Stadium Expansion *APPROVED* Sept ‘22 - Details / Images Released on Planning Site

[LaCiudad]

On 26/04/2022 at 19:54, leicesterseddon said:

It is a “hybrid” application so yes - the expansion is linked to the rest of the project being approved. 
 

But the applications are different…

 

The expansion is a full application, meaning building work can begin once it is approved. 
 

The rest of the site is just an outline application - meaning the council would be agreeing in principle to the idea of the development, with detailed proposals presented further down the line. 
 

From my understanding, outline permission is often sought by developers who want to raise money for a project (because it gives potential investors more certainty it will actually get built) 

 

In terms of the delay…I have no idea. Presumably it’s on the council’s side but frankly who knows 

Any way of asking them?

[Claridge]

Hopefully Soulsby gets booted out and we get someone a bit more dynamic

 

[Footballwipe]

So there's been a delay and, without any evidence whatsoever it's definitely the council's fault and Soulsby, who doesn't even have a say in making the final decision, needs to be kicked.

 

The only thing less surprising than the kneejerk reaction are people who have, unsurprisingly, taken no time to educate themselves on how planning processes work. Bunch of morons.

[KFS]

1 minute ago, Footballwipe said:

So there's been a delay and, without any evidence whatsoever it's definitely the council's fault and Soulsby, who doesn't even have a say in making the final decision, needs to be kicked.

 

The only thing less surprising than the kneejerk reaction are people who have, unsurprisingly, taken no time to educate themselves on how planning processes work. Bunch of morons.

Why don’t you share your wisdom on it rather than calling people morons?

[iancognito]

15 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

So there's been a delay and, without any evidence whatsoever it's definitely the council's fault and Soulsby, who doesn't even have a say in making the final decision, needs to be kicked.

 

The only thing less surprising than the kneejerk reaction are people who have, unsurprisingly, taken no time to educate themselves on how planning processes work. Bunch of morons.

The self-appointed, elected leader of the City Council, who has personally intervened in several planning decisions and use of redundant land in the past couple of years alone, has no say in whether the city's football club - a money-spinner and global beacon for the city as a whole - will get to enhance the surroundings of it's home with an arena, hotel and hospitality venues to be built on disused land at virtually no cost to the council itself, for the use of voters, sorry residents, and visitors from miles around. If he doesn't have a say in that then his position is completely pointless. And given his previous form, this will be the first pie he hasn't dipped his fingers into if that's the case.

[Strokes]

15 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

So there's been a delay and, without any evidence whatsoever it's definitely the council's fault and Soulsby, who doesn't even have a say in making the final decision, needs to be kicked.

 

The only thing less surprising than the kneejerk reaction are people who have, unsurprisingly, taken no time to educate themselves on how planning processes work. Bunch of morons.

Hi Peter 

[UHDrive]

Anyone in the know have any news? 

 

Given the construction lead in times and preparation for ticket allocations it is going to be awfully tight for next season for whenever construction starts.

[Pita]

The way the council are dragging there feet I should think the project will be put back by at least a year. 

[Fox in the North]

1 hour ago, UHDrive said:

Anyone in the know have any news? 

 

Given the construction lead in times and preparation for ticket allocations it is going to be awfully tight for next season for whenever construction starts.

I haven’t seen anything at all in a while. Nothing on the portal has been updated.

[thesilverfox]

1 hour ago, Fox in the North said:

I haven’t seen anything at all in a while. Nothing on the portal has been updated.

I'm amazed none of the enabling works on the derelict land have even been started yet. Permission for that was granted in January.

 

Makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes

[filbertway]

I wonder if we're planning to delay a year to fund more transfers this summer.

[Chocolate Teapot]

1 minute ago, filbertway said:

I wonder if we're planning to delay a year to fund more transfers this summer.

This will just go as debt anyway in the short term but I imagine with the rising costs of building materials they're probably just biding their time.

[filbertway]

7 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

This will just go as debt anyway in the short term but I imagine with the rising costs of building materials they're probably just biding their time.

Didn't take you long to swoop in and end my hope

 

This sounds much more plausible.

