Our own fault

[DennisNedry]

-  Inexplicably start Maddison again, effectively playing with 10 men.

- Play shit for 60 minutes. Only start playing well when 2-0 down.

- Stupidly block their keeper in an offside position, not one but TWICE. Absolutely brain dead.

 

Yes the Brighton pen was bullshit, but overall we have ourselves to blame far more than the officials/VAR.

 

Long hard season ahead. 

[Clt1900]

Stop wrestling keepers. 

[StanSP]

Just now, DennisNedry said:

Stupidly block their keeper in an offside position, not one but TWICE. Absolutely brain dead

This isn't factually correct. The 2nd one Barnes definitely isn't in the eyeline of the ball or where Ndidi heads it from. It's more of a joke decision than the first one. 

[dmayne7]

Blocked the keeper? No chance. We got lucky against Norwich when they did it as Kasper wasn't getting there but the player was on top of him. Today, it just makes a mockery of the rules. The first one in particular, he's nowhere near him and not blocking his sight to the ball. VAR doesn't work.

[ParkerPen]

1 minute ago, Clt1900 said:

Stop wrestling keepers. 

this.

[An Away Move]

1 minute ago, Clt1900 said:

Stop wrestling keepers. 

Stop standing out of their eye line you mean. 

[StriderHiryu]

I disagree. First 60 minutes we were poor, no doubt about it. But we turned it around and deserved to win. We can be critical of the team selection, but when our midfielders can't make 10 yard passes to one another, you are always going to be in trouble.

 

For as much as Maddison is getting slated he was nowhere near the worst player in that first half.

[Tielemans63]

I disagree. We were poor but not sure how anyone can argue that VAR wasn't the major factor today.

 

As shit as we were, it took a joke penalty for them to lead. It's not like Kasper was making save after save.

[Paninistickers]

2 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

-  Inexplicably start Maddison again, effectively playing with 10 men.

- Play shit for 60 minutes. Only start playing well when 2-0 down.

- Stupidly block their keeper in an offside position, not one but TWICE. Absolutely brain dead.

 

Yes the Brighton pen was bullshit, but overall we have ourselves to blame far more than the officials/VAR.

 

Long hard season ahead. 

Nonsense. Bitter defeats can be the catalyst for teams stepping up through the gears. 

 

I thought it'd be an dreadful start to the season. Injuries and Rodgers' obsession  with fielding physically weak players. And it has been. 

 

I liked the angry, aggressive, stro ger City we saw in those last 39mins. Season starts Saturday.

[Aus Fox]

I love it when people feel the need to start a new thread to discuss the game, because their opinion is so much more important than anyone else’s.

[TMELcfc]

8 minutes ago, Clt1900 said:

Stop wrestling keepers. 

Yep you know the rules, we were saved by it at Norwich, so you know what will happen. The rules are rules, they’ve set a precedent, don’t give them a decision to make 

[Finnegan]

5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

This isn't factually correct. The 2nd one Barnes definitely isn't in the eyeline of the ball or where Ndidi heads it from. It's more of a joke decision than the first one. 

 

It isn't factually incorrect. I'm not looking for a fight, Stan, we're all gutted and the last thing I want to do is row with other Leicester fans. 

 

But you need to read the whole law, several lines under the point about a player's eye line is:

 

"making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball" 

 

Barnes is directly in the keeper's personal space, he has his arms on the keeper about a second before the ball comes to them and at the point it passes them he's occupying a space in the direction the keeper wants to move in to. 

 

He's obviously interfering. He's practically on top of the keeper. 

 

The law is subjectively written and entirely open to the ref's interpretation and today the interpretation clearly wasn't in our favour. 

 

The penalty incident is ridiculous, the first disallowed goal was immensely harsh, Barnes is far out of the way. But the second disallowed goal, we'd all be absolutely furious if that was given against us. 

[DennisNedry]

9 minutes ago, StanSP said:

This isn't factually correct. The 2nd one Barnes definitely isn't in the eyeline of the ball or where Ndidi heads it from. It's more of a joke decision than the first one. 

 

Why does he even need to be there, especially after the first decision?

[Deeg67]

3 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

I disagree. First 60 minutes we were poor, no doubt about it. But we turned it around and deserved to win. We can be critical of the team selection, but when our midfielders can't make 10 yard passes to one another, you are always going to be in trouble.

 

For as much as Maddison is getting slated he was nowhere near the worst player in that first half.

If that's the case it's only because Youri was slightly worse.  Maddison basically sat out while Tielemans was actively giving the ball away.  Fortunately he seemed to regain consciousness after we went two down and he got beaned by that free kick.

 

It's all well and good to say we were better in the last 30 minutes - we were.  And to blame the ref and VAR, and they certainly didn't do us any favors (the offisides were at least arguable - the Vestergaard pen was an atrocity).  But we certainly didn't "deserve to win".  We put ourselves in a terrible position by playing terrible football.  We forced ourselves to try and salvage something in the last half-hour and depend on VAR to save us. We got exactly what we deserved. 

[HybridFox]

10 minutes ago, Clt1900 said:

Stop wrestling keepers. 

