Wolves 2-1 LCFC - Post Match Thread

[foxes_rule1978]

5 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Wasn’t there also a handball at some point?

 

Couldn’t see it from where I was sat but I remember the players actually claiming for it

Yes it was close range though but seen them given 

[Phenom]

Kasper should have stopped that, regardless.

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I think it’s one of those debatable subjective decisions what happens but it proves what a waste of time VAR is because it’s highlighted a further consistency from what’s happened for us and against us this season. 
 

We only have to look how David Ellerey has completely fudged the rules and laws of football. IFAB were an organisation you never ever heard about for years. Now here we are every season there’s a new set of rules or a clarification released. Those handballs shouts we had yesterday (I didn’t think they were handballs) but if they had occurred in European competition, they’d been given as penalties. 
 

We had a decision last week come down to where a player sleeve was. I’d have been interested to see what happened if he was wearing long sleeves. Then VAR would have had no guide and I suspect they’d have gone handball. 

It seems to me, it allows now an extra off-field  Platform of Bias cheating, and incompetent unfair decision making...

Border lines...seem to always go to London clubs...Last week, turn it how you like, But that Handball all day long....

I bet City wouldnt of got it, if it was the other Way around...

 

VAR decisions could be & should be so simple...But cheats off-topic like in many sports, are trying to be too clever..

Cricket still ok...Rugby started well,Now trying to be too clever,But leave out the obvious Feeding at scrum... Offside rules in mauls & from scrums..Top

Too be fair Rugby has positively , addressed the dangerous moves, and too OTT  aggressive of Lazy or Bullying players..

 

it seem strange, But I want to Keep VAR, But Next season, & should be Stripped down,  & go back to the easy basics...

Just Keep to the obvious, and dont change the game just to appease VAR..

 

[sacreblueits442]

15 minutes ago, Corky said:

I think the goal was given because Jimenez was going away the ball rather than towards it. He clearly plays a part but, I don't know, I didn't get too annoyed about it. I don't think Schmeichel reaches it in any case.

....I do not think that is the point, whether intentional or not, he was obscuring the view of our keeper, therefore he is active!!!

You cannot judge the situation on a player moving towards the ball or not, that no longer comes into in this scenario.

 

[fuchsntf]

26 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I feel the "handball" from Ricardo shot was a dodgy call and the Wolves second goal was a player in an offside position which obscured Kasper's view. He reacted late, because he could not see the player taking the shot. VAR may have called it, but  he should have taken a look on the side. It should be compulsory for a referee to go to the viewer on the side.

Agree in the main,But these decisions have been taken out of Linesman & refs hands...

I believe most questionable descisions & Choice of ref viewing pitchside monitor should be automatic...

 

For me ( this is presently Not Todays rule)..All attacking players,in Front &  in line of & around the 6 yard Box should be automatically  called up for offside..

Another thing...So fans & TV are informed , in Stockley park, there should be a Button that Pops up on Stadium screen, saying VAR is looking at the issue/ or not

[AKCJ]

55 minutes ago, Corky said:

I think the goal was given because Jimenez was going away the ball rather than towards it. He clearly plays a part but, I don't know, I didn't get too annoyed about it. I don't think Schmeichel reaches it in any case.

Disagree there.

 

Think if you look at the slow motion shot you can see him lean to the left to try and see the ball around Jimenez which puts his weight to the left side meaning he can't stretch fully.

 

Personally think if Jimenez isn't there and he gets a clean view of the ball then he saves it relatively simply.

[Dan]

Sums up how much life VAR has sucked out of the game for me when I just can't bring myself to get involved in the tediousness of discussing key decisions. They will never achieve consistency.

[Sgt_Crapgame]

7 hours ago, gerblod said:

What I sense you mean is someone who can take a corner which results in a goal. The stats would reveal that corners and free kicks are woefully unproductive in terms of successful outcomes. Taller defenders/goalies, like many Prem teams have, mean even fewer goals. Look at the height difference between our squad and other teams. When we had Huth and Morgan (and Maguire) we got our fair share of headers. Tielemans, Maddison, KDH and Albrighton are all capable, but sometimes it's whose on the end of the cross.

Thought it was obvious what I meant! Someone who can put the ball in the right place from a dead ball situation and over the first defenders head! Good headers of the ball are not always giants!!!! 

[sacreblueits442]

4 hours ago, st albans fox said:

If he’d jumped out of the way of the ball as it went towards goal then it would have been disallowed - because he was running away from its path it’s not been chalked off.  I also think it makes a difference that a) the lino didn’t flag and b) kasper isn’t getting to it even if Jimenez isn’t there  and c) the var is atwell ….

...that should make no difference at all!!!

Jiminez was a shield, inadvertently or not, he motions to get out of the way of the shot, by running to his right, therefore accepting that he is in the line of the shot. The failure is with the VAR operators, they continue to confound us with their inconsistent rulings. 

[GeorgeTheFox]

59 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

Sums up how much life VAR has sucked out of the game for me when I just can't bring myself to get involved in the tediousness of discussing key decisions. They will never achieve consistency.

I'm really starting to feel like this too and I was an avid VAR defender. 

[whitwickfox]

7 hours ago, Gazza3 said:

Disagree

funny thought thats why they award 3pts to the side that scores most. At the end of the season you survive on the amount of points you win not how well you played 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

3 hours ago, Devonfox1884 said:

No chance I want goals like this being ruled out for offside, it’s clutching at straws.

