Lambert09 Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...Barnes has become one dimensional, he needs to have a run at his Fullbacks!!! They just stay a good 6-8 yards off him and they cut off his options. He either pass back or inside or try to take them on down the line, but that is not where he wants to go, but the best option for the Fullback who now has him where he wants him. So long as the setup suits his style (defence gambles and gets too tight with him, or allows him a run at them) depends on the performance you are going to get from him. i hope i’m wrong on this, but typically… players that rely on pace get found out. As you said, currently he’s too one dimensional and he needs to be less predictable. There’s not a defender in the league that doesn’t know where he wants to go Thats why i like lookman, he can go inside or out. You never know if he’s looking to create or he’s going to go for goal. He also tackles well. Edited 6 May 2022 by Lambert09 3
westernpark Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 Definitely sign him. Good player for 12-15 million. If Barnes wasn’t here, I’d have thought he’d have got double figures for us this season, playing solely on the left. 3
tetly Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 He has probably been better than Barnes this season. I would take him for 15m. 2
RumbleFox Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 (edited) He’s pretty much guaranteed 15 goal involvements a season if given enough minutes. At the prices quoted that seems a no brainier and still only 24 so time to improve/sell on at a potential profit. We still need a proper starting RW of genuine top top quality but as an option on either side he’s very good to have around. Edited 6 May 2022 by RumbleFox 1
RumbleFox Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 I think folk forget he’s actually exactly the same age as Barnes. He got plenty of time still. 2
Ric Flair Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 4 hours ago, Lambert09 said: i hope i’m wrong on this, but typically… players that rely on pace get found out. As you said, currently he’s too one dimensional and he needs to be less predictable. There’s not a defender in the league that doesn’t know where he wants to go Thats why i like lookman, he can go inside or out. You never know if he’s looking to create or he’s going to go for goal. He also tackles well. It surprises me because one of Barnes biggest improvements is his left foot and going on the outside, almost half his goals and assists came from that very move last season and chunk this season, it ought to make the opposition even more wary of him and yet he's largely struggled bar a decent spell between Feb and April this year.
desertfox2 Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 Sign him up as competition between him and Barnes to start. For the money it just makes total sense. We need the Left Footed RW sorted too so at least we have threats down both sides. Vardy is nearing the end we need 3 forward players to all be a goal threat to Recreate the Legend when he finally calls it a day. Imagine having Barnes or Lookman running at you for 60-70 mins then just as you're getting a bit tired the other comes on fresh. Recreate that the other side and with Daka+ Nacho or a new CF through the middle and we are sorted in attack. Easier said than done I realize but Lookman solves a big piece of the puzzle played down his proper side.
Dusty Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 I don’t think he’s bad, but it feels like a lot of the signings we’ve made over the last few seasons. Decent squad player and back up, but doesn’t improve the starting 11. Feel like settling for lookman would be a bit of a mistake personally. I’d argue he’s been better than Barnes for a lot of the season, but would be an underwhelming signing. 1
surrifox Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 I think we can do better and an asking price over £10 mill should have us looking elsewhere . Him and Barnes were hopeless last night and offered no sort of threat at all . Mind you every team we play seem to have more threatening wide and forward players than we have 2
splinterdream Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 59 minutes ago, surrifox said: I think we can do better and an asking price over £10 mill should have us looking elsewhere . Him and Barnes were hopeless last night and offered no sort of threat at all . Mind you every team we play seem to have more threatening wide and forward players than we have I dont agree with this, for me lookman/ricardo was our most likely threat but we were under pressure there, lookman had to help ricardo out who barely got forward enough to link up with lookman, besides hes better on the left. Would you swap Barnes for Lookman atm because i know i would. 2
funkyrobot Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 10 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Whilst I agree, we have previously seen what Barnes is actually capable of. Coming back from a bad injury I'm just hoping it's a matter of time and confidence. It would be silly to right him off just yet I think. People are writing off Lookman despite the fact he’s been our best attacking player alongside Maddison and despite the fact he’s been played out of position for much of this season. 1
funkyrobot Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 1 hour ago, surrifox said: I think we can do better and an asking price over £10 mill should have us looking elsewhere . Him and Barnes were hopeless last night and offered no sort of threat at all . Mind you every team we play seem to have more threatening wide and forward players than we have 10m is nothing
volpeazzurro Posted 6 May 2022 Posted 6 May 2022 1 hour ago, funkyrobot said: People are writing off Lookman despite the fact he’s been our best attacking player alongside Maddison and despite the fact he’s been played out of position for much of this season. I don't think they're necessarily writing him off, but first and foremost, we need players in particular positions. There will only be a certain amount of funds and we have to prioritise.
