Ely fox Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 2 hours ago, ronnup said: Everton reek of Championship They will buy their way out of trouble come January
KFS Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 6 minutes ago, JimJams said: Not sure why anyone would turn their nose up at him. He was excellent in the championship. Did pretty well in a struggling WBA side at prem level, then buggered off for a payday as many a footballer would. If he's available for decent money from our Pov then its a goer. When you answer your question in the first sentence
JimJams Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KFS said: When you answer your question in the first sentence You don't think his 11 goals and 6 assists in 33 premier league games is any good then? Righto. I'm also unsure why being excellent in the championship is a negative. Presumably we shouldn't have bothered with Maddison, nor West ham with Bowen. Edited 28 August 2022 by JimJams 2
KFS Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 Just now, JimJams said: You don't think his 11 goals and 6 assists in 33 premier league games is any good then? Righto. He’s a money grabber mate and not someone I want in my team while we fight off relegation. 1
JimJams Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 2 minutes ago, KFS said: He’s a money grabber mate and not someone I want in my team while we fight off relegation. He was sold to the only club that made an offer for him. At 80k a week. He's no more a money grabber than any other footballer. I'd guess if another Prem club offered that wage he'd have gone to them and likely wouldn't be labeled a money grabber. If you don't want him, fair enough. I just found (other peoples) reasoning that they seemingly don't rate him because he was good in the championship bizarre.
StanSP Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 Is this a smokescreen, for anyone, anyone at all ?! 2
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 7 minutes ago, KFS said: He’s a money grabber mate and not someone I want in my team while we fight off relegation. Of course he's a money grabber. Hardly makes him unique in the world of professional football though does it?
KFS Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: Of course he's a money grabber. Hardly makes him unique in the world of professional football though does it? If we’re buying good championship wingers, let’s get Josh Bowler. Something to prove vs someone who actively came out and said his Saudi move was nothing but money chasing. You think this team’s mentality needs another one of those? Edited 28 August 2022 by KFS 1
JimJams Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Is this a smokescreen, for anyone, anyone at all ?! There is a faint smell of succession planning for the departure of someone else in a future window. Given the positions Pereira plays. The optimists are thinking Perez...
CosbehFox Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 1 hour ago, trugerkem said: Choosing to go to Saudi Arabia aged 25 says all you need to know Except in 2008, his dad lost his job in Brazil and his family had absolute fcuk all for a bit. They moved to Portugal and had to rebuild a life. There’s a very legitimate reason a lot of Brazilians end up on ‘paydays’ because it’s an opportunity to secure their extended family for life from poverty 4
Bordersfox Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 5 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Except in 2008, his dad lost his job in Brazil and his family had absolute fcuk all for a bit. They moved to Portugal and had to rebuild a life. There’s a very legitimate reason a lot of Brazilians end up on ‘paydays’ because it’s an opportunity to secure their extended family for life from poverty Some actual useful information in a post rather than sweeping generalisations and cod pyschology. 1
Bordersfox Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 13 minutes ago, JimJams said: He was sold to the only club that made an offer for him. At 80k a week. He's no more a money grabber than any other footballer. I'd guess if another Prem club offered that wage he'd have gone to them and likely wouldn't be labeled a money grabber. If you don't want him, fair enough. I just found (other peoples) reasoning that they seemingly don't rate him because he was good in the championship bizarre. He was also good in the Prem as you've said. I don't have a photographic memory like so many in this forum seem to have but I do recall he was unplayable at times for WBA in the prem and looked an absolute handful. Think his work rate was good as well, single handedly dragging his team up the pitch at times.
Vindaloo FOX Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 1 minute ago, majaco said: Have we ever had a Brazilian? Never and we never will
Trelleh Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 2 minutes ago, majaco said: Have we ever had a Brazilian? No but I’ve heard it’s quite painful 2
Grebfromgrebland Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 Think we've had our eye on him for a few years
Jaspa Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 Looks decent, but can't wait til we get the new scout in. Most recent links have been Demiral & this Periera, it's like we're working from the little black book from 2 years ago. 1
splinterdream Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 Looks alright, can use both feet, probably better than Perez
Stadt Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 His West Brom stats were propped up by penalties. His non-penatly xG + xA was 0.33 per 90 - which is more Albrighton level than Barnes'.
FoxesWalk Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 (edited) He’s a decent-ish player but some pretty significant questions about his attitude and motivation. He’s gone to Saudi league after throwing his toys out of the pram, scored one goal all season and now wants out…. Edited 28 August 2022 by FoxesWalk
trugerkem Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 16 minutes ago, Stadt said: His West Brom stats were propped up by penalties. His non-penatly xG + xA was 0.33 per 90 - which is more Albrighton level than Barnes'. I have no idea what most of that even means …. But if he is as good as albrighton that means he is better than Perez …
JimJams Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 23 minutes ago, Stadt said: His West Brom stats were propped up by penalties. His non-penatly xG + xA was 0.33 per 90 - which is more Albrighton level than Barnes'. 4 of his 11 goals were penalties. So if for some reason they don't count he got 7 goals and 6 assists from Prem 33 games. Not massively dissimilar to Barnes in 20/21. Certainly a lot closer to Barnes than Albrighton and that's with dismissing penalties.
Ric Flair Posted 28 August 2022 Posted 28 August 2022 He's a very creative type of midfielder / winger and I could see the desire to bring a player like him in to play RW or in the 10 role. His set piece delivery is very very good too. I don't know why we didn't go for him properly last summer, we were linked but as per usual left sorting out a winger until the end of the window. Do the same every year. 1
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