 

The frustration for me, like many others, is the lack of consistency. If our goal at Brighton had stood, then fair play this one standing… but it didn’t, and so this shouldn’t have. 
 

Either give them both or give neither. 

Best league in the world, apart from the officiating 

[filbertway]

4 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

 

I did think they got away with one on that backpass.

 

Neither a pen in a million years though

 

[st albans fox]

19 minutes ago, filbertway said:

I did think they got away with one on that backpass.

 

Neither a pen in a million years though

 

Agree but Man City get both of them ….

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Sums up how much life VAR has sucked out of the game for me when I just can't bring myself to get involved in the tediousness of discussing key decisions. They will never achieve consistency.

 

1 hour ago, GeorgeTheFox said:

I'm really starting to feel like this too and I was an avid VAR defender. 

I don't even remember properly celebrating a goal lately, I'm always thinking VAR will rule it out.

[Guest Col city fan]

Can't agree with all this 'we were the better side' malarkey after yesterday's game

No we weren't

 

Football is ultimately about goals. Goals scored down one end, goals not conceded at the other

We gave away two goals, they took their chances well

When they went 2-1 up, they shut up shop (as Wolves do) and limited us to not much

We can play all the pretty football in the world but if we can't a. finish chances and b. stop them going in at our end, its' no good.

Wolves won, we lost, because they did those things better than we did

It's a point business, they got the points and we didn't. 

We now found ourselves in a semi-precarious position because we have one of the worst defences in the league and Daka is not a patch on Vardy

This will matter hugely if we keep slipping down the table

[Dames]

4 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Can't agree with all this 'we were the better side' malarkey after yesterday's game

No we weren't

 

Football is ultimately about goals. Goals scored down one end, goals not conceded at the other

We gave away two goals, they took their chances well

When they went 2-1 up, they shut up shop (as Wolves do) and limited us to not much

We can play all the pretty football in the world but if we can't a. finish chances and b. stop them going in at our end, its' no good.

Wolves won, we lost, because they did those things better than we did

It's a point business, they got the points and we didn't. 

We now found ourselves in a semi-precarious position because we have one of the worst defences in the league and Daka is not a patch on Vardy

This will matter hugely if we keep slipping down the table

I remember a lot of people on here mocking other fans from teams when we won the league because those fans claimed their teams played better than us because they had more possession. 
 

How times have changed..

[Guest Col city fan]

29 minutes ago, Dames said:

I remember a lot of people on here mocking other fans from teams when we won the league because those fans claimed their teams played better than us because they had more possession. 
 

How times have changed..

Indeed

[WigstonWanderer]

4 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Usually so , But I thought he had a Good game..

Yes I thought Pawson did OK or a change. The real issue is the inconsistency of VAR. He could be forgiven for not seeing any of the incidents that we are complaining about, but VAR should have flagged them.

Edited 21 February 2022 by WigstonWanderer

[fuchsntf]

38 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Yes I thought Pawson did OK or a change. The real issue is the inconsistency of VAR. He could be forgiven for not seeing any of the incidents that we are complaining about, but VAR should have flagged them.

And that inconsistency of the human fault, is what is frustrating the fans..

We have the technic,but just incompetent use & lack of simple common sense of what VAR offers.

And for many begs the question of bias at stockley park..Being too clever instead of deciphing it's what you see. 

We have 4-5 camaras on many angles..

Like in Rugby, there will be the odd issue and angles you just can't see.

But 80% you can...Like in Rugby give this information out, & let the Ref go to the monitor and let him be the judge.

Fans will accept mishaps,but not the lack of information...and not end decisions taken in a studio..Ref- & team must see & give last decision...

[EastAnglianFox]

Shite again...has he gone yet?

 

If not see you on Thursday when ya'll be fapping over us putting a few past a team that would be a steady addition to league 2.

[Ric Flair]

11 hours ago, Fazzer 7 said:

Having just watched the highlights on lcfc, we were hard done by tbf. Lazy defending by Ndidi and a reckless header across goal from Amartey cost us. Why didn’t he just head it out and concede the corner. 

Ndidi, Amartey and Iheanacho have been pretty abysmal since coming from AFCON.

[Fox1980]

4 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....I do not think that is the point, whether intentional or not, he was obscuring the view of our keeper, therefore he is active!!!

You cannot judge the situation on a player moving towards the ball or not, that no longer comes into in this scenario.

 

Why did they change it from u were active if u was in between the ball and both goalposts. That to me made sense and would be so much simpler to referee with VAR and the lines 

[st albans fox]

18 minutes ago, Fox1980 said:

Why did they change it from u were active if u was in between the ball and both goalposts. That to me made sense and would be so much simpler to referee with VAR and the lines 

There were bangers from outside the box that were being disallowed when players weren’t obstructing the keepers view of the shot at all but were offside between the posts ….

we want more goals in the game ….

 

 

 

[Gazza3]

4 hours ago, whitwickfox said:

funny thought thats why they award 3pts to the side that scores most. At the end of the season you survive on the amount of points you win not how well you played 

Just because a team wins it doesn't mean they played the best football. Did leicester play better than Liverpool when we won 1-0 recently. 1 shot on target that game . We won  but didn't play better than Liverpool .