sacreblueits442 Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 6 hours ago, desertfox2 said: Sign him up as competition between him and Barnes to start. For the money it just makes total sense. We need the Left Footed RW sorted too so at least we have threats down both sides. Vardy is nearing the end we need 3 forward players to all be a goal threat to Recreate the Legend when he finally calls it a day. Imagine having Barnes or Lookman running at you for 60-70 mins then just as you're getting a bit tired the other comes on fresh. Recreate that the other side and with Daka+ Nacho or a new CF through the middle and we are sorted in attack. Easier said than done I realize but Lookman solves a big piece of the puzzle played down his proper side. ...Lookman causes a big conundrum!!! With limited finances, we need to go for the First choice RW, purchasing Lookman takes away the funds for CB and Midfield. Taking him on a loan for next season with an obligation to buy would help no end. 2
An Sionnach Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 6 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...Lookman causes a big conundrum!!! With limited finances, we need to go for the First choice RW, purchasing Lookman takes away the funds for CB and Midfield. Taking him on a loan for next season with an obligation to buy would help no end. As I have said so many times, if you want a wide man with a proper CV and I don't mean a kid from a lower league who is likely to be nowhere near as good as Lookman, be prepared to pay really big money. Every available wide man of quality is scouted by dozens of teams. We are not going to find another Mahrez.
Collymore Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 £10m for a player that guarantees min 10 league goals a season? Unbelievable value. 3
sacreblueits442 Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 26 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: As I have said so many times, if you want a wide man with a proper CV and I don't mean a kid from a lower league who is likely to be nowhere near as good as Lookman, be prepared to pay really big money. Every available wide man of quality is scouted by dozens of teams. We are not going to find another Mahrez. ...not sure why Mahrez name keeps popping back up in conversations!!! We are looking to fill the position, and not trying to replicate the previous occupant. As I have said before Giovani or Tete would fit the role, £20m should cover it. Look at Raphina at Leeds, his price was under £20m, there are players out there with the skillset we need and you do not need a Kings ransom to acquire them. We are not going to be throwing silly money at players to bring them here, we do not have to, we scout far too well for that.
RumbleFox Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...not sure why Mahrez name keeps popping back up in conversations!!! We are looking to fill the position, and not trying to replicate the previous occupant. As I have said before Giovani or Tete would fit the role, £20m should cover it. Look at Raphina at Leeds, his price was under £20m, there are players out there with the skillset we need and you do not need a Kings ransom to acquire them. We are not going to be throwing silly money at players to bring them here, we do not have to, we scout far too well for that. …….by “another Mahrez” I’d assumed he just meant another player of real quality at such a low cost!!! Edited 7 May 2022 by RumbleFox
An Sionnach Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 2 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...not sure why Mahrez name keeps popping back up in conversations!!! We are looking to fill the position, and not trying to replicate the previous occupant. As I have said before Giovani or Tete would fit the role, £20m should cover it. Look at Raphina at Leeds, his price was under £20m, there are players out there with the skillset we need and you do not need a Kings ransom to acquire them. We are not going to be throwing silly money at players to bring them here, we do not have to, we scout far too well for that. We have had our successes but just as many disappointments and downright shockers , so no guarantees on that front.
Sampson Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 (edited) I don't get why so many want to sign him for £15mil "as a rotation option". Don't get me wrong, I think, as erratic as he is, he's had a pretty good season. But £15mil is a decent chunk of what we're going to be spending on a winger. That's first team player money. If he cost something like £5-£7mil, absolutely get him in. I guarantee if we're spending £15mil on Lookman, we're not signing another winger. I'd far rather us try and spend £25mil-£30mil on our usual 1 big signing every summer on the right-wing position. Edited 7 May 2022 by Sampson 3
Sampson Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 16 hours ago, funkyrobot said: 10m is nothing It isn't though. Anyone thinking we're going to go out and spend £70mil this summer is going to be bitterly disappointed. There's no way we're going to be spending £15mil on Lookman as a rotation option and then £25mil on another winger as a first choice for example, which so many on here seem to think we are.
notnow john Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 If we spend 15 mill on Lookman, we’ll be looking to bring a right winger on loan or a free. 1
An Sionnach Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sampson said: It isn't though. Anyone thinking we're going to go out and spend £70mil this summer is going to be bitterly disappointed. There's no way we're going to be spending £15mil on Lookman as a rotation option and then £25mil on another winger as a first choice for example, which so many on here seem to think we are. We could sell Barnes , Lookman is outperforming him. Harvey is still worth a lot of money and he and Rodgers seem to be on different wavelengths. That would allow us to compete for a right-sided wide man. Edited 7 May 2022 by An Sionnach
sacreblueits442 Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 57 minutes ago, notnow john said: If we spend 15 mill on Lookman, we’ll be looking to bring a right winger on loan or a free. ...absolutely, once again we would seek to omit the most glaring missing piece to our unbalanced team!!! After all this time, we really have not sought to resolve this. Ghezzal- we were told he was as slow as a turtle prior to coming here. Under - on loan, look like a difference in personalities as regards his relationship with Rodgers. The loan to us was for £3.15m, the subsequent loan to Marsielle £450k. Just what are we doing in this market. We brought in Diabate as well ( spotted by Puel's son), I am starting to believe that we haven't a clue what we are doing, when it comes to filling this position.
hackneyfox Posted 7 May 2022 Posted 7 May 2022 14 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...Lookman causes a big conundrum!!! With limited finances, we need to go for the First choice RW, purchasing Lookman takes away the funds for CB and Midfield. Taking him on a loan for next season with an obligation to buy would help no end. I'd sell Barnes and use the funds to buy a better first choice LW.
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