 

[Lambert09]

8 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

Stop standing out of their eye line you mean. 

They may as well just change the rules to if anyone is offside when the ball is kicked it’s offside... because there was no interference in either goal at ALL!!!

[An Sionnach]

The lesson of the first six matches is we are nothing like as good as some think we are. We can still do well but we are going to have to fight for it. All those players who are not ready for that can step aside.

[CosbehFox]

6 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

 

Why does he even need to be there, especially after the first decision?

Attempting to stop a very tall goalkeeper coming out to collect. About half of the teams in the PL have a defender on the line hence it's not something you worry about 

[An Away Move]

9 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

It isn't factually incorrect. I'm not looking for a fight, Stan, we're all gutted and the last thing I want to do is row with other Leicester fans. 

 

But you need to read the whole law, several lines under the point about a player's eye line is:

 

"making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball" 

 

Barnes is directly in the keeper's personal space, he has his arms on the keeper about a second before the ball comes to them and at the point it passes them he's occupying a space in the direction the keeper wants to move in to. 

 

He's obviously interfering. He's practically on top of the keeper. 

 

The law is subjectively written and entirely open to the ref's interpretation and today the interpretation clearly wasn't in our favour. 

 

The penalty incident is ridiculous, the first disallowed goal was immensely harsh, Barnes is far out of the way. But the second disallowed goal, we'd all be absolutely furious if that was given against us. 

You must be joking. Barnes is literally moving away from the keeper for the second one disallowed. It was in no way interfering. It’s incomprehensible to me that anyone could see it otherwise. 

Edited 19 September 2021 by An Away Move

[LeeTheFox]

I’m usually first to give us **** when we deserve to lose a game but this time how anyone can’t see we’ve been absolutely done is beyond me, their pen was never a pen and both those goals or atleast one of them should of stood, still winds me up not seeing any passion from Brendan on the sideline 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[foxfanazer]

We end games with the team that should've started. No doubt Maddison will be in against Burnley again next week. We just don't learn 

[StriderHiryu]

4 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

If that's the case it's only because Youri was slightly worse.  Maddison basically sat out while Tielemans was actively giving the ball away.  Fortunately he seemed to regain consciousness after we went two down and he got beaned by that free kick.

 

It's all well and good to say we were better in the last 30 minutes - we were.  And to blame the ref and VAR, and they certainly didn't do us any favors (the offisides were at least arguable - the Vestergaard pen was an atrocity).  But we certainly didn't "deserve to win".  We put ourselves in a terrible position by playing terrible football.  We forced ourselves to try and salvage something in the last half-hour and depend on VAR to save us. We got exactly what we deserved. 

Re-read what you just wrote. If the Vestergaard penalty was an atrocity, and thus didn't deserve to stand, then the game ends 1-1. Overruling Lookman's goal was equally absurd.

 

Brighton played terrible football for the last 30 minutes can could not get out. They rode their luck hard today and they know it. In previous games against us they've never had the rub of the green, so this time they got it. That's football.

 

Our start to the season is definitely one for concern, but I think we played worse in the Norwich game than we did today, and worse in the second half versus Wolves. Rodgers set us up wrong initially, but did change it at half time, and that change almost worked. Vardy got beaten to a header against Wellbeck for their second goal, so that's down to an individual losing their duel. Wellbeck is taller than Vardy, but we aren't blessed with height through our entire team, only a few are over 6 foot.

 

We deserved a draw at minimum from that game. If Lookman's goal would have stood, I am convinced we'd have won it. They were hanging on for dear life by the end of that game.

[FrankieADZ]

tbf we did that against Man City too, a 5 mins spell before they score, we played it around the back to lose it what must have been 3 times and then one lead to their goal

[Matt]

• Camp infront of our own 18 yard box aimlessly passing sideways, backwards, putting ourselves in trouble and under pressure for no necessary reason whatsoever.

[Deeg67]

3 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Re-read what you just wrote. If the Vestergaard penalty was an atrocity, and thus didn't deserve to stand, then the game ends 1-1. Overruling Lookman's goal was equally absurd.

 

Brighton played terrible football for the last 30 minutes can could not get out. They rode their luck hard today and they know it. In previous games against us they've never had the rub of the green, so this time they got it. That's football.

 

Our start to the season is definitely one for concern, but I think we played worse in the Norwich game than we did today, and worse in the second half versus Wolves. Rodgers set us up wrong initially, but did change it at half time, and that change almost worked. Vardy got beaten to a header against Wellbeck for their second goal, so that's down to an individual losing their duel. Wellbeck is taller than Vardy, but we aren't blessed with height through our entire team, only a few are over 6 foot.

 

We deserved a draw at minimum from that game. If Lookman's goal would have stood, I am convinced we'd have won it. They were hanging on for dear life by the end of that game.

Whether the PK was a joke or not we were still terrible in the first half, and deserved to be losing.  Massively outshot and outworked just as we have been all season.  

 

I think the question should be why it took going 2-0 down for us to start playing like we gave a toss about the result.  Being set up terribly to start the game yet again had a lot to do with it, but there's a deeper problem here, clearly.

Edited 19 September 2021 by Deeg67