FoxinNotts Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 With regards to Lookman, we should retain him to use him as competition for he left hand side, with Harvey Barnes. But we must sign a right sided attacker this Summer 3
coolhandfox Posted 24 January 2022 Posted 24 January 2022 (edited) Has a bit of Gray about him, typical winger who blows hot and cold. We need a quality RW winger to go with Barnes and Lookman snapping at their heels pushing them be on their game or lose their spot. Edited 24 January 2022 by coolhandfox 3
lcfc sheff Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 I can’t fathom why people don’t like him, we aren’t getting this Mahrez replacement. He’s been better than Barnes when on the left and actually tracks back very well? 3
An Sionnach Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 11 minutes ago, Kent-Fox said: Average player we can do better We certainly can. Top class wide man £50 million. We are not in that market. 1
lcfc_forever Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 5 hours ago, lcfc sheff said: I can’t fathom why people don’t like him, we aren’t getting this Mahrez replacement. He’s been better than Barnes when on the left and actually tracks back very well? This. When he's played in his preferred position of LW, or in a number 10 position he's been very good. The defensive side of his game is getting better too. 1
Clever Fox Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 He's a decent player who I feel can get better playing in a system where he knows what his job is in a system. He always gives of his best in every game and that's all you can ask from any player. Provided we move on most of the fringe players then I'd keep him in the squad. We still need a strong physical player who can play on the RW. though. 1
desertfox2 Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: We certainly can. Top class wide man £50 million. We are not in that market. He's available for 15m supposedly. The only problem is that he's a right footed LW and not a left footed RW. There has to be someone available that plays on the right side for a similar amount, especially as he is English so there is usually a premium. We just have to scout better we need a slightly better left footed Lookman RW equivalent. The chances of us finding Mahrez 2.0 are next to zero. You're right in that we aren't in the 50m market so we need a 15-20m pound player and our expectations need to reflect that. Hope we unearth a gem but accept the fact that we may just get an above average prem quality RW for that amount. Edited 25 January 2022 by desertfox2 RF 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 7 hours ago, desertfox2 said: He's available for 15m supposedly. The only problem is that he's a right footed LW and not a left footed RW. There has to be someone available that plays on the right side for a similar amount, especially as he is English so there is usually a premium. We just have to scout better we need a slightly better left footed Lookman RW equivalent. The chances of us finding Mahrez 2.0 are next to zero. You're right in that we aren't in the 50m market so we need a 15-20m pound player and our expectations need to reflect that. Hope we unearth a gem but accept the fact that we may just get an above average prem quality RW for that amount. .....unless we can pick up Berardi, then we will have to have a punt on a player from abroad for £20m+!!! Other teams have managed to unearth players, we must have stopped looking in the right places. 3
volpeazzurro Posted 25 January 2022 Posted 25 January 2022 7 hours ago, desertfox2 said: He's available for 15m supposedly. The only problem is that he's a right footed LW and not a left footed RW. There has to be someone available that plays on the right side for a similar amount, especially as he is English so there is usually a premium. We just have to scout better we need a slightly better left footed Lookman RW equivalent. The chances of us finding Mahrez 2.0 are next to zero. You're right in that we aren't in the 50m market so we need a 15-20m pound player and our expectations need to reflect that. Hope we unearth a gem but accept the fact that we may just get an above average prem quality RW for that amount. He's a limited squad player at best, 10m maximum. We need first teamers! 1
funkyrobot Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 Personally I wouldn’t’ve taken Lookman off last night. He’s been our best creative force alongside Maddison and yesterday in the first half he was forced to play in his least favourite attacking role. This was purely to fit a bang off-form Barnes into the only position he seems to be able to even contemplate on the left side. I thought he was getting some joy by the end of the 1st half and was contributing way more than Barnes. When we shifted to 3 at the back and swapped 2 creative players, Barnes and him for Nacho and Amartey we basically reduced the creativity in the team by 1 man. Lookman’s dribbling could’ve unlocked that deep packed defensive line. 2
scinnell Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 I would sign Lookman for 15 million in an ideal world. But if it is true about our limited finances, I would rather that money go to a RW. 2
An Sionnach Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 On 25/01/2022 at 21:21, volpeazzurro said: He's a limited squad player at best, 10m maximum. We need first teamers! As usual , what we need and what we can afford are miles apart. It will probably be a case of make do and mend. Next season will probably be a mid table scrap for us with the ever present danger of slipping into the relegation zone. We are too good for that but we are going to have to fight for every point. Its stand up and be counted time. 1
volpeazzurro Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 2 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: As usual , what we need and what we can afford are miles apart. It will probably be a case of make do and mend. Next season will probably be a mid table scrap for us with the ever present danger of slipping into the relegation zone. We are too good for that but we are going to have to fight for every point. Its stand up and be counted time. Absolutely and I'm not knocking Lookman in particular because he clearly gives of his best and, when he's been played on the left, arguably he's been putting in better performances than Barnes of late. I still believe we have quite a lot of talent in our current squad and 2 or 3 additions under a different manager would have us challenging the top 6 again.
