that ever reaches a point where the club listens is a big unknown.

 

It seems to me that the club are more interested in  the views of the "Official Supporters Club" and the Foxes Trust because to the club they carry more authority than UFS.

 

Hopefully numbers in an organised democratic, orderly UFS may just give UFS some authority to be seen to be speaking on behalf of a large proportion of the fans

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, ozleicester said:

The wonderful Mrs Oz said she was interested... what is on offer?

Never call a blind hand …… well not one as blind as that! 
 

if we’re going to have a more family/touristy ground then we need to vociferous to be in one area to create a decent atmosphere 

 

the club must recognise this or we will just end up as the Midlands version of the emirates …..

 

 

[lcfc278]

4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Never call a blind hand …… well not one as blind as that! 
 

if we’re going to have a more family/touristy ground then we need to vociferous to be in one area to create a decent atmosphere 

 

the club must recognise this or we will just end up as the Midlands version of the emirates …..

 

 

Bloody hell mate it's not that bad!

 

In all seriousness though, each season has its points where the atmosphere is a bit flat, as the games become more and more important the atmosphere will improve.

 

Also, I think the way the club sells tickets at the minute has a lot to do with the type of fan that's going. A lot of the old school general sale/last minute fans aren't really able to get to games unless they stump for a membership. Not true for tonight granted, so let's see how the atmosphere goes tonight before we go mad about it.

[SemperEadem]

1 hour ago, Vestan Pance said:

There is a simple solution to the atmosphere problem. If everyone who sings and generally makes the atmosphere withdraws their services (which have been provided for free) for one or two games then the powers that be might stop taking you for granted.

It’s an interesting thought certainly.

However it could play into their hands, the club recent attitude to UFS looks to one where they certainly would rather they stopped.

[Tommy G]

Cant we just make a big #FEARLESS banner?

 

Just a question without causing a meltdown, does a Tifo improve an atmosphere? Or is it something that is there to appease fans who want the european club culture, atmosphere etc or does it translate onto the pitch and motivate the players.

[sacreblueits442]

...the move from standing to all seating stadiums have dictated the  behaviour of our supporters!!!

 Watching the videos of other teams tifosi's and you cannot generate that energy or show by just sitting down. 

  We moved to all seaters for a reason, we see supporters standing up and being told to sit down when there is an exciting feature of play and some are going to have this need, to involve themselves physically, as it was something they did before.

  There probably are aspects the club could do better, in relation to the pre-match build up and the quality and choice of food available, but until we move back to non seated arena's, we will continue to disappointment a section of our support.

[SemperEadem]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

Cant we just make a big #FEARLESS banner?

 

Just a question without causing a meltdown, does a Tifo improve an atmosphere? Or is it something that is there to appease fans who want the european club culture, atmosphere etc or does it translate onto the pitch and motivate the players.

You only need to look at our results on the pitch with the amount of wins at games when there has been one.

[Unabomber]

15 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

You only need to look at our results on the pitch with the amount of wins at games when there has been one.

Yeah definitely this. It also sets the tone for the atmosphere at kick off. Wish there was one happening tonight it just adds to the whole experience for me. 

Edited 16 September 2021 by Unabomber

[Guest Lcfc82]

2 hours ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

I am one of those families at the stadium, and yeah, I don't want pissed up blokes singing and chanting; I don't mind the chanting and singing, but I seriously don't enjoy the walk home with elementary school children when a bunch of drunk fans are obviously looking for trouble.

 

I have enjoyed the tifos we have seen over the years, but if you can't separate the displays from loutish behaviour -- and I seriously don't see why you can't -- I can understand the club's trepidation. 

 

Complaining about families at the stadium, as if it's somehow destroying the game, isn't helpful.

I wasn’t complaining about family’s at the stadium, just pointing out that they are the club’s target audience. 
 

 

 

[goose2010]

11 minutes ago, Lcfc82 said:

I wasn’t complaining about family’s at the stadium, just pointing out that they are the club’s target audience. 
 

 

 

The ones that spend the money that's why. Your typical family will spend far more with the club that a fan that turns up at 3pm moans about the beer and food.

 

 A family will turn up with their kids kitted out in the new kit will buy food and drinks for a while before the game. My mate spend over £200 on two kits for his kids a couple of weeks ago. I can safely say in the last 10 years I haven't spent that in the club shop! 

 

If you were in charge of it where would you point your marketing at ? 

Edited 16 September 2021 by goose2010

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

Don't worry UFS, I've got you tonight!!!

 

[Guest Lcfc82]

22 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

The ones that spend the money that's why. Your typical family will spend far more with the club that a fan that turns up at 3pm moans about the beer and food.

 

 A family will turn up with their kids kitted out in the new kit will buy food and drinks for a while before the game. My mate spend over £200 on two kits for his kids a couple of weeks ago. I can safely say in the last 10 years I haven't spent that in the club shop! 

 

If you were in charge of it where would you point your marketing at ? 

Yeah I totally agree, I know why they do it

[Vestan Pance]

38 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

The ones that spend the money that's why. Your typical family will spend far more with the club that a fan that turns up at 3pm moans about the beer and food.