[los dedos]

Leicester wanting to delay the project or not will having nothing to do with when the planners grant permission. 

The Mercury used to do reports on planning meetings at the council for various big projects.

I'm sure there used be a way you could find out when and what was decided.  But can't find it anywhere online .

[sacreblueits442]

44 minutes ago, filbertway said:

I wonder if we're planning to delay a year to fund more transfers this summer.

...Rodgers is going to have a massive war chest, if that is the case!!!

[sacreblueits442]

43 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

This will just go as debt anyway in the short term but I imagine with the rising costs of building materials they're probably just biding their time.

.....they are going to have to wait for some time for the materials and labour situation to be back pre pandemic levels!!!

The cost of this delay has probably added another 15 - 25% on to the initial budget, They might as well take the hit now, and continue with the plans. With the hotel delay, there is potential revenue not coming into the club.

[davieG]

2 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.....they are going to have to wait for some time for the materials and labour situation to be back pre pandemic levels!!!

The cost of this delay has probably added another 15 - 25% on to the initial budget, They might as well take the hit now, and continue with the plans. With the hotel delay, there is potential revenue not coming into the club.

There was never a timescale for the hotel other than the planning approval length just the stadium as they only applied for outline so I'm sure they've taken that into account.

[Frank Large's Black Book]

No idea if it's true but it's been said that shortages and high costs are here for quite some time as most materials will be heading east to rebuild Ukraine. 

 

Not to mention Polish builders.

[Spudulike]

A bit of a weird public comment uploaded today in support of the proposals. 

[MalletFox]

Nearly a month after the target decision date now.

 

I do wonder whether the Club are stalling as some have suggested and/or whether we might look to develop the detailed plans of the “non-football” structures to understand any efficiencies or cost savings that might be made through purchasing materials etc. 🤔

[Spudulike]

5 minutes ago, MalletFox said:

Nearly a month after the target decision date now.

 

I do wonder whether the Club are stalling as some have suggested and/or whether we might look to develop the detailed plans of the “non-football” structures to understand any efficiencies or cost savings that might be made through purchasing materials etc. 🤔

I suppose the club could stall the council planners from making a decision by not supplying information requested but that's likely to lead to a refusal. 

 

It's all a bit odd that we've not had any snippets of information or leaks as to what's actually going on. I'm sure that it can't just be left in abeyance as that would prompt the planners to request the club to withdraw the application until they are in a position to proceed. 

 

The planning portal is not much help and the club seems to have gone into radio silence. Perhaps they'll be an update in Top's end of season programme notes. 

 

Shame that we haven't got any local investigative journalists that could find out what, if anything, is happening. It's a very important development for our club and city and we deserve an update at least. 

[AmyLGK]

Hey - so is the issue that we should have had a planning decision by now (past the 8 week period) or something else? Just trying to catch up. 

[Spudulike]

2 minutes ago, AmyLGK said:

Hey - so is the issue that we should have had a planning decision by now (past the 8 week period) or something else? Just trying to catch up. 

The target date for decision has been missed twice now. The latest being 20th April. The club planned to start the work in Q1, again also obviously missed. 

 

I think it's the absence of information that is causing uncertainty. No one seems to know what's going on. 

[AmyLGK]

Just now, Spudulike said:

The target date for decision has been missed twice now. The latest being 20th April. The club planned to start the work in Q1, again also obviously missed. 

 

I think it's the absence of information that is causing uncertainty. No one seems to know what's going on. 

ah right - well, I know for a fact that many planning authorities are missing their target dates as they are still overwhelmed due to Covid.....still citing "unprecedented times" 

 

Some are ignoring the architects / technologists completely..... (they should issue a request for an extension)

 

It's a farce...! 

[kenny]

7 minutes ago, AmyLGK said:

ah right - well, I know for a fact that many planning authorities are missing their target dates as they are still overwhelmed due to Covid.....still citing "unprecedented times" 

 

Some are ignoring the architects / technologists completely..... (they should issue a request for an extension)

 

It's a farce...! 

Leicester is particularly behind at the moment.

 

The KP development forms part of the Leicester regeneration plan in all the councils media stuff, so it won't get rejected even if the planners have things they want to be changed.