Popular Post funkyrobot Posted 6 May 2022 Popular Post Posted 6 May 2022 14 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: Absolutely and I'm not knocking Lookman in particular because he clearly gives of his best and, when he's been played on the left, arguably he's been putting in better performances than Barnes of late. I still believe we have quite a lot of talent in our current squad and 2 or 3 additions under a different manager would have us challenging the top 6 again. He’s not just been better than Barnes of late, he’s been better than Barnes all season. Better stats, more consistent, more versatile, better at defending. If we are genuinely saying that Lookman isn't good enough then what does that say about Barnes? 5
funkyrobot Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 On 25/01/2022 at 21:21, volpeazzurro said: He's a limited squad player at best, 10m maximum. We need first teamers! Better than Barnes all season though 🤔 3
volpeazzurro Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 1 hour ago, funkyrobot said: He’s not just been better than Barnes of late, he’s been better than Barnes all season. Better stats, more consistent, more versatile, better at defending. If we are genuinely saying that Lookman isn't good enough then what does that say about Barnes? Whilst I agree, we have previously seen what Barnes is actually capable of. Coming back from a bad injury I'm just hoping it's a matter of time and confidence. It would be silly to right him off just yet I think.
volpeazzurro Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 1 hour ago, funkyrobot said: Better than Barnes all season though 🤔 Barnes needs time after a bad injury which may have affected his confidence also. A good pre-season should see a return to form I think.
sacreblueits442 Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, funkyrobot said: Personally I wouldn’t’ve taken Lookman off last night. He’s been our best creative force alongside Maddison and yesterday in the first half he was forced to play in his least favourite attacking role. This was purely to fit a bang off-form Barnes into the only position he seems to be able to even contemplate on the left side. I thought he was getting some joy by the end of the 1st half and was contributing way more than Barnes. When we shifted to 3 at the back and swapped 2 creative players, Barnes and him for Nacho and Amartey we basically reduced the creativity in the team by 1 man. Lookman’s dribbling could’ve unlocked that deep packed defensive line. .. we had begun to look more potent just before the end of the first half!!! It would have been a good option to keep him and Barnes on but with the substitution windows, we were always going to have to make a change at half time. It did not really improve our ability to cause them problems, and it went to a system which we rarely play, and choosing to adopt it in a European Semi final was a desperate move. Edited 6 May 2022 by sacreblueits442 Spelling error.
Lambert09 Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said: Barnes needs time after a bad injury which may have affected his confidence also. A good pre-season should see a return to form I think. what worries me, is that this will be the year we sign that elusive right winger... but the problem will switch to the left Personally ive seen enough to want this to happen. 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 3 hours ago, An Sionnach said: As usual , what we need and what we can afford are miles apart. It will probably be a case of make do and mend. Next season will probably be a mid table scrap for us with the ever present danger of slipping into the relegation zone. We are too good for that but we are going to have to fight for every point. Its stand up and be counted time. ...next season we do not have European football!!! One game a week will allow us to be at our best in every game. We will not be struggling next season, it is a season to become competitive once again, our only problem could be the influence of Rodgers at the wheel.
RowlattsFox Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 Inconsistent yes but between them Barnes/Lookman is good enough. Both can make impact from the bench when the other starts. If we don't sign Lookman, we'd have to sign someone else as competition for Barnes. We need two wingers as a priority. The right winger needs to be a big signing, but Lookman at £15m is fine for the other.
moore_94 Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 Happy to sign him as long as it doesn’t take away anything from our ability to sign a good right winger Good competition for Barnes and decent enough cover for the right wing 3
sacreblueits442 Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 20 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: what worries me, is that this will be the year we sign that elusive right winger... but the problem will switch to the left Personally ive seen enough to want this to happen. ...Barnes has become one dimensional, he needs to have a run at his Fullbacks!!! They just stay a good 6-8 yards off him and they cut off his options. He either pass back or inside or try to take them on down the line, but that is not where he wants to go, but the best option for the Fullback who now has him where he wants him. So long as the setup suits his style (defence gambles and gets too tight with him, or allows him a run at them) depends on the performance you are going to get from him.
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