 

 A family will turn up with their kids kitted out in the new kit will buy food and drinks for a while before the game. My mate spend over £200 on two kits for his kids a couple of weeks ago. I can safely say in the last 10 years I haven't spent that in the club shop! 

I'd imagine an adult supporter would still be spending more over the course of a season than a child. Maybe a shirt per season, a pie and a beer each game and the large differential in the price of a season ticket.

Edited 16 September 2021 by Vestan Pance

[Stevosevic]

5 minutes ago, Vestan Pance said:

I'd imagine an adult supporter would still be spending more over the course of a season than a child. Maybe a shirt per season, a pie and a beer each game and the large differential in the price of a season ticket.

No chance. 

 

Most blokes who go that are there for the atmosphere stumble in 5 minutes before kick off. They dont buy programmes or replica shirts. They may buy a pint at HT but they know it's crap so probably not. 

 

It's the families who spend more time in the stadium on a match day, they get there early, buy food and drink, merchandise etc... That's the target. 

[Vestan Pance]

1 minute ago, Stevosevic said:

No chance. 

 

Most blokes who go that are there for the atmosphere stumble in 5 minutes before kick off. They dont buy programmes or replica shirts. They may buy a pint at HT but they know it's crap so probably not. 

 

It's the families who spend more time in the stadium on a match day, they get there early, buy food and drink, merchandise etc... That's the target. 

I said over of a season, taking into account the price of a season ticket. 

I do go partly for the atmosphere and help to create it, personally I've never stumbled into a football ground drunk or otherwise, that's just plain old stereotyping.

[OadbyBlue]

Attracting families/fans who spend a lot on merchandise and allowing fans interested in atmosphere to congregate together and support the team with their own displays don’t have to be exclusive of each other.
 

Both Man Utd and Liverpool probably have more day trippers than any other club in the country as a proportion of their stadium, yet they still have an end where they let vocal supporters stand and put on their own displays, wave flags etc, and these stands and the perceived “atmosphere” they create actually increase the allure of these clubs.

Edited 16 September 2021 by OadbyBlue

[goose2010]

14 minutes ago, Vestan Pance said:

I said over of a season, taking into account the price of a season ticket. 

I do go partly for the atmosphere and help to create it, personally I've never stumbled into a football ground drunk or otherwise, that's just plain old stereotyping.

Season tickets can't really be classed as a spend as obviously the adult is spending the money on the kids tickets, shirts etc.

 

But it's the kids they want to come back and pressure the parents to pay for the shirts, food, programs etc. The young fans are the future and a I imagine mass number of fans on here went with their parents and now taking their kids. 

 

I would class my self as a typical season ticket holder to be honest. Had my season ticket for 13 years, rarely miss a game. Have no children (currently) and enjoy going for the football. If the atmosphere is good then fine if it's not then ok. I'm there for the football at the end of the day.

 

I have a lot of respect for UFS as I love what they are trying and have offered to help in the past and they have helped me with sorting a trip over to Bochum. But at the end of the day if the club aren't interested then either they give up ( which I hope they don't) or they try a different way into the club. 

[goose2010]

18 minutes ago, OadbyBlue said:

Attracting families/fans who spend a lot on merchandise and allowing fans interested in atmosphere to congregate together and support the team with their own displays don’t have to be exclusive of each other.
 

Both Man Utd and Liverpool probably have more day trippers than any other club in the country as a proportion of their stadium, yet they still have an end where they let vocal supporters stand and put on their own displays, wave flags etc, and these stands and the perceived “atmosphere” they create actually increase the allure of these clubs.

There stadium's are also twice as big... But I totally agree.

[purpleronnie]

Like i said many times, there needs to be a dedicated end for fans of like mind, that's what happened at other clubs, it means moving season ticket holders etc...But the club will never do it as they want to control the atmosphere their way, a sanitised, happy clapper family atmosphere.  Just the way it is I'm afraid.

[goose2010]

1 minute ago, purpleronnie said:

Like i said many times, there needs to be a dedicated end for fans of like mind, that's what happened at other clubs, it means moving season ticket holders etc...But the club will never do it as they want to control the atmosphere their way, a sanitised, happy clapper family atmosphere.  Just the way it is I'm afraid.

The problem with that is I don't think there is that many now. I don't think you would fill the kop for instance. Maybe a block but a lot of them fans wouldn't want to be told where they have to sit. Like say if the club came out and said SK1 is now for anyone that wants to stand and sing and create a Euro style atmosphere I think some wouldn't get involved as they wouldn't like to be told to be there by the club. 

[purpleronnie]

2 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

The problem with that is I don't think there is that many now. I don't think you would fill the kop for instance. Maybe a block but a lot of them fans wouldn't want to be told where they have to sit. Like say if the club came out and said SK1 is now for anyone that wants to stand and sing and create a Euro style atmosphere I think some wouldn't get involved as they wouldn't like to be told to be there by the club. 

So they would rather sit somewhere else in silence?  Not sure I